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bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

My “I boy”? You’ll have to explain this conspiracy speak. I don’t speak Qnutjob.

McCarthy got a smack down as I understand it, losing control of the house completely to have this kindergarten revenge vote even taken, his expression shows it. He’s not going to last.

Big smack down. The hypocritical moronic liars say he lied…officially by 4 votes on party lines. They are open that this is pure retaliation for leading a investigation into Trump’s campaign and Russia, an investigation that uncovered an insane amount of previously unknown Russian interference in the 2016 election all to benefit Trump from social media trolling campaigns to actively hacking Trump’s opponents repeatedly and publishing the stolen data directly at his public request, numerous unreported financial ties to Russia through his campaign, meetings in person with Trump and Russians at his home (Trump tower) specifically to gain “dirt” on Clinton in some secret international information for favors trade, the campaign involvement in Russia/Wikileaks, Flynn’s illegal negotiations with Russia before Trump took office and his lies about those negotiations, and I forget how many convictions over these charges against high ranking administration officials. He takes it as a badge of honor.
There are no legal or financial consequences that come with a reprimand or censure, and it won’t negatively affect his electability one whit….it might help. Pretty much just like the big win against Hunter. A nothing burger.
Yes, he will probably lose some committee seats like Greene (actually reports say not, he keeps his seat and powers 😂). Nothing the house passes will pass the senate anyway, no huge loss.

Precedent set, be prepared to lose all committee seats in 25 when the right loses their last bit of power.…no whining. (I know you won’t be able to help it). Every Republican has misled the public and house, every Republican has violated ethics rules. They should all be censured. Turnabout is fair play.

For you


You must be proud your “team” has worked so hard to get this important legislation passed…no…I mean has uncovered this anti American plot in congress…no…I mean has struck a serious blow in their culture wars….no…I mean passed this silly infantile resolution that would be embarrassing from a first grade school government. They must have decided the President, country, and government are doing fine, no need to actually legislate anything. Time for playground fighting (Boebert and Greene didn’t get enough and started their own curse laden playground fight on the floor over who gets to try to impeach Biden next and who copied whose articles of impeachment). 😂

Ever heard the term “pyrrhic victory”?

bobknight33 said:

Your l boy gets smacked down.

Orlando Police Believe They’re Above The Law

newtboy says...

Yes, a sad truth.
That’s why I believe there are few to no “good cops”. The few that exist are usually run out of law enforcement the first time they report criminal cops. The examples of this are endless. Everything from nonstop harassment at work with the chiefs approval or even involvement to straight out murder by fellow officers.

I can’t blame rookie cops, but anyone in the system over a year has become part of it.

I believe every officer should go through psychological testing by reputable testers, not cop psychologists, and civil rights retraining every 5 years max. Edit: I also cannot for the life of me understand why body cameras can be turned off, they should be always on and disabling one should be a crime. Mostly I think qualified immunity needs to be abolished. It’s insane for taxpayers to pay for police misconduct while the perps get extra paid vacation time at most. I think being a cop should be a sentencing enhancement, doubling any sentence and enforcing a minimum prison time for any crime that carries possible prison time. Abusing authority is no small thing.

BSR said:

Edit

Now the good cop needs to worry about other bad cops.

TRUST

newtboy says...

The context isn’t missing. You just don’t like it.
He was bragging and defending himself against accusations that he wanted to invade Iran by showing the secret plans and saying "Well, with Milley -- uh, let me see that, I'll show you an example. He said that I wanted to attack Iran. Isn't that amazing? I have a big pile of papers, this thing just came up. Look. This was him. They presented me this -- this is off the record, but -- they presented me this. This was him. This was the Defense Department and him, We looked at some. This was him. This wasn't done by me, this was him. All sorts of stuff -- pages long, look. Wait a minute, let’s see here. I just found, isn’t that amazing? This totally wins my case, you know. Except it is like, highly confidential. Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this. This was done by the military and given to me."
This recording is from summer 2021 when Trump spoke to a team who was researching a book written by Mark Meadows and some of his own staff, none of which had clearance. This is the same document he said he could have declassified but didn’t, so it’s still top secret. Look!
The transcript is part of the now public indictment. You won’t hear about it on right wing propaganda outlets, because it’s all unthinkably treasonous.
The photos are also from that indictment, and some are reported to show party goers posing with the boxes full of stolen classified documents (faces blurred to protect the innocent party goers).

Pretty hilarious the insane convoluted theories you’re willing to accept without a shred of evidence just because some random guy on the internet said it was true once, but when presented with a sworn indictment containing direct audio tape and testimonial evidence of Trump sharing what he admitted were highly classified state secrets with random people with no security clearance and evidence he stored classified state secrets in ball rooms he rented out with them on stage complete with photos you need more context. 🤦‍♂️

Edit: Be honest with yourself if you can…we know the truth you don’t have to say it….if the charges were against Biden with the same evidence you would be screaming for the firing squad, wouldn’t you. (I would just insist on a trial first)


bobknight33 said:

Totally missing context.

That being said If he actually let the other look at the doc contents then that could be a big problem.

For now this is just shock headlines for gullible people, like newtboy

kir_mokum (Member Profile)

newtboy jokingly says...

?
Have I been tolerating it? I try to call it out every time…and it’s a full time job let me tell you.
Or am I not part of this community?
Huh?

(If you’re asking why he hasn’t been banned, I think it’s because he hasn’t egregiously broken sift rules just because he’s a racist bigoted provocateur and liar….at least not enough to boot him….yet. But that’s just, like, my opinion, man. I find him useful, he lets us know the insanity the right is currently spouting, giving us an opportunity to learn facts before engaging in debate….and it’s nice to have a willing idiot whipping boy around sometimes. 😂)

kir_mokum said:

it's funny that the westboro baptist church viewed as so outrageous and obviously stupid as to not even be worth mocking and now, over a decade later, bob is like "no, no, they have a point".

why does this community continue to tolerate this level of bigotry as if it was a disagreement over ice cream flavours?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

So government should just stop paying for previous spending? That somehow saves money? You MUST explain how you think that works.

Seriously…dumping $10 TRILLION from private accounts and TRILLIONS more from the treasury SAVES MONEY!?! EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS.

Making it more difficult and expensive to borrow money, harder to sell treasury bonds, and making all future debt payments much more expensive permanently SAVES MONEY?

How does it work when the right has stopped negotiating and gone home until Tuesday, so can’t even get the cuts they demand under any circumstances now?

Inflation is due to excessive government printing more money to spend instead of raising money…mainly under Trump.

If you like getting poorer by wasting tens of trillions of dollars for spite, causing major global depressions, death, and destruction, insanely high unemployment, never before seen levels of homelessness, market crashes, high interest rates, and national bankruptcy, be for MAGA and team.

Edit: New reporting indicates the newest Republican demand to release their hostage, the economy, is a $3.5 TRILLION tax cut for the rich and corporations. More proof they don’t care about debt or deficit, only wealth transfer to the rich as fast as possible.
If you like bankrupting the country and starting a depression by choices be for Trump and team.

bobknight33 said:

So Government should just spending there is not tomorrow.
This inflation id due to excessive government spending.

If you like getting poorer be for biden and team.

Debt Ceiling Talks Cancelled

newtboy says...

Gaetz just said on an interview with Semafor when talking about his fellow conservative’s position on the debt ceiling “negotiations”…

”They don’t feel like we should negotiate with our hostage.”

https://youtube.com/shorts/Hg7tYc_Qrhs?feature=share

More proof the debt ceiling crisis is 100% manufactured terroristic “holding the country hostage” to subvert democracy and rule from the minority or destroy the economy, and that the right has no intention of negotiating or compromising their insane position that the right may add 1/3 of all US debt in one term unfettered by any restraints but the left must be so miserly they abandon their own barely funded safety net programs … but not Republican waste and grift like unwanted military programs and other corporate welfare…and absolutely not increase revenue but cut it more or else.

America doesn’t negotiate with hostage taking terrorists. Even “negotiating” invites more of the same. Easy solution to this is…
1)Walk from the fake “negotiations”. 2)unilaterally abolish the debt ceiling by presidential order. 3) Crush Republicans in 24. 4) Legislate a solution and stop the stupidity.

How did 4 years of MAGA bring the US to this!?!

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

ROTFLMFAHS!!!😂

Oh you little egg sucker. I got a bitter pill for ya! - paraphrased from Greater Tuna

“This is all I found”….Oof….you really got me. Far righty media isn’t talking about their sweetheart’s blatant hypocrisy (nor her constant adulterous philandering while espousing “Christian family values”, repeatedly breaking her oath to god and her husband) so there must be no story, no hypocrisy. Derp. Even you aren’t that stupid, and that’s a really low bar friendo.

Explain how that’s any different from any drag show….try without making up nonsense like “all drag shows are about sex, this wasn’t”, neither was the drag show he was hyping. Neither are most drag shows. Some are literally Tupperware parties.

People who are really against something don’t happily indulge in and promote it on TV repeatedly. Most reporters didn’t report on Greater Tuna in drag, he did, by choice.

“Theater production”…of a drag show where two men play an entire town full of women, “Greater Tuna”, a Southern staple since the 80’s…I saw it in Texas by the original cast in about 83, I would have been 12-13….and it is an undeniable 100% comedy drag show. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Tuna
He was so excited and happy to promote it.

Did you watch it? How much he loved it, so full of glee, so happily advertising an old Southern drag show that Southerners actually revere, “I’m kicking the shoes off. I may keep the pantyhose on. It does feel kind of good, actually,” . He was in heaven.
What about the fact that he was so happily supporting a drag show on tv while in drag himself and cooing about how great it was? *nothing

What about the other videos of other times he was so happy being in drag. It wasn’t a one time thing. He’s a far right white Ru Paul. 😂

Hilarious brainless hypocrite. He repeatedly goes on broadcast tv into homes unannounced pushing the trans lifestyle and you see nothing….because he’s cheating with Manly Traitor Greene? I thought you hated public homosexual relationships. Not her first time cuckolding her “husband” either (but maybe the last, he filed for divorce over this one)…more “family values” from the right. Yeah….that changes everything and suddenly his multiple publicly broadcast drag performances are nothing but any other is “grooming”.

Such hypocritical insanity bob. You pretzel yourself into these impossible positions because you don’t really have a position besides “blue=bad, red=good. Period”. It’s so infantile and makes you a laughing stock.

4:09 since you need your nose rubbed in it again. Look how happy being in a dress and wig makes him every time!


There’s your confirmation, looks exceptionally proud on both videos too, beaming.

So I reiterate- Botched sex reassignment surgery victim Manly Traitor Greene and her newest adulterous tryst are now 100% pro drag show as long as it’s a Republican man in the dress and makeup. 😂

bobknight33 said:

Ok dumb dick

Show it
" boyfriend is a confirmed and proud drag queen."

This is all I found.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12111497/Marjorie-Taylor-Greene-blasts-morons-criticizing-boyfriend-Brian-Glenn-drag-video.html

dressed in drag for morning news in Dallas years ago reporting on an upcoming local theatre production.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Lol.

“Your”. “Says”

You know it’s true since Chris Licht took over, which was exactly when you started posting CNN videos with the caption “even CNN something something” as if it wasn’t common knowledge they tried to become a right wing outlet to capture Fox viewers, destroying any credibility they once had and tanking their ratings which you celebrated.

But of course you’ll pretend you don’t know that, just like you don’t know about the “southern strategy”. Just like you pretend you don’t know Ashley Babbitt is a catch 22 for you that completely destroys one or more narratives you hold sacred, which explains your absolute refusal to ever even acknowledge her existence anymore.

Only far right anti Biden outlets would host hour long free campaign commercial Trump softball “interview” events packed with only supporters and infomercial level questioning, and Trump only goes on far right outlets. Proof enough for those not blind that they’ve sold their soul.

If anyone cared to look, they pre-labeled upcoming hearings as “democrats attack whistleblowers” before the hearings even started….”whistleblowers” when talking about the disgraced paid activist actors/ex FBI agents that are 100% not whistleblowers by any definition of the term, which was clearly determined by the courts when they applied for whistleblower protection from being fired for insane violations of duty, clearances, and the law including stealing secret FBI data, refusing to serve warrants, lying to protect Jan 6 defendants, threatening other agents, refusing direct orders from superiors, etc. and who the courts clearly determined aren’t whistleblowers, but now far right CNN calls them “whistleblowers” anyway, bowing to the MAGA crowd’s factually incorrect nonsense once again. Sure sounds pretty far right to me….excuse me if I trust my proven ability to determine facts over your proven inability.

This proves once again that you are incapable of comprehending anything that doesn’t fit your narrative.
To be clear, you are only worth listening to because you expose the complete insanity MAGgots are telling each other annd which propaganda outlets they come from, offering an opportunity to investigate myself and learn facts to contradict their baseless claims and projection with. You are an unwitting tool for me. Without you I would be ignorant of so many MAGA crimes, lies, and schemes. Thanks.

bobknight33 said:

You text from below say it all.


CNN = Far Right Anti Biden


That is how fucking stupid you are.
That finally proves that you are not worth listening too.

Ukraine losing 500 troops daily in Bakhmut fight

newtboy says...


You stupid stupid man that roots for Russia and against democracy consistently. You think you can just repeat Russian propaganda, flatly deny reporting from any non Russian sources, and still convince someone you haven’t clearly taken sides, choosing Russia over democracy?

“Proven wrong”?!? ROTFLMFAHS!!! Please, if you think you can, explain exactly what I’ve said that’s been “proven wrong”. (Hint- Saying “Russia said so” actually proves me right). Be precise, not just generalizations…make sure you quote me, don’t intentionally incorrectly paraphrase what I said. I KNOW YOU WON’T EVEN TRY, you are just a dishonest coward whining.

Every legitimate source is reporting major advancements by Ukraine, retaking much of Bakhmut and the surrounding areas and establishing supply lines, Russian lines are falling, supply lines failing, and Russia is in a major retreat.
The only places you hear any hint Russia isn’t on the ropes is directly from Russia, no where else.
You get your pure Russian internet propaganda “news” from sources like “weeb nation” and other incels in mom’s basement and think it’s real?!? 😂 I guess you’ve forgotten how many times you repeated the Russian claims and claimed they had already taken Bakhmut, only to be proven wrong every time. You simply are incapable of learning, which must be why your English skills don’t exceed a poor 3rd grade student’s.

Even far right anti Biden CNN says this is only unverified Russian propaganda directly from repeated liar Prigozhin that has claimed to have taken Bakhmut more than a few times now (every time you buy it) and Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Maliar said Ukrainian troops were still “holding the defense” in a district on Bakhmut’s western-most edge.
“As of now, our defenders control certain industrial and infrastructure facilities in the area and the private sector,” she said.
I guess Prigozhin was lying about having taken the city, then about having no ammunition, about Wagner fleeing Bakhmut (on film), and about Russian regulars dropping their guns and fleeing the front lines just last week? But now he’s telling the truth….I see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEaqO_LVFUM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydUUFiV630k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fqjEnSM20k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZnWA20iqo4

Admittedly not the city captured then 🤦‍♂️, Likely not any actual Russian advancements, only a change by saying the Ukrainian held parts are “unimportant”…and it’s certainly not an unimportant piece of the city as Russia is suddenly changing their narrative to indicate, the opposing army having a well defended stronghold in “your” city is hardly unimportant. Ukrainian territory is not shrinking but expanding and displacing Russians.
Ukrainian capabilities have increased by multiple generations of weaponry in the last few months, now capable of shooting down even hypersonic missiles, aircraft deep in Russia, even of getting Russia to shoot its own aircraft and soldiers. Russian capabilities are near nil, no new weaponry to bring to the front, only 50+ year old mothballed WW2 equipment no one has training with.

Russians are fleeing Crimea because it’s so clear it’s likely to be retaken soon.

COVID’s not real, the economy won’t suffer, Trump won the election, Jan 6 was a coup by BLM, Russia is winning in Ukraine. Your list of insanity grows daily, fool. Keep spreading Russian propaganda, it helps us identify it.

I’m actually glad you say this, because your reporting of facts and prognostication are so diametrically opposed to reality that your assertion that Russia is winning is real evidence they are losing.

“Side bitch”? Lol. Because we agree on some things?!? Um…..ok. I think he’s going to take issue with being declared my “side bitch”, right @surfingyt? I definitely don’t think of him (I assume) as some subordinate…just a fellow sifter with a brain.
At least I don’t have to create sock puppet accounts to have someone agree with me like you. 🤦‍♂️

bobknight33 said:

Proven wrong again. This is getting too easy. Time and time again proven wrong. You and you side bitch @surfingyt
Not propaganda just facts.
You know when you seek not fake TV news and information you can actually learn. But that is too much for you. Stay in you narrow minded groove.

WAGNER CAPTURES BAKHMUT 20/05/23
Granted they could be pushed back.
This started 9 months ago and was a key hold for Ukraine and now , for the moment lost.
heck even cnn claims Bakhmut has fallen, except for a small unimportant piece. Also their narrative has shifted to that is Bakhmut is not an important territory.

Ukraine losing 500 troops daily in Bakhmut fight

newtboy says...

How do you never tire of being so idiotically wrong constantly? It’s actually impressive you can continue when literally everything you claim falls apart, often before you can even type it.

Russian front lines in Bakhmut have collapsed.
Russian flanks have retreated.
Russian armor is in retreating out of Bakhmut.
Ukraine is hitting Russian command centers in far East Ukraine with new longer range next gen missiles…they have hundreds of them now in country. These can reach Crimea and Russia proper, maybe even Moscow.
In one day recently two Mi-8 helicopters, one Su-34 and one Su-35 have been confirmed to have been downed near Klintsy, Bryansk, Russia. That’s 4 high value aircraft all covered by multiple levels of electronic missile jamming technology deep inside Russia shot down, indicating clearly Russian air defense cannot protect against the class of weapons just delivered to Ukraine.
The Ukrainian counter offensive hasn’t even begun and Russia is already on the run. I fully support Ukraine taking 100 miles into Russia as a buffer zone, exactly like Russia wanted to use Ukraine. I think it’s a good possibility and I fully support arming and funding Ukrainian expansion as far as they want to go. I’m not alone. Russia may be ending….at best it’s retreating to third world status as an international pariah with few allies and a looming civil war.

One more prognostication made by you quickly turned to shit.
Russia won’t stop….losing.
You know exactly how that feels.

BTW- #walkaway is real this time, but people are walking away from the toxic party of death debauchery dishonesty and destruction...the party of insanity inconsistency immorality and inability…the MAGA right. 😂

bobknight33 said:

Bakhmut is 85% captured by Russia and they won’t stop

surfingyt (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

He forgets…Republicans now say it’s only a lie if it’s under oath in court and is material to the case at hand. Any other lie they tell doesn’t count.
I think bob believes that makes them trustworthy.
This is not new. I think it was 2017 when Republican leadership announced they had no obligation to tell the truth to the media or American people…quickly distracted from and forgotten with Trump’s next inhuman act of evil (stealing Mexican children and deporting their parents to Panama) or his next stupid lie (sharpie drawn weather map to pretend his lie about what states were hit by a hurricane was true) or insane suggestion (inject bleach).

Trumpists, like all cultists, have completely handed over all thought processes to their leadership because they aren’t smart enough to create the insane convolutions it takes to make any sense of their actions. Found guilty?….doesn’t count, not everyone on the jury and in the court worships Trump so it’s biased. They are 100% certain of this….it’s the only thing that makes sense besides Trump is a sex abuser and liar.
Odd that doesn’t transfer over 1% when talking about Biden or Clinton…who actually ARE being “investigated” by people that have all repeatedly and vociferously voiced ignorant and hyper biased baseless opinions about them. It’s almost like they never actually thought about it, but are just regurgitating the pablum they’ve been fed.

surfingyt said:

perhaps this sums up people like bewb best...


Watch Elon Musk's Rocket Explode After Launch

newtboy says...

Sweet zombie Jebus…I just read WHY there was such catastrophic damage at the launch pad…NO FLAME TRENCH, NO WATER CURTAIN!!!
It seems Elon, on a guesstimate, decided the most powerful rocket ever built didn’t need any method of deflecting the thrust away from the plain concrete launch pad. He did plan to eventually try a huge steel plate under the rocket, but couldn’t get it done so just launched anyway with NOTHING.
NASA has been using both for over 50 years with success. A flame trench is a reinforced trench designed to redirect thrust horizontally away from ground infrastructure. A water curtain is exactly what it sounds like, a huge curtain of water dropped at ignition that absorbs the initial pressure/heat wave, also minimizing damage to ground infrastructure and lowering initial sound levels.

Why Elon decided he needed neither for the most powerful launch system ever is unfathomable. His launch pad is destroyed and this launch never even came close to 100% thrust. How many times does Elon have to totally screw the pooch as an engineer before they take his drafting table away? He’s playing with public money, somebody stop this insanely poorly implemented boondoggle please.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

ROTFLMFAHS!
The numbers are what they are. Sales down. Prices down. Profits down. Value down. Demand down. Monopoly gone.
Grows at 45%??? Only if you start from the years when it was worth absolutely nothing. Last year they lost over 51% of their value, in the last 18 months they lost even more than 60%, and every metric of future success is looking bad for them today.

A few years ago they had almost 100% of the ev market, with better options just now coming on the market they are already at 50% and are in a market share freefall.

Like I mentioned, Forbes economists all expect further TESLA stock decline, one expects it to reach $25 a share, but you know better. (If profits hold, I say $50 is realistic).

You again pretend you didn’t know that the big 3 spent tens of billions tooling up for ev production lowering their profits while Tesla has drastically slowed expansion (boosting profits) since they can already produce more than twice what they can sell and because their operating capitol has evaporated…and still their profits are shrinking like a shrinkydink in a volcano. 11% buddy. Down to 11% profit margin AND SHRINKING.

Are you saying Tesla stock hasn’t tanked?!? WTF?!? Really, I’ve got to hear this.

Lowered prices why? Because they can’t sell the cars they built. Duh. Also because the large government rebates are ending, making the cars COST more for customers without a price change. You blame covid (which you say isn’t real) but Covid isn’t hurting other manufacturers like Tesla.
I’ve seen plenty of F150 ev’s around…but still no Tesla truck. I see more ev’s on the road from every OTHER manufacturer daily, but the number of Teslas I see has plateaued. I’m in Cali, so I see plenty of ev’s.

Derp. I said clearly I called the TESLA STOCK crash. I told you it was insanely overvalued with a PE near 200. I did not say the stock market would crash, although I did expect a recession late 2020 possibly becoming a depression in 21…Biden’s leadership avoided that. 😂 Your damaged brain can’t stay on topic for two seconds. Jeebus.
The market isn’t tanking, my investments have done well for the last two years…unlike under Trump when I lost money….hand over fist in 2020. But I didn’t put every dime I had in one insanely overpriced inflated bubble stock like you claim you did….of course the economy looks shitty, your stupid investment strategy guaranteed you would lose your shirt.

Truth is, yet again, you can’t follow a short conversation without bending yourself in pretzels and changing subjects. That’s ok, I don’t write these for you. You aren’t capable of comprehension. That’s quite clear.

bobknight33 said:

Clearly you have shit for brains.
Tesla grows at 45%+ YoY
ICE manufacturers have been falling about 7% YoY in growth since late 2017.


You shit for brain takling points:
losing major market share -- ARE you on acid?

FACT they lowered prices 6 times -- thats true. -- Go find why.

FACT that now that they have competition,------ Where in your dreams.Ford GM VW ?? Not even close. by what measure are you using? The bolt is possible but it keeps catching on fire. BYD is the closest.


FACT that I called the crash before it happened -- Lets claim Bull shit. The market is tanking -- Yet to you Biden economy is on fire doing great .. Which is it nutboy?

Truth is, yet again you dont know what you are talking about.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

LOL. So I made a point to you, there is no one so uninformed. Nor is there another so devoid of knowledge and facts than yourself.

It’s a FACT they are still losing major market share at rates other car companies aren’t…in fact others are gaining.
It’s a FACT they lowered prices 6 times now, and continue to drop in sales.
It’s a FACT that now that they have competition, they aren’t in demand and don’t hold their value like the competition does.
It’s a FACT that I called the crash before it happened while you were telling people to buy all in at over $400 per share, and I continued to warn it was insanely overpriced and a bubble waiting to pop….I was 100% correct. Economists expect it to continue to fall, Forbes indicates it may well be headed for $25 a share, definitely still falling.

I must follow Tesla better than you, because my predictions have come to pass and yours were all fantasy that never materialized. I think you listen to Elon, who has proven to be a total disastrous idiot who’s destroyed his own companies, not the tech genius he once appeared to be.
You simply cannot ever admit you were w-w-w-w-wrong. A sign of massive insecurity.

Um…operating margin dropped FROM 19% to 11%. Operating capitol dropped even more. Price drops aren’t improving slumped sales. Massive recalls are not only making customers unhappy, they are turning off new customers. Poor construction is not up to industry standards and new non Teslas are. Drivers assist has just been convicted on a $3 million injury/damage claim (with more in the pipeline while other companies roll out theirs.
Worst of all is Elon himself, who decided to become a public personality figure, exposing his far right politics to his left leaning customer base, his willingness to take any government handout while decrying them at every turn, his unbelievably bad business sense, his douchbaggyness and constant hypocrisy, and his penchant to pretend his best case scenario is a guaranteed future. He, more than any two factors combined, is responsible for the slump in sales and crash of Tesla and Twitter.

You blame the 2020 economy, but every other ev manufacturer is doing much better. You say they made 420000 cars q1 23…maybe true, but what good are they when they only sold 181,000. Making all those poorly constructed cars comes at a major loss. Derp.

bobknight33 said:

To the uninformed you make a point. One based on no knowledge of facts.
Truly you do not follow TESLA.

Stock fell mainly due to their gross margin only being 19%. Typically they they have been running at around 26%

The economy is sucking and adjustments are being made by Tesla.
On investor day they indicated that they would sacrifice gross margin in order to keep on the path of rapid growth. Their growth target is go from 2022 1.4 million to 2023 1.8 +million vehicles made. Q1 they made roughly 420K.




Ukraine war current status

newtboy says...

I know the media YOU watched was fake, 1 sided propaganda for the extreme right and outright insanity like Qanon. I know anything less you call liberal fake news no matter how many times it’s proven correct.
Edit: so we’re clear, you gave up on cable news, where you got all your info 2015-2023 because they’re fake, biased, government propaganda and have LOWERED your standards to random internet YouTube “news” channels that only repeat what they heard on cable news with some exaggeration and misinterpretation? Um….ok.

No sir, I’ve never watched what you call “news” except as an example of the nonsense the right is spouting. I watch real news, usually from multiple sources, then verify. That’s why you never catch me spouting the kind of debunked nonsense you spout, and why I don’t have to slink away in shame 5 times a week and ignore your baseless accusations, but instead can debunk each and every one with factual information.

I would rather watch actual news then look into what they touched on than propaganda channels that get me to believe the stupidest anti American nonsense and lies, like the lies they convinced you to repeat about Covid, Jan 6, Pelosi, CRT, lizard people, space lasers, 9/11 was an inside job, pizza pedophiles are inter dimensional travelers, Ukraine started this war, Russia is winning, the US destroyed the German pipeline, etc.
You have never searched the internet for completeness of any issue, you look for someone spouting the same nonsense you are and think rando internet trolls that watched the same internet news and regurgitate it are corroborating it, not just repeating it.

They took the parts full of Russian illegals and Russian “separatists” that never accepted Ukraine as a separate nation, the parts that didn’t fight back or had already been taken by Russian backed separatist terrorists….Mexico took back more of Texas than Russia has Ukraine….how did that turn out? This war was supposed to take Russia 2 weeks to take over a mostly unarmed nation with no real military. Instead civilians with little weaponry and much less training have descimated them at over a 3-1 rate despite being outmatched 2-1 in population. There hasn’t been any significant addition to Russian territory in years, but NATO has doubled its border with Russia and is rapidly expanding.
Russia is SO inept it couldn’t take an unarmed nation 1/4 full of Russians.

Lol. Sucker. Their “taking bakhmut” footage was fake.

So, even your propaganda says Russia hasn’t taken it? Odd, they claimed to have taken it all 2 weeks ago….which you repeated.

What, you want individual UNVERIFIED videos of Ukrainians taking out Russians? There’s one posted every 5 minutes. Many can be found here - https://www.youtube.com/@Kanal13AZ

How about one of Russia bombing Russia?



Or Ukraine getting more troops https://youtube.com/shorts/qAvJtapgeAc?feature=share
Or Russia taking insane losses in Bakhmut https://youtube.com/shorts/W7CWCa9A0R4?feature=share


Not that anything but a fat old white guy sitting in front of a camera saying Russia is winning will convince you.

Edit: Wait….you think I have “followers”!?! It would be news to me. How many do I have? Could I start my own cult yet? I hear it’s a great way to get rich.

bobknight33 said:

Well I gave up on watching cable fake news. You know the media is fake/ 1 sided. propaganda for the government .

However there are plenty of sheeple, like you who do watch the fake news.

Rather watch cable news who will provide less than 2 min talk and will "leave it there" without getting a full picture , only a snippet. I rather search the internet for more completeness.

As you say "Russian military is so inept " but they have taken a good part of Ukraine.


"Didn’t you say 2 weeks ago Russia was poised to crush Ukraine and had taken Bahkmut…".... I did say that and I am correct.

Bakhmut is a major objective and Ukraine is loosing. Now nearly 80% taken.


Please post Ukraine is winning videos. IF you can find them. Please enlighten me and your sheeeple followers.

I'm not interested on some general sitting in front on some senate hearing saying Ukraine is winning -- show actual news .



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