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On This Day In 1986 Space Shuttle Challenger explosion

BSR says...

I lived in Cape Canaveral during the shuttle years and saw all but 5 launches in person. My two other sisters and I happened to be in Augusta, GA visiting my third sister that day. As we were getting ready to leave, I remembered the launch was just minutes away and decided to watch it on TV before we left.

When it exploded, I didn't understand at first that the shuttle exploded. My first thought was that it sure looked different on TV. Then it sunk in what was really happening. I couldn't believe what was happening.

It was time to leave and go back home. We got into the car and I drove for about 10 minutes thinking about what I just saw. Then it hit me. I had to pull over and cried until I was able to proceed.

Seven months later, people were finding small pieces of debris washing up on the shores of Cape Canaveral and Cocoa Beach.

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bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Today is interesting….
1.)a federal judge said in her official ruling that guilty insurrectionists WERE acting on Trump’s orders to “stop the steal”, which meant disrupt congress in their constitutional duties. That officially makes him a seditious insurrectionist.
2.) his deposition in the Eugene Carrol case is so full of perjury and contradiction it will be a miracle if he’s not charged. He actually claimed he’s never once touched a woman without prior consent….as if we hadn’t seen all the videos.
3.) in his pre deposition he was shown a photo of Carrol, who he’s repeatedly said he didn’t rape only because she’s “not his type”, but when he saw the photo he said “that’s my beautiful ex wife, Marla”. D’oh!
What a tool. Where’s your messiah now? (Hint, it’s a courtroom somewhere).

Edit: and, on Toth Senchal, he fully admitted stealing classified documents from the whitehouse because he liked the colorful folders. Another flailing explanation that contradicts his other flailing explanations without being a defense.
Still no defense to refusing to turn them over and lying about having them when asked by the archives, when they were demanded by the archives, or about actively hiding them when the FBI searched for them repeatedly, finding more every time everywhere they searched. 🤦‍♂️
Also no explanation for Giuliani claiming he was routinely instructed to take top secret documents home despite not having security clearance to see them and not having a secure place to store them at home.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

And more MAGA terrorism….
https://www.abqjournal.com/2565117/solomon-pena-arrested-in-shootings-targeting-new-mexico-democratic-politicians-homes.html

Also, big surprise, George Santos has direct ties to sanctioned Russian oligarchs, which explains where his campaign and personal finances got millions in funding….also big surprise, McCarthy promised to seat him on multiple committees because ethics, morals, laws, and patriotism have no place in the MAGA Republican Party.

A Definitely True Message From George Santos

newtboy says...

Hold on there nutjob….

I 100% agree the ball was completely dropped by Dems who should have made an issue of this in Oct, knowing the right wouldn’t because they say facts and honesty are only for liberals. Had they discovered this immoral scam directly from the RNC before the election, Dems would have kept the house.

But it’s not the job of the opposition to discover the lies their opponent tells, nor their fault for not uncovering lies told by candidates and backed by their party. It’s the person who lies and those that knowingly corroborate their lies that are to blame, they are in the wrong, not the Democrats. You would blame the victim for not discovering the unbelievable crime beforehand, and accept no blame as the willing accomplice. Do you blame home invasion victims for not having security doors and bullet proof windows, armed security, and panic rooms? Oh wait….you actually do (Pelosi)

It took more than a scratch of the surface because Republican representatives and RNC officials totally knowingly supported and corroborated the lies with big grins, never saying a word despite knowing he was completely full of shit and not caring one bit they were lying to their constituents because honesty is not a righty feature, they didn’t just lie to the left, they did this to you, lying to you and making you their sucker intentionally for power. You don’t care, because it gains your team power and you like being lied to, and no amount of criminality and dishonesty is a deal breaker for you….absolutely nothing could make you upset that you belong to a terrorist anti American party of crooks and frauds, not even when they call to repeal the constitution and eliminate voting.
If Democrats perpetrated this kind of fraud you would be apoplectic, totally enraged and calling for another insurrection, but they never have and never would because their constituents care about honesty, facts, and ethics unlike the right.

You love to “both sides” every time your side gets caught pulling fraud after fraud after fraud after fraud after fraud after fraud after fraud after fraud after fraud, but you NEVER come up with examples of anything close to the scope and immorality of the Republicans. I show you a dozen concerted efforts by campaigns and elected officials to defraud elections on massive, 10000 votes and more scale, you come back with one woman who cast a single provisional ballot in Texas after officials cleared her to vote and say “both sides”.

Democrats aren’t perfect, but 98% of corruption, fraud, outright lies, self dealing, etc is on the Republican side, and 100% of yes to big money in politics, 100% of domestic terrorism, 100% of anti democracy sentiment, 100% of child sex abuse, 100% of calls to rescind the constitution is on the right. Or as you say….both sides.

bobknight33 said:

Hold on there nutboy

Where were the Dems opo research?
A mild scratch of the surface and all this would come out.

That being said he should be kicked out. But Rep's will not do such a thing because they need him to hold the majority.

Sad to see that our government is so corrupt and standards so low. This is on both sides.

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newtboy says...

Why not, if you had gotten away with it for decades by “buying politicians” ?

The truth here is his taxes prove his shady dealings by what’s missing…like a $15 million “gift” from China he didn’t report (among others). Also by devaluations property he over valued for loans. That’s bank fraud.
He thought he kept the foreign bribes off his taxes, like the $15 million handout from China he didn’t pay taxes on anywhere. The problem is fewer and fewer people are willing to take the hit for him, and it’s all coming home to roost.
Remember, he immediately installed his people in the treasury and IRS, people who bent and broke long standing rules and laws to HIDE his taxes from everyone including congress while not doing the required audits he falsely claimed were ongoing.

There’s so much there there that multiple officers in his businesses pleaded guilty to multiple frauds on his behalf. If you think he was close to honest with his taxes, you’re blatantly lying to yourself now.

I attempt to sway people to be pro-fact. That just happens to always mean anti-trump because he is anti-fact.

Those FBI troll taht were on Twitter? I see you’ve bought more delusional lies without looking at facts…if I decipher the pigeon correctly. I assume you’re referencing the exaggeration about the “Twitter files” that claim some such nonsense despite the report saying nothing of the sort….but you wouldn’t read it, you might learn something (don’t worry, it’s highly unlikely based on your past).

More projection, more baseless accusations that are in reality blatant admissions. You’ve lost all credibility to the point where it’s more than reasonable to reply to any accusation with gratitude for the admission of your own guilt. It’s obvious who is the fool, who is the troll, and who offers verifiable fact with references as arguments, I have zero fear that even a few agree with you (that aren’t your sock puppets).

bobknight33 said:

If I were to do shady illegal deals I would not want it on my Taxes.

So Again no there here.
Net are you 1 of those FBI troll taht were on Twitter ? You sure do you best to sway people. to be Anti Trump.

OR are you just a fooled troll?

newtboy (Member Profile)

bobknight33 says...

QE Quantitative Easing
helicopter $ All those Gov Checks that kept people home.

Gas policy. Biden want to kill the oil industry. Transition to cleaner forms of energy is great but you can't just switch off our dependency of oil.



https://youtu.be/PIbrBk9b1Hg

https://youtu.be/Dtf4Q_qzx44


under Trump we were a net exporter of oil. Now we need to import.
oil companies are reporting record breaking profits. But it follows pandemic-fueled losses.
Biden pissed the Saudis over the assassination of the dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi so they say no oil for you, Joe..

When the SPR is depleted or stopped being used what do you think will happen to gas prices?

newtboy said:

Wow. Ok, we can agree that far about China policies. They went too far, and now too lax.

Well….1/2 off something overpriced by 10x isn’t great, that’s why PE ratio matters. I think 25 is super high, but by today’s standards it’s average. 90+ was insane.

You have blamed him for the economy, as if he didn’t inherit 2020’s remains, but I’m just glad you’re willing to share/spread blame. A good step. Kudos.
Don’t know what QE and helicopter $ is.

Supply chain issues are global. It’s hard to blame anyone for even a majority. IMO they have been getting better slowly from 2020….I’m not in manufacturing though.

Gas policy? Explain please. My understanding is gas/oil production is up under Biden….oil company profits certainly are. Analysis indicates their increased profit margins accounted for over 1/2 the increased prices. I’m glad I have some energy stocks in my portfolio.
Remember, Trump policy was to sell our refining capabilities to the Saudis, who then decreased production and increased prices.

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Competitive Race

BSR says...

Just keep in mind who gets to choose your nursing home

jimnms said:

Someone has to teach them the hard lessons. In order to get ahead in life, you have to trample over the little people.

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newtboy says...

Not everything….my portfolio is growing quite a bit, not shrinking by 63% this year. It grew almost 3% today alone….how about yours?
You mean that “covid dip” when it rose to 400 per share during covid and you were screaming “buy! Go all in now!”? ROTFLMFAHS! WTF are you talking about?
Tesla sells the vast majority of its cars to liberals. Tesla has massively turned off liberals (35% positive to under 10% positive) right as other options came on the market, and gotten slightly more popular (20% positive up to 25%) among conservatives who unfortunately for Tesla don’t buy electric cars. Tesla is unlikely to ever get most back. You should understand, Tesla’s days of near monopoly are over, Musk has to sell tens of billions of Tesla stock to pay his debts, which will drive it MUCH lower. You’ll be lucky if it ever gets this good again….and it’s guaranteed to go lower soon. It’s a good time to short, not buy.
FYI- Tesla cut prices by 9%+- in China, and $4k in the US because it seems so many preordered cars have had their orders cancelled and there’s a glut of unsold cars. Not exactly the booming business predicted. That 50% growth is sounding wildly optimistic right now….because today they’re shrinking. 🤦‍♂️

Jan 6 hearings were bi partisan. MAGgot Republicans didn’t want an independent investigation, and all but boycotted this one. No whining now, you asked to be left out.
To paraphrase Roger Stone…You lost. Democracy won. Fuck you. No. You lost. Fuck you!
The insurrection was a one sided seditious act, and a circle jerk by morons. It would be impossible to not find any crimes to refer. What they found is way more than enough to put him in prison for life.
Funny how you LOVE one sided investigations of liberals, like all 12 Clinton investigations, and the planned Hunter Biden investigation (that is a pure partisan one sided planned congressional investigation of a private citizen…a real nothing burger) and all the moronic “investigations “ that are the totality of the Republican platform, but denounce bipartisan investigations of Cons as “one sided”. Pick one. Are one sided investigations just theater? Then call out all the MAGA theater. Are they serious and legitimate? Then find a new baseless fantasy accusation against the Jan 6 committee.

Naaa, friendo. Me and the official ANTIFA organization go to battle fully naked covered in vaseline and glitter. Makes it impossible to keep hold of us, and forces uncomfortable explanations when our enemies get home to their wives sweaty, covered in Vaseline and glitter claiming they were at work!

bobknight33 said:

150 and falling just like everything else. Fud not helping but a great time to buy... I still expect it to go lower. Im sitting in cash.. If I were to buy today I would pick up an extra 1500 shares. FYI TESLA firing on all cylinders 50% growth YoY expected. These opportunities only come around every decade or so. The 2020 Covid dip was also a great time to take advantage of . Did you? I did.

The globe is in a recession not just Tesla -- Compare to Amazon and see.
Average recession lasts 18 months. Q1/Q2 2023 will be worse.

Jan 6 hearings was 1 sided -- a circle jerk committee . I would be surprised id the "didn't" find anything to refusal......... Just BS

No biker gear-- that's newt and his Antifa buddies.

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Whistleblower Exposes Far Right Justices Corruption

newtboy says...

You’re a liar. Watch the video.

He said some “dinners”….with the justices families at their second or third estate in I think Wyoming (definitely including private jet travel there and back, and limousine rides to and from airports) and hunting trips to South America were what he was personally specifically aware of and could recall off the top of his head, not that that was ALL they gave the justices, he certainly did not say the efforts were limited to cards and prayers. Watch it, you must not have or you wouldn’t be making up such easily disproven lies.

I have issues with anyone hosting a judge they have cases before….or will. More so a justice. Major problem if it’s a billionaire getting hours of private lobbying time for personal gains. I don’t and won’t have a case before the Supreme Court, but I don’t want any of them at my home either, I’m not starstruck by celebrities or public figures….but yes, any citizen is worthy of such. They are justices, not gods.

Definitely a problem for justices to socialize with senators….but you’re just posing hypotheticals about Pelosi and Soros not anything that actually happened ever, I’m talking about what HAPPENED regularly with Con justices who have no ethics, and reality is 10000 times worse than your fantasy hypothetical.

If you are a justice, the appearance of impartiality is as important as the impartiality….and they failed miserably at both.

Having a normal social dinner is a far cry from what he testified to, lavish almost certainly multi day vacation-“dinners” at billionaires estates across the country and lavish first class hunting vacations to South America for the family all as ways to get days of private lobbying time with judges they have cases before at a minimum….but you are deathly allergic to honesty so it’s no surprise.

The Con justices sold their decisions and time. You excuse this with a whataboutism fantasy hypothetical that still wouldn’t be acceptable if it were true, but it isn’t. Every baseless accusation is an admission….what other senators and billionaires did the conservative justices sell out to? You just told me there are more.

I’m a blind tool to think that, as they are required by sworn oath to do, Supreme Court justices should avoid even the appearance of impropriety, bias, or favoritism and should certainly avoid actively engaging in them or be impeached and removed from the bench. Ok buddy. Noted.

Such an infantile mind you have. Always prepared to defend the indefensible with nonsense and blather, never fact.

bobknight33 said:

Spin to your hearts content.
That what he said.

You just want to read was more into it.

So you want the SCOTUS to have dinner at you house? Are you worthy of such event?

But you have not issue if SCOTUS had dinner at George Soros / Nancy Pelosi house?

But have dinner with like minded folk you get you panties in a twist.

Such a blind tool you are.

Whistleblower Exposes Far Right Justices Corruption

newtboy says...

Liar. That’s not what he said. No surprise, you can’t be near the truth, it burns you.

He sent millionaires/billionaires as “stealth missionaries”…not mom and pop evangelicals. Mom and pop prayed and sent cards, billionaires sent hundred thousand dollar and more vacations. He did that because billionaires can make bribes mom and pop can’t…sent stealth because bribing judges is against their religion, ethics, and morals….and justices are apparently exempt from ethic and morality rules and laws so can accept any amount without reporting it but still don’t like the optics.
I would bet you any amount (were you not a welcher) the “conservative” justices never pay for their lunches, which they hold in places like the four seasons where the bill can exceed $1k easily every day. Keep in mind this well funded group was only one of dozens lobbying the conservative justices.

Alito leaked decisions to these billionaires, and let them shape decisions….and was paid well for it. Typically hypocritically, suddenly the right doesn’t care one bit about leaks from the court, when last week they were still screaming for blood from the 3 sane justices they assumed were the leakers. Now that it’s known Alito is a leaker….NOTHING BURGER. You infants are so transparent. To your ilk wrong is only wrong if the left does it.

A few dinners is what they CLAIMED, but not everything they did. It’s what he says he suggested (but that’s not believable one bit), not the limit of their involvement by far.
He admitted they hosted dinners for them regularly…including travel across the country and stays in massive estates as part of the “dinner”, and including their friends and families, and often and repeatedly hosted them on extravagant vacations to different continents, including extravagant first class hunting trips to South America, etc, (including first class travel for them and their families)…. and entered a Faustian deal where the court would make abortion illegal only if the evangelicals would support EVERYTHING ELSE in the far right agenda no matter how evil.

Hilarious that he claims he was trying to convince the court it had the people’s support to eradicate reproductive rights. That was a blatant lie from evangelicals, they were opposed by over 70% of the people, and utterly destroyed the legitimacy of the court in their political zeal to erode individual rights for Americans. (And many other ethical and moral failings)

This is the far right court selling a decision (and a legal right) for political gains…and you know they get kickbacks from the far right for that too.

You love wasting tax payer dollars. How many millions wasted on Trump’s fake illicit defense by an activist judge inserting herself in a federal case to protect him? How many hundreds of millions were wasted in Trump’s repeated election fraud investigations that found no fraud besides Republican frauds they ignored? How many billions wasted on Trump’s failed useless border fence that’s already crumbling into rivers and getting blown down in wind, and hasn’t slowed border crossings at all since they’ve increased since he built it? How much was wasted investigating BLM and ANTIFA….how much was wasted CREATING ANTIFA by labeling any protester ANTIFA unless they could prove they weren’t, in a ploy to create a boogie man for you to fear? Now you want to spend hundreds of millions investigating private citizens (Hunter, Clinton). You want to spend hundreds of millions investigating Fauchi. You don’t want to spend a dime investigating the highest court being bribed….unless you only target liberal justices then you’re 100% on board with any amount.
And exactly how many tax dollars have been spent on investigating this? Pretty certain it’s near zero. It’s just public knowledge now. Just said in congress under oath…that’s all.

Edit: I bet you have no problem with justices like Kavenaugh “partying” (getting drunk and raping women?) with Matt Gaetz, Stephen Miller, Erick Prince, Matt Schlapp, Sebastian Gorka, Sean Spicer, and others who have upcoming cases in front of his court, right? Just like it’s fine that Thomas didn’t recuse himself from cases directly involving his wife despite clear ethics rules requiring he do so….right? So much for “high ethical standards”….they have no standards. The right delegitimization the court started with denying Obama a nomination and is now complete.
And the Mark Meadows voter fraud case progresses. Sure he lived in a run down mobile home in the woods, he wasn’t lying to illegally register to vote in N Carolina…one of 3 places he registered. Lots of republicans committing vote fraud in N Carolina.

bobknight33 said:

This is what is admitted:
We sent greeting cards, prayed and had dinner at times.
Occasionally we got together for a few days out west.


WOW that is influencing peddling at the highest level.

Good find at government wasting tax dollars on nothing .

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newtboy says...

Today terrorist Trumpists “took credit” for the terrorist acts over the weekend across the nation, cheering them and hoping they did maximum damage to America. Also their communications about their plans to attack power grids were discovered.

In N Carolina they have all but said they were the ones who shot up the power grid, “we know why the power is out” “god works in mysterious ways. (Wink)” putting thousands in the cold and dark for days during a winter storm….and their digital communications planning it support that. Apparently this was done to disrupt a local drag show scheduled for 7pm Saturday, right after the sub stations were shot up causing millions in damage and freezing over 36000 people in their homes without heat or power.
In Florida militant Trumpist terrorists attacked drag shows with violence.
In Ohio they attacked drag shows and gay clubs, shutting off power, blocking all access in or out, taunting them with another mass shooting while dancing to YMCA (because you’re too stupid to know it’s a gay anthem about loving public gay sex….or more likely because y’all love public gay sex while you scream how hate it….that’s much more Republican.)

More death, destruction, and debauchery by the now publicly anti constitution anti democracy anti America terroristic Republican Party.

It’s ok Bob, I know you likely blocked me after you lost the election despite your still posting questions to me. You aren’t adult enough to stand behind your statements or hold a conversation, especially while every prediction you made in the last year fails to materialize and you lose your shirt while the right loses its clout, because you are nothing but an anti American troll…and likely really 14. I don’t expect you to have the testicular fortitude to respond….but you deserve a daily reminder of the anti American terrorist your messiah Trump has turned you into.



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