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Rand Paul spars with ABC host over election integrity

vil says...

So was it stolen or wasnt it?

Everyone is biased and untrustworthy. Hedge your bets. Listen to everyone and dont dwell on what you already "know". Break those bubbles. Listen to people with proven records and known motives. For gods sake I get how people got hooked on Trump or Stalin or Michael Jackson, but Rand Paul? Rudy Giuliani? Beats me.

Lawyers Can Remain Silent, Too

Mystic95Z (Member Profile)

Trump's Star Witness Is A Drunk Karen

newtboy says...

Of the 20+ hours of people speaking you cherry pick a few.

You need more crazy, sure, here you go.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rah9-Fobckk

I personally think that 70% can be explained away in a legit way.

If 70% of the evidence you present in court is faked, you lose the case. What's actually happened is 99.97% have proven to be false or just whining about nothing, explained away by facts and knowledge or just plain lies. The only one not thrown out was complaining poll watchers weren't allowed close enough to read ballots (which isn't their job), so they let them closer.

No actual poll watchers were removed except for cause because they ignored the rules and were disruptive, most removed weren't actual poll watchers, they were trump goons who wanted to watch and interfere with counts. No officials were removed.
Zero evidence the guy who claimed to truck completed ballots even drove a truck, and his claims are impossible. Every ballot is paired to one voter, you can't just fill out ballots randomly and have them counted anywhere in America.
Republican election officials reviewed this claim and found it has no merit whatsoever, despite the 90 second video you misrepresented.
Wrong. They investigated every claim they received, not one was credible. It's Giuliani who did no investigation, just put out a million dollar prize for anyone who could lie well enough to not get tossed from court, so far nothing.

What? OAN and Newsmax are talking about Biden's socks and not covering this farce?! That's surprising, they love dishonest lies and misleading morons.

bobknight33 said:

Of the 20+ hours of people speaking you cherry pick a few.

I personally think that 70% can be explained away in a legit way.

However when election law is not followed, as these people have said,
Poll watchers and other republican officials are imitated, and removed, which is against the law,

when completed ballots cross state lines ( NY to PA) ,

When officials tell every to to go home and that the counting for the evening has stopped then pull out suitcases a t from under tables after officials and being run through the machines with out poll watchers there is fraud going on and must be looked into.

BARR comes out sand says what he said, What did FBI,DOJ look at? Not 1 investigation has taken place or finished.

This isn't over. Trump still has fight in him.

Those 20+ hours of hearings and meetings have 200,000 to 500,000 viewers watching on line. Too bad Fake news only telling the story of what sock color Biden is wearing.

Trump's Star Witness Is A Drunk Karen

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Lol. Still the best you've got is one poorly spoken statement you can intentionally misinterpret? So kindergarten Bob. Try using the same criteria on any Trump speech ever, you'll be horrified.

We had a fair election despite all the republican efforts to block and hide and deny votes. Trump lost. Bigly. Get over it and grow up.

There is zero evidence of any improprieties. None. Nada. Zip. Trump and Giuliani can lie on tv all they want, dishonest people can make all the accusations on the hotline they want. OAN can claim Trump got >400 electoral votes all they want. No one is willing to lie in court yet, they all recanted when placed under threat of perjury. The cases they submitted are based on supposition, suspicion, and idiocy (like using one states results compared with another states population to show fraud). There's zero evidence of fraud, and zero chance the courts will reverse the outcome. Get over it and stop the tantrums, threats, and terroristic behavior. It's 100% unpatriotic.

Edit:your little veritasesque video is more of the same bullshit. Liars who won't tell these same lies under oath....but you're happy to believe them if they support Trump no matter what nonsense they spout....like suggesting we just have another election because they lost this one...or because the trump crowd wasn't all allowed inside.

Trump has today to refile a real case in Pennsylvania, the state has one day to respond....to the same republican judge that unceremoniously tossed their last case with prejudice as a bag of jenkum the lawyers involved must be huffing. The interesting part is they are so incompetent that they didn't even request a stay of the order allowing Pennsylvania to certify today. Good luck with that.

Riddle me this....if Democrats are so capable that as the minority they can create a multinational conspiracy with tens of millions involved to commit the greatest crime in American history, leaving no trace, not a scintilla of actual evidence of this enormous world wide criminal conspiracy beyond untrustworthy people's accusations, don't you think they should be in charge? Don't you think their leadership would have to benefit America more than Republicans who can't make an agreement with foreign powers because no one trusts us to keep our obligations now? Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, democrats are all baby drinking lizard people who have gone through this astonishing effort flawlessly because they hate America and only want to sell it out (contrary to the pedophile filled party that actually tried to sell Puerto Rico). 🤦‍♂️

Stop being a crybaby loser and grow up. Your tantrum is going to cost lives thanks to a delayed vaccine rollout and international crises we are creating by pulling out of the middle east and provoking war with Iran.
Trump lost by a massive landslide and you want him to ignore the clear will of the people and stage a coup. Remember that in 4 years when President Harris refuses to leave office because of how racist Trumpsters treated her, and claims she gets a preemptive do over of her next term because of expected obstruction and begins openly declaring she's going for four terms or more. I'm going to rub your nose in it so hard you're going to intentionally get covid to get rid of the smell.

Michigan just certified. D'oh!

Edit: the trump administration has just started the transition officially. Pretty much game over.

Harris 2021-2036 or longer! Lol.

bobknight33 said:

Game not over.
Just warming up.

You do want a fair election, correct?

Let's talk about Biden outsmarting Trump's transition trap..

newtboy says...

I've been wondering where this particular bullshit story came from....it's sounding like it comes from Giuliani being too stupid to keep the states straight and comparing Minnesota results to Michigan population statistics in actual court filings!
Er mer gerd.

bobknight33 said:

An election analyst, noted that these “the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters.”

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newtboy (Member Profile)

siftbot says...

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dedstick (Member Profile)

Let's talk about Biden outsmarting Trump's transition trap..

newtboy says...

He got over 13 million more votes than Clinton. Hardly underperforming.

Is this "election analyst" from OAN or are they from Newsmax? No other outlets including Fox will make or air such specious claims.
Election OFFICIALS have said there were no such irregularities. That claim is asinine and just another lie...I think you know it.

This largest non white vote in 60 years is another Trump outright lie, Bush 2 did significantly better.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/11/09/no-trump-didnt-win-the-largest-share-of-non-white-voters-of-any-republican-in-60-years/?sh=2222b
fc4a09b
So much for racist Trump ever being honest.
(Edit: BTW, while not all Trumpsters are racists, they are all willing to stand behind one.)

He needs a coup to pull this off, he lost the election bigly. If Trump wins every remaining lawsuit he will not flip a single state. That's probably why he put Giuliani in charge of them, because they don't matter.

bobknight33 said:

Biden Under performed Hillary Clinton In Every City...Except Four.

Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.”


An election analyst, noted that these “the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters.”


Trump won the largest non-white vote share for a Republican presidential candidate in 60 years. So much forTrumpers being racists.

Trump still needs a Hail Mary to pull this off.

Republicans in 2018 Post-Midterm Elections

newtboy says...

In reality, there's no other choice since there's zero chance the current president will concede or cooperate with a smooth transition.

Once there's no chance remaining votes uncounted or contested could sway the election, a point we are well past, any challenges are academic and couldn't change results, so there's no reason to refuse to acknowledge that fact, especially when it's spurring right wing terrorists to act and dividing the nation, another point we past days ago. The obstinance is harmful to the nation and our institutions, like Trump is trying to burn the government down on his way out the door. No democrat has ever done this in similar circumstances. There's a theory that he's only doing it to bilk his followers out of more money towards his "legal defense fund" that really goes to pay off campaign debt and directly into his pockets with a small portion paying lawyers like Giuliani to lose cases. He's millions in debt there too, and it becomes his personal debt when he's out of office....with near a billion due next year, he needs every penny he can con them out of.

Normally the clear winner would be being brought up to speed on things like covid response and international relationships even if they weren't declared the official winner yet. (Edit: They would also have access to top secret intelligence all previous presidents (except Trump) use to vet their cabinet, being denied that information severely hampers Biden's ability to properly vet them, holding up his nominations. Thanks to Trump's disastrous covid response, Biden needs to be fully ready to change policies day one, it's life or death for 1000+ Americans every day he's delayed.) This time, with a petulant toddler throwing a tantrum for the next 2+ months, that might not help, because there's no telling what damage he might do before then. Biden is just making his own plans instead, preparing to start work day one no matter what dumpster fires Trump sets. That said, this obstinate denial of the results and sewing division, making up and repeating baseless charges to discredit the election (looking at you) have real world disastrous consequences and weakens the state of the union. It's clear the plan was to rely on the Trump appointed judges to rubber stamp the baseless claims and hand him a win. So far it hasn't worked, but it could. That's why we should care about the dozens of frivolous lawsuits, if his judges decide to be the lackeys he expects them to be, they could actually steal the election in court....but it would spark nationwide unrest if not insurgency.

greatgooglymoogly said:

Yes, Republicans are hypocrites, but so are the Dems if they aren't willing to wait for the process to finish before insisting the race is over. We managed to wait till December back in 2000 to find a resolution, that ended up fine. If they were consistent they wouldn't care about lawsuits or complain about the GAO not helping the Biden transition.

Hitler learns he can't stop vote counting

Four Seasons Philadelphia News Conference, Trump 2020

newtboy says...

The next news conference is at the Waldorf, so don't be surprised if Giuliani is standing in a giant salad for that one...it's fitting, Waldorf salads do have nuts.

Borat 2 - The Rudy Interview

newtboy says...

Nobody made Giuliani flirt with the young woman, no one made him touch her repeatedly, no one made him go to the bedroom with her for "drinks", and no one made him marry his own cousin!
No one made him sit for a Borat interview either.
Giuliani created the Giuliani controversy. Duh Dmitry. Such desperation lately. Хуй тебе́!

bobknight33 said:

How Borat FABRICATED Giuliani Controversy



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