Is it a cult classic? Deservedly so (I personally love it). Is it a ground breaking technological and artistic cinematic endeavour? Absolutely. No doubt it'll stand the test of time and worth to have books written about it, but to call it "still looks like a billion bucks"... let's be real, that's a no. And I don't even care about 90% of movies that cost half of a billion bucks.

Putting a dollar amount to TRON's visual expression is just misguided. It has not been imitated/replicated (imo, for good reasons) since, which I'm glad about so its visual uniqueness is not diluted by lessor films.

The Pinto thing is total BS sensationalist stat mining. They include the guy that tried to blow himself up in the Cybertruck in Vegas as someone who was killed by the truck. Really?

The parts thing only happens when vehicles and replacement parts are under warranty. @newtboy If you can find the source showing the warranty is voided driving a Cybertruck in the grass then I'll find the same language in the warranty docs for Fords.

This stuff is funny and Tesla doesn't deserve any leeway since their CEO has apparently gone"fact free" lately, but pushing easy to discredit "facts" seems like it distracts from the real issues with these vehicles and the company as a whole.

The biggest problem with Tesla in my mind is their over-promising and shitty service. I'm not sure how companies get away with promising stuff that isn't available yet but it seems like it is getting more common.

To me it looks like their service problems are a mix of 3 factors.
1. Not enough replacement parts at the ready
2. Service centers are understaffed because of the principal of running at below expected need until shit breaks. Only then can you apply more resources.
3. Service centers were designed to work efficiently but are run by a bunch of idiots that came from other manufacturer service centers so they want to do it "their way" instead of following the efficient hands off model that was originally planned.

Er... before resettling Mar-a-Lago, to have an even fairer equivalency, shouldn't we eliminate, like, all the Trumps, robin hood all their ill-gotten gains, stave them to near death before resettling them out into the Gulf of Mexico?

They don't deserve to get off easy.

Let me tell you all about him,

this maggot intruder and Q fan is on video breaking in and attacking Pelosi, admitted doing it, admitted he intended to kidnap, assault, and likely murder Nancy Pelosi based on misinformation he got from the felon about her, has been convicted on every charge, and just got life in prison on top of his earlier sentences.

Once again, every word you have ever said about this assasination attempt has been false, dismissive, insulting, and shows clearly you wish he succeeded in his murder plans…and then you probably go ape shit at the suggestion that your boy led both attackers, drove both his attackers to it, faked his injury (he absolutely did, or he hurt himself, he was not hit) and deserved the attempts (no politician besides his German hero ever did deserve assassination more than he does, and that guy’s own generals tried 3 times).

I hope you’re at least brushing your teeth after eating all that shit, Mr MEGA.

He has no arguments period, or any individual thought left in his head. That’s why every post now is nothing but a cut and paste propaganda short produced by Putin. His brain is mush.

He might have changed when it came out that all his talking heads are on Putin’s payroll, but he has nothing else to say so he continues to regurgitate their propaganda. It’s truly a sad state of being he finds himself in…but he has ensured he deserves zero sympathy after years of snarky fascism, racism, sexism, and pure lies.

😂 Sure you think the same about the 3 hurricanes building right now. 😂

I’m sure you think the same thing about the second “once in a generation” storm about to hit Florida in under 2 weeks, with 2 more hurricanes in the Atlantic. I hope they all go through your neighborhood…all 20 named hurricanes this year and all 25 next year. No one deserves them more. Don’t apply for assistance, your guy said there is none because it was spent on immigration (actually that happened in 2018 under the felon, never under Biden)

I’m just asking questions, I made no statement there.
Questions like WHY can’t we see Obama’s long form birth certificate, and WHY won’t Trump stop raping girls?

The Secret Service uses multi tiered defense. The inner tier is close support, Secret Service agents who rush in and provide physical cover. Mid tier is mid range/crowd control, usually covered mostly by local police who are temporarily added to the security detail and have liaisons to communicate to the Secret Service. Outer tier (snipers) are looking outward for long range threats.
He was in the mid tier range, and reports say the crowd notified police (not Secret Service agents) well beforehand, but the Secret Service obviously didn’t get the info. Is it because there weren’t enough police? I don’t know but maybe. If so, would that be because he’s well known for not paying for security after agreeing he would and they didn’t want to do extreme crowd control for free? I don’t know but it’s likely.

Down vote for the instant blaming the Secret Service without knowing any details, who failed in what duty, or much of anything….and because this cracked out living in mommy’s basement “lone wolf” (really bad wardrobe choice for this topic) always deserves a downvote every single time.

As tempting as it would be to do so, I don’t support political violence, unlike MAGA that needs a gun in every political ad, usually pointed at their opponents name or likeness, or puts their picture out with crosshairs (right before they got shot), or calls for second amendment solutions to political disputes, or actually fomented a violent coup on Jan 6 and tried to steal the election by force, or celebrated and had the best time dismissing it as nothing when Pelosi was attacked. Patriots believe in democracy even when it fails us.

Cannot upvote until I see the follow-up of the owner with hands and feet zip tied, ball gagged, and left deep in the desert alone during a heat wave.
People who do this deserve the most torturous death imaginable.

Lied to? How so….be specific.

😂 Reiterate the oblivious 😂….um…yes. The oblivious felon did make this claim first, the oblivious “justices” did reiterate.

So why is Trump celebrating like he just got a get out of jail free card?


This is not how it’s always been, before this ruling official acts still had to be lawful…not anymore. As long as they’re official acts, they are legal (as far as penalties are concerned) no matter what the law says. That’s what they ruled.
Edit: They did not give the disgraced ex president his claimed total immunity however…if the courts decide fomenting a coup was not an official presidential act, or falsifying documents for fake electors is not an official president’s act, or secretly pressuring a governor to “find” 11000+ votes is not an official presidential act, or taking and withholding classified state secrets and lying about having them to the FBI and actively hiding them from warranted searches after he was no longer president are not official presidential acts, then he still has some serious legal trouble to add to whatever happens next week at his sentencing.

As long as the President is using official powers, what he uses them for cannot be questioned. Biden could assassinate Trump like he claims Biden tried to do 100% legally now, and Thomas, and Alito, and the other corrupt “justices” that invalidated a long cherished institution for money, and anyone he thinks threatens America…100% immune because protecting the nation is a Presidential duty.
Fortunately Trump tried to hide most of his crimes by using unofficial orders to non governmental agents through unofficial channels, so he’s got an uphill climb to argue they are official acts.
The issues listed in the dissent are not extreme or hypothetical, they are in fact campaign promises by the convicted felon and terrorist leader and specific examples argued by the Trump lawyers as things that are (now) legal…like assassination of a political rival.
The court just couldn’t help but try to minimize its extremist ruling that upends 248 years of the rule of law and puts the president above the law when using presidential powers (like assassinations, or cancelling elections, jailing political rivals, disbanding the border patrol, etc.) by calling threats made by those who have followed through on those exact same threats before “fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals"
The president refusing to accept the election results and trying to seize or hold onto power illegally was one example…not extreme or hypothetical or fear mongering, it fucking happened, and this ruling means it may be legal (if considered official).

Biden damn well better make use of this immunity to save democracy or maybe he deserves to lose, he now has carte Blanche to pull anything, absolutely anything as long as he says it’s for America, everything is allowed, nothing is forbidden. I’m worried he has morals and won’t use these new unlimited assassination and coup powers…very worried. I know for an absolute certainty that the other guy doesn’t.

More delusional twaddle…although you DO know bullshit.

Every single year of President Biden’s presidency has had better jobs numbers than the best year of convicted felon Trump’s.

That is exactly what you said last spring, except they weren’t revised down, many reports were revised up from the initial unbelievably good reports….you liar. You just CLAIMED they would be revised down, and you were wrong as usual so you went silent when pressed about it like the sniveling cowardly infant you really are. Now you just lie about it again, hoping everyone reading is as ignorant and intellectually lazy as you are and don’t check.

Went to non Americans! lol, making up more bullshit I see. Your proof? Nothing….because those temporary migrant jobs aren’t counted in the reports.

Only one candidate partied with the most prolific pedophile in US history for decades and said on video that they had similar taste in women (young), only one bought a teen beauty pageant specifically to be able to spy on them in their dressing room, naked 14 year old girls, then bragged about it…only one told multiple women he was attracted to them sexually because they looked like his then young daughter, only one joked publicly about having sex with his underage daughter, only one is credibly accused of raping a 13 year old girl, only one is an adjudicated rapist….its not Joe it’s convicted felon and rapist Don John Trump.

4% is an up tic from the longest record low unemployment period in our history. It’s a good thing.

The administration put the wheels back on the bus, and has been souping up the engine for 3 1/2 years now. If Biden wins, the media will continue to pretend we aren’t in an economic boom that we’ve been in for a year now without it being reported.

I certainly hope they are using American weapons in Russia. I would give them Moab’s and all the missiles and bullets they can shoot, then put American soldiers in Ukraine and go to full fledged war at the first injury. We signed a treaty pledging more than that, we should honor it. Russia deserves a biological weapon attack.

Israel is using American weapons to target innocent civilian children…that’s a problem, but we have paused rearming them at least, a big step forward finally.

If convicted felon and rapist Trump wins he will be responsible for any crash, because the trends are ALL positive under Biden’s leadership. If Biden wins there won’t be a crash because he understands economics unlike the 6 time bankrupt and 34 times convicted (not including his businesses convictions) fraudulent “businessman “.

Hey! You’re in a movie!

lol. So delusional. “Even cnn” has meant diddly squat since the first time you said it months after cnn went far right, firing multiple popular centrist and left leaning hosts and hiring dishonest maggots…which if you had 2 brain cells you would know because you’ve been told a few dozen times with proof, but you don’t, or is it pure dishonesty that has you continuing to attempt to mislead? No surprise you continue to say it, you are incapable of learning or thinking, even when a thing has been proven conclusively with citation and indisputable evidence.

Not sure what you think exonerates Trump there, but you are wrong. “Trump’s “fixer” was a skumbag” is hardly the “gotcha!” You seem to think. Trump was quite public that he was proud he had a criminal thug lawyer working for him, fixing his reputation and helping him not pay bills over and over and over and over through illicit payoffs, perjury, threats, frivolous lawsuits, etc…all for Trump. I know you don’t remember, but look at how he and Cohen acted before 2017.
What’s hilarious is he was apparently honest about this on the stand when asked, continuing to testify honestly about crimes he did when he worked for Trump in a criminal organization surrounded by other criminals…and you think it’s a shocker that he did crimes to benefit himself too!?! lol. You are so silly.
What you missed is he admitted lying about how much REIMBURSEMENT was required for (is it Redfinch, the poll fixing/faking company?), and Trump thinks he’s got him cornered because he paid that inflated reimbursement in full….FORGETTING HIS DEFENSE IS HE DID NOT PAY A REIMBURSEMENT! 😂

Even his legal team says conviction is a certainty if there isn’t a Trumpist on the jury prepared to vote against conviction for purely political reasons. The prosecution has thoroughly proven through evidence Trump’s direct total involvement in the scheme to hide his payoff to the porn star he cheated on his mistress with after cheating on his wife with her (McDougal) for nearly a full year (a story Pecker “caught and killed” to help the campaign with more criminal campaign fraud and massive unreported campaign contributions), hiding the payment through business fraud to help his campaign, which made it campaign fraud too.
Cohen just fills in the details, he doesn’t prove the crimes, mountains of documentation including recordings do. If you think a few minor details like the precise timing of a phone call from 8 years ago
(Edit: uh-oh. Photographs of Trump and Stiller together at the exact time of the call were just entered into evidence. So much for that lie.)
or the biased accusation of tangential crimes totally inconsequential to the crimes Trump committed impeach his corroboration of the documentation in evidence, documentation that proves Trump’s direct personal involvement, or that that somehow might tank the entire case, you are as dumb as I think you are.
This only gives reasonable doubt to someone searching for any excuse to vote against conviction despite all the evidence, someone who was never going to convict under any circumstances. We know there’s at least one, hopefully an alternate.

If you missed it, Friday Trump left court saying his NDA with Daniels must be the only illegal NDA ever, all others are legal but his is determined to be illegal…now stupidly admitting he had an NDA with her, something his lawyers and he have been arguing absolutely never happened.
Again, his press conferences can be admitted to the record and only Trump can contradict them on the stand…which will be his end if he testifies and his end if he doesn’t. Either way his own words are going to hang him.
Again, since you missed it, part of what Cohen was repaid for was paying the company who falsely inflated Trump poll numbers online…yes, PAYMENT TO FAKE POLL NUMBERS. I’m certain you will ignore that, then forget it before reading this sentence, because salient facts don’t matter to your ilk, only ridiculous minutiae you can distract your gnat brain with.

Keep dreaming. How many times have you said that, only to watch your exoneration dissolve in the sunlight? You will never learn though, and will believe anything good for Trump and ignore or deny anything bad or evil…which leaves you 100% divorced from reality living in Trumpist fantasy lie filled world. That’s why your predictions absolutely never come to fruition, they’re all based on a fantasy. It would be sad if you didn’t deserve it.
Keep cut and pasting…The pigeon english is almost too dumb to reply too.
“Even cnn CAN hide this…” !?!
“You orange man bad dream going up….”!?!
I’ve known people with severe brain trauma fresh out of a coma barely able to speak with better brains than yours. 😂

Oofff- Every cybertruck on the road has been recalled for dangerous design issues like gas pedals that stick on at full throttle, trunks that slice fingers off, and unprotected electrical systems that cannot get damp.
The stainless steel panels also cannot get damp or they permanently stain.
The bulletproof glass was a dismal failure.
The bed is absolutely tiny….it can barely fit a bicycle
The cybertruck has utterly failed as a truck…especially a $100000 truck you cannot resell for a year.

And as noted above driver assist on all models has failed, full autonomous driving is still a pipe dream, it seems to be getting farther away not closer.

Tesla’s just released profits were down another 55% from last year!

😂 And Elon insists he deserves an over $50 billion bonus!?! 😂

Wow. So little support showed up today after Don called for massive protests that he claimed the police had closed the streets around the courthouse, but they had not, the street was open, there was ONE pro trump protester there. That’s it, all that showed up to support the disgraced ex president…no fans, no supporters, no family. Even Jeffry Dahmer’s parents showed up for him in court! No one is there for poor little DJ that he isn’t paying to be there.
Bonus- After their disastrous performance at the contempt hearing where their arguments were laughable (like claiming that if Trump adds “maga” to any post it becomes a political statement and that magically invalidates the gag order, or that retweeting statements doesn’t violate the gag order even when he edits them, the judge has said he, Trump’s only real attorney, has lost all credibility in this court…Trump already had none, now his lawyers won’t be believed and the judge will instruct the jury to that effect. The keystone cops of lawyers! You get what you deserve sometimes. 😂

Today’s testimony….

“PECKER SCREWS TRUMP”

“[Pecker] Outlines Trump election conspiracy and reveals Trump’s constant cheating on wife Melania in damning testimony” Hilariously describing the then long time married Trump as “well known as the most eligible bachelor”.
Walt Nada has said under oath that he was promised a pardon when Trump wins if he lied to the FBI. 😂
Interviews from person 16 with corroborating evidence show Trump and his family were warned repeatedly that stealing documents from the whitehouse was a crime and they needed to return every page. They also reported under oath that there was never a standing “declassification order”, and could not be because it would be highly illegal. (Handling whitehouse records and preserving them was part of their job). Just more evidence that the treason wasn’t an accident, he stole those highly sensitive classified documents intentionally knowing full well it was criminal when he did it, and criminal to retain them. We still have no idea who he may have shown them to, but we know at the least that both Chinese and Russian agents have been free to roam Mar a Lago while they were there unguarded. You can’t say the same about the personal notes Biden accidentally retained and returned when they were discovered.

I worked for a company called “waiters on wheels” in the Bay Area…essentially door dash before cell phones and the internet. We used handheld radios.
We got minimum wage + tips, and our salaries didn’t pay for gas and car upkeep so we survived or perished based on tipping. It’s hard, thankless work only to be at the whim of your customers mood for your livelihood.
Worse, you pay taxes as if you are tipped 15% on all orders, but the average tip was closer to 8% when you count non-tippers.
Back then, stoners were the worst. Usually paying at least partially in change, rarely a tip at all, maybe an offer of a bong hit for a tip at best.

If you hire a service to deliver, remember there’s an actual person between you and them, and you only hurt the person by not tipping, not the company. If the order is screwed up, it’s unlikely to be their fault, they can only take what the restaurant gives them. Keep that in mind, service people deserve to be paid for their work, and the tip is part of their pay.