Yes, it was a foregone conclusion….because he was undeniably guilty.
Yes, he was guilty before the trial started, and he was legally found to be found guilty after discovery, which is after the trial started. The uncontested evidence proved his guilt beyond any doubt, reasonable, shadow, or sliver…none.
The finding of reality came last year when he couldn’t provide any evidence to contradict the fraudulent contradictory filings he had made.
This trial was only about disgorgement of the ill gotten gains he made through that fraud.
I watched much of it, it absolutely wasn’t a railroad job, his team was given more leeway than any defense team in recent history, every opportunity to put on a defense, they had none, and were clueless about court procedures which could have led to sanctions and contempt charges, and would have for any other defendant.

It was a near hit job, railroaded by his own lawyer’s complete incompetence, and that’s going to end his appeal too, she can’t appeal anything not brought up at the first trial (and SURPRISE! Ineffective council is not a cause for appeal in civil courts…D’OH!). This means Trump has nothing to appeal, and would have to put up all the $350 million in cash in what amounts to escrow before he can even file one. He doesn’t have it, so can’t even try to appeal. I won’t be surprised if he can’t come up with the $89 million to appeal the Carrol decisions. 😂

This WAS total BS, Ivanka shouldn’t have gotten the sweetheart deal of waiting to prosecute until after Trump left office and been let off, she absolutely was part of the Trump Organization Fraud for years, and benefited from the frauds personally to the tune of tens of millions. They also should all see prison, they stole over $350 million through fraud, people lost everything, people died…this gimme is total BS, we agree.

34 felony counts trial coming next month! Can’t wait! Lemme guess, you don’t think he lied about paying off a porn star he had sex with by pretending it was a business expense, and if he did who cares…right? Just because that’s a number of serious felonies, who cares? Right? 😂

LOL. NICE TRY.

The DOJ found zero crimes, just like Hillary. There was no pass to give. Sucker, you bought more lies and are playing the fool, again.
Page 12 “The decision to decline criminal charges was straight forward, the evidence suggests that President Biden did NOT willfully retain these documents.”
Page 215 “there is in fact a shortage of evidence that President Biden intentionally withheld classified materials related to Afghanistan.”

It was Trump the DOJ covered for by claiming the Mueller report exonerated him, which Mueller was publicly clear was a total lie, he recomended charges after impeachment/leaving office and Barr edited and mischaracterized his report.

I would agree people over 70 are past their prime and/or out of the loop, and would absolutely support an upper age limit for all elected offices banning anyone over 70 from holding office. I’m certain you wouldn’t agree, and that what you want is a rolling age one day older than Trump’s current age.

I would also support public testing for dementia and senility of both likely candidates, would you?

But the facts are disputed , which mitigates the ability of the judge to make such decision. This was presented during the 11 weeks of the prosecution side of this hearing.



It only work is such cases as for example 5 people see me run over and kill someone. That is not is dispute.
What is or could be to mitigate my conviction is to show just cause -- IE being robed at gunpoint or such.


This "trial" is about property value. This cant be fraud in any way. Trump places a value and banks do the same and an agreement is made. No bank or lender indicated fraud -- Every bank got paid back, with interest and some made other deals on other projects.

This is a BS show trial. prejudged before it even started.

Only the ignorant are blinded.

All you statement below are bullshit -- none of that in this hearing. Every proposal for loans clearly had disclaimers for banks to do their own due diligence in their evaluation. Some thought higher some though lower-- but all made loans and got paid back.


Sadly stupid dicks with big egos, like you push false information.

I look for actual facts like presented -- Her own words - Trump Guilty before the trial began-- Thats BS

Colorado Supreme decision is just a bump for Trump to get to the Supreme Court

When this goes to the US Supreme Court - a final decision will be made.

This is still a nothing burger -- just a wet dream for the left.

You must prevent treasonous dictatorships to preserve democracy. -section 3 amendment 14 United States Constitution

You are becoming obese from eating all those nothing 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔

Don’t forget, Trump said Ted Cruz should be disqualified from the ballot in 2016. Clinton too. He has no qualms about banning people from the ballot so long as they aren’t named Trump.
Also don’t forget this case was brought by Republicans, not Democrats @bobknight33

PS- still going to disgraced child rapist and Epstein friend and defender Dershowitz!? 🤦‍♂️ he says the 14th amendment doesn’t cover the president (arguments during its writing over the wording prove otherwise conclusively) and now that it only covered one insurrection (the civil war) and that any subsequent insurrections must get a new amendment to be illegal. Both arguments are utter nonsense, have zero basis in law, and are contradicted by the minutes of the sessions in congress when the amendment was written where there spelled out clearly why the wording includes the president and any insurrection. Jesus Christ bob, you just love grasping at rotten straws don’t you?

Nicely the Colorado court included that in their decision, so the originalist justices have a choice, follow what the writers said clearly was the intent and wording of the law, or toss out the constitution and protect Trump again, ending any semblance of legitimacy for this court.

Side note- Texas Republicans, led by the Lt Governor, are already threatening to remove Biden from the Texas ballot for spite. Clearly the right has no problem with removing candidates for no reason at all…only with removing their cult leader for a legitimate constitutional cause.

TRUMP IS DISQUALIFIED TO RUN FOR OFFICE IN COLORADO BY THE COLORADO SUPREME COURT!

Good luck getting 2/3 of congress to over rule their decision.

The video itself, and reality debunk it.
The title is a pure lie.
He did not even allegedly spend anywhere near $872k on hookers.
Clear enough?

You clearly want to conflate correcting any baseless lie you tell about Hunter and Joe with claiming Hunter is an absolutely innocent target, but that’s simply false. Hunter did many criminal things, that’s clear, none of which would normally be elevated to prosecution and certainly wouldn’t warrant jail, that’s also clear. He’s no roll model, but he doesn’t claim to be one. His crimes are similar to those of Trump except in scale, Trump has been found guilty of up to $250 million in tax evasion in NY alone while spending hundreds of millions on “hookers” if all women you pay for sex are hookers (hookers and luxury hotels, rental property, real estate, gifts for girlfriends and wives, lawyers, luxury vehicles, clothing, food, etc)

Considering your rapist, publicly pedophilic, proudly incestuous, “best friend of Epstein”, state secret stealing and selling, convicted fraud, tax cheating, Sudafed addicted cult leader, I don’t think you really want to get into who’s a degenerate and to what extent.

I think it’s clear that Hunter didn’t handle his brother’s death well and went on a multi year binge, with all the related bad decisions that come with that. I think its also exceedingly clear he never did anything that intentionally hurt others or put them in untenable positions, he only hurt himself (and by extension his family).
I think it’s also clear that Hunter didn’t have the ability to peddle any influence, especially when his father wasn’t in office or even a candidate during the time in question, but it’s also abundantly clear the persecution is purely politically motivated as an attempt to paint the father with an exaggeration of the son’s crimes.

What is important to recognize is Hunter is not running for any public office, especially not the highest on earth, he’s a private citizen. Trump wants to be dictator for life then leave the country to his little boys….he needs to now that his fraudulent financial empire is crumbling to dust. Trump made hundreds of millions defrauding others, intentionally hurting others, swindling others, etc.

Please take an English refresher course. It’s painful.

“Did you ever think that the values were off in your statement of financial condition?” Assistant Attorney General Kevin Wallace asked the former president,
“yes, on occasion” Trump responded
😂

Case closed. That’s it. That’s Trump admitting he knowingly and willfully committed major bank and tax fraud…”on occasion”.

He tried the “I have a disclaimer clause so I’m allowed to lie as much as I want.” defense…Engoron has already ruled that the clause does not absolve him of the responsibility to provide true and accurate reports of property values to both lenders and the state, does not allow him to lie or substitute possible future value for today’s actual value, and doesn’t allow the exaggeration of square footage either…all of which he admitted on the stand that he does.

Letting Trump testify was the worst decision Habba has made yet, and it’s going to end in both a total loss in court, a minimum of $250 million in damages maybe much more, and criminal charges against Trump and maybe his kids for the frauds. He would have been infinitely better off staying silent and just losing…but we all know remaining silent is an impossibility for him.

Edit-He’s in check mate for Jan 6 by Chutkan too. He’s saying publicly that he intends to use an “advice of council” defense, trying to claim he just got bad advice that he could foment a coup and send fake electors to steal the election so shouldn’t be libel, but he and his dime store lawyers didn’t understand that that defense waives 100% of attorney client privilege and now he’s being forced to decide if he will use that defense before trial and if so must disclose all communications with his lawyers from 2020-21. 😂

So in short, either disclose all records of his planning for Jan 6 and the big lie which itself would disprove and negate his advice of council defense, or forget the advice of council defense, the only defense he had.
😂 Would the prisoner like a blindfold or a cigarette? 😂

Jenna Ellis, Trump’s lawyer, sure sounds ready to flip, and she would have some good inside info.

Remember her, she’s been one of the loudest of his lawyers about him stiffing her on her legal fees….like he has every lawyer and most others he owes money to.

Now in an interview she said she wouldn’t vote for him because he’s such a malignant narcissist that he claims to have never done anything wrong in his life.

I wonder what changed for her. She said nearly the same thing in 2016, but then became one of his biggest cheerleaders. I guess you can only get raped by the team so many times before you become disillusioned.

Bonus - Holy sheep shit, Trump’s latest disastrous interview he admitted his lawyers told him he lost and he was doing illegal things trying to overturn the election but he decided if they disagreed with his plan they must be RINOs or just bad lawyers so he chose to listen to other people telling him what he wanted to hear because he had already made the decision himself that he would insist he had won the election early on election eve when less than half the votes had been counted despite his staff and election officials and reality telling him otherwise and insisting he stop.
“You know who I listened to…I listened to myself.”

Basically he just plead guilty to all the Georgia charges on national TV and admitted it was all his idea. I know he’s trying to influence the jury pool, but we all expect him to be claiming total innocence, no one expected him to just admit his total guilt. 😂

Second bonus- it seems that one of Trump’s assistants at Maralago (with no security clearance) was often given instructions and to do lists written on the back of highly classified documents from the whitehouse. Trump was using them as scrap paper to be tossed in the trash after use! She kept them and turned them over to the FBI after the first subpoena (that Trump ignored then fought) so Jack Smith has them. D’OH!

In January 2020, the Donald Trump-led Justice Department formally declared that impeachment inquiries by the House are invalid unless the chamber takes formal votes to authorize them, which has not happened.

The FBI, DOJ, AG, and other government departments are bound by their still valid decision, so won’t be responding to any subpoenas until the full house votes for the inquiry.

This inquiry is going to be the freedom caucus alone in a room with no witnesses or evidence because their inquiry is not valid without a full house vote first. Hopefully the Democrats will put a babysitter in there to watch them so they don’t foment another coup attempt.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/12/trump-doj-assist-biden-impeachment-probe-00115393#:~:text=In%20January%202020%2C%20the%20Donald,formal%20vote
s%20to%20authorize%20them.

Edit: even after caving and trying to start this illegal inquiry, McCarthy is still facing a removal vote from his own party, and has indicated he expects a government shutdown at the end of this month if Social Security and Medicaid aren’t cut drastically or ended completely. More proof Republicans can’t lead and are the worst possible stewards of the economy or nation.

I’ve always thought it was a horrific decision, but not at all because of the immediate effects or massive death and destruction they caused in Japan….they fucked around and found out and deserved everything they got (and I was unaware the Russian Manchurian offensive timing, but it’s even more reason to not drop a second bomb or even a first if we knew it was coming).

I think it was horrific because we had no idea what the long term effects of even minimal fallout might be, and in fall/winter the jet stream runs from Japan directly to the highly populated West coast (which we knew well thanks to balloon bombs), so some portion of the fallout was guaranteed to fall on millions of US citizens. We lucked out that it wasn’t deadly a year later, and didn’t cause horrible birth defects with near zero exposure…we had no concrete idea at the time though just guesses, and still don’t have a clear idea of how much it contributed to higher cancer rates in the US.

Keep in mind, we had no idea what discussions the Japanese were having amongst themselves , so no idea how effective our bombs nor the Manchurian offensive were at persuading them to surrender. Hindsight is 2020, but at the time we were flying blind.

The uncertain risk there of possibly killing millions of ourselves or gimping or sterilizing or even Cronenberging entire future generations for the comparatively minimal convenience of not using conventional bombs, to me, is no where near worth it. There were just too many unanswered questions about too many factors. I’m sure the soldiers fighting at the time would feel differently.

*promote the history lesson, learned some new stuff!

She was point out crimes of Hunter.
The data show from his own laptop .

The laptop is real and the FBI knew it. This information would had sunk Sleepy Joe from winning.

"During a transcribed interview with the House Judiciary Committee, an FBI official revealed that at least one senior agent, along with potentially others, who had alerted social media companies about a potential “hack and dump” operation before the 2020 election, were aware of the authenticity of Hunter Biden’s laptop.

As the House Judiciary Committee’s official Twitter account noted, “Testimony reveals the FBI knew the Hunter Biden laptop was authentic, but when asked by a social media company about the laptop’s authenticity the FBI said ‘no further comment’.”

The FBI official, Laura Dehmlow, participated in discussions between the FBI and Facebook prior to the social media platform’s decision to censor the story related to Hunter Biden’s laptop before the 2020 election. Furthermore, The Intercept has indicated that Dehmlow was also involved in the Biden administration’s endeavors to suppress and censor content on social media platforms in relation to misinformation."


https://thepoliticsbrief.com/fbi-official-admits-under-oath-the-agency-knew-the-hunter-biden-laptop-was-real/


Bobnight 61 Nutboy 2

Let me guess….now that Justice Sonia Sotomayor is caught using her staff to help sell books, Supreme Court ethics matter, Justice John Roberts should reverse his 2011 decision to not have any ethics rules at all for justices, and she should be disbarred, right?
But not the MAGA judges who all took tens of millions in free gifts from people with cases before the court, who have completely delegitimized the court and damaged its reputation beyond repair.

FYI-

Double the expected jobs, 1/3 of the expected inflation. Those revised job numbers you said would go down went up. Revised July (2nd quarter) GDP is 2.3%, well above predictions of .5%-.9%. Also, wages are now outpacing inflation by 1.6% and rising! Ready to go blue? 😂

PS- Ray Epps is now sueing Fox for slander for accusing him of being the leader of an fbi plot to cause Jan 6 and frame MAGA, even though they knew he was MAGA with no ties to any federal organization, not fbi, cia, oss, or irs. He hired the lawyer that Dominion used, and has the testimony of Abby Grosberg, Tucker’s ex senior executive producer…so expect another 8 figure settlement for more MAGA lies.

The Supreme Court just ruled that Trump’s attempted legislative coup (the fake electors) was completely illegal. They ruled that state legislators don’t have the final say on elections (so can’t just send a second set of electors), courts do, and courts can strike down or overrule laws or rules legislators put in effect. This kills the “independent state legislation” theory. This decision also declared your state, N Carolina, must let the court review and approve redistributing maps (meaning Republicans can’t gerrymander there anymore and will lose more political power).
Not good for his Georgia trial where his defense was the legislature had the ultimate power to decide elections unbound by votes…now there’s no defense…again.


They also declared Alabama’s districting maps blatantly racist and illegal, and started looking At Louisiana when they ruled. Both redistricted illegally in order to minimize the power of their huge minority populations for 2020 and 2022 elections, blatantly violating voting rights laws. Now it sounds like two more democrats will be seated from new districts in Alabama and Louisiana, and more will likely win elections in 24 with the playing field slightly less prejudiced. You guys were cheating hard all over the South and still losing, the next election may be Republican’s last. Libertarianism is becoming more popular! 🤦‍♂️ 😂 thanks Trump.

D’oh! Sounds like he just admitted to making copies of classified documents/“different plans” in a recent Fox digital interview. He says “what was said was absolutely fine and very perfectly”.

Oops…all those bribes Thomas didn’t report…the bribes that MADE him rich...the tens of millions of unreported income for himself and millions more for multiple family members including his wife, “son”, and mother that he sold his court decisions for….he also didn’t report to the IRS or pay taxes on it. That’s undeniable intentional massive tax evasion, millions in tax liability he evaded, that is not just a removable crime but also serious prison time.
Gorshuch too.