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I disagree with Ron Paul on quiet a few things, but what he said there couldn't have echoed my own thoughts and words on the matter more closely. I'm glad someone like him is running on the republican side because of all places that's where those words need to be spoken the most.

Just don't be blind to the dems role in all of this. Bush took us to war with Iraq because both republicans and democrats gave him the thumbs up. Even though most of the dems in congress try to play it off like they are against this war...what have they done to stop it since they were put back in the majority?
One might argue that the true evil is not the republicans who supported this war then and now...but it's the dems who tell us they are against the war and how bad the republicans are who support it and yet they just stand to the side and do nothing to stop it.


Oh I'm not. My opinion of many of the democrats has been severely marred by their support of the war. I'm glad most of them are now against it, and support a withdraw, but it doesn't completely make up for their support in the first place. At the time all this was going down I didn't think they had the evidence to show it was certain Saddam had WMDs and that it was certain Al Qaeda and other terrorists were being trained and sponsored in Iraq. To me the evidence seemed to show they didn't have those things. But then i don't know what evidence congress and the senate was presented with, the Bush misinformation machine was certainly working at full steam back then.

More over post 9/11 is a time I like to refer to as, WHEN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY LOST ITS FUCKING MIND. Reason, logic and philosophy went straight out the damned window and the country seemed to act like a pack of feces flinging pissed off chimpanzees that mindless attacked anything that seemed remotely threatening. And now it seems the country is trying to collectively play it off, 'oh gee we were lied to'. I call bullshit on that excuse, everyone was too caught up in the fear mongering and cock waving to stop and think or to give a shit about principles. Frankly I think the entire country should feel ashamed about what happened here, I feel ashamed and I didn't even support the iraq war, I still called my freedom fries french fries, and I didn't assume Muslim was another word of murdering nutcase. I think the true evil is how the country reacted as whole, and how it continues to skirt around responsibility.

Ohh controversial topic!

All I know is that even chimpanzees reject their young when they're too old to breastfeed. Mother usually pushes the baby off even when the baby is screaming and crying.

So I'm guessing it's a natural thing. And What this woman is doing is unnatural me thinks.

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It takes a bit of time to explain, I recommend you read one or two books on evolution/natural selection to understand, but to give a brief answer as I can(in retrospect it got pretty long, sorry):

"Evolution by natural selection" means exactly what it says it means; all life on this planet, came about gradually, changing, evolving over vast stretches of time , and its always due to natural selection.

To take just one of the most familiar, most commonly mentioned, and most controversial (from a religious standpoint, mind you) Ourselves, Humans, we are a kind of ape, we are two-legged, walk upright and we have a bigger brain and less fur, but nevertheless we are an ape, just like the chimp, which is our closest relative. We did not "evolve from apes" we ARE apes. but about 6 million years ago, we and the chimpanzee's ancestor were the same kind of ape. Chimps went one way, and we another.

Now, lets for simplicity call this ape "apes" and ourselves "human", so that from now on, when I say "we went from ape to human" I mean those specific apes, 6 million years ago.

The thing is this: every individual born between right NOW and 6 million years ago were , in a sense, just like us. they had a mother and a father and they looked a bit like them too.. there was no one point where an "ape" gave birth to a human, because its a gradual process, you could travel back in time to any random spot, say 4.340.053 years ago, and youd find what looked not exactly ape, and not exactly human, but something in-between (And yes, they have found these things frozen: Lucy, little foot, etc) and there would be a mother and an offspring, no different from eachother than you or I am from our mothers.

And this goes for EVERY SINGLE CREATURE AND PLANT, on this planet.

Now, you might ask, what does this have to do with God?

Well the thing is, it can be shown, with vast amounts of evidence, that what I've just said is in fact true, we came about by evolution. Period. IF you were to INSERT God into the whole mess, it would simply be as an addition, and not a contribution. But more than that, it would actually be a CONTRADICTION, because if, we were to use "God" in any one stage of the whole natural selection logic, say if an "ape" gave birth to a completely "human" offspring some 300 thousand years ago, after God had decided things were to be so, we'd have a COMPLETELY different world at our hands.


The world, in short, would look as if it was designed/directed or controlled by god.

And intutively, thats exactly what it does. it looks designed..

But if we look deeper, the evidence shows something else, it shows, quite conclusively, that we were NOT created, or "guided" in evolution, we (as well as every other animal) appear to be the result of natural selection.

Natural selection also produces vasts amounts of "waste" on the evolutionary track, fro instance, if you made the trip back , say 4 million years, you could in theory meet our ancestors, which would be just one individual. but ofcourse, There would be an entire population, several thousand individuals why would to us look "half-ape" ultimately, only one of those thousands eventually become our ancestor. the rest may have long linages or some may not even reproduce to the next generation, but only one will be our specific ancestor.

The rest, in evolutionary terms, is "wasted" in a sense, you can almost look at individuals as keys, thousands, maybe millions of keys, but only one key unlocks the path to the most distant generations.

It is this enormously wasteful process that is able to unlock its way through evolution, we know what the fuel is: variation and mutation, and the engine is natural selection.

God would simply put sticks in these beautiful wheels, because allthough we can easily imagine that God makes a mutation happen or whatever, that sort-of puts us on the path, it seems ridiculous, when we know how these things REALLY work. Its like in the old days when we thought God made it rain or whatever, and ofcourse, God COULD have made it rain, its just that we have the right answer, which has to do with winds, sunlight, clouds, temperature and so on.

What I meant by my statement was that it is ofcourse POSSIBLE that God is there and intervenes and so on, there really just is no point in cramming him in there, since we have the real answers.

pan-kun is a chimpanzee, not a monkey.

maybe i will call you beetle instead of ant...

Given a chimpanzee, a dog and its from Asia, I'm upvoting before I watch.

There isn't any argument. It only makes sense that a big bang happened somehow from nothing, a cockroach got smarter, and somewhere down the line, chimpanzees learned the English language. I don't see any other possible explanation!

I wonder why the results were so polarized. I also wonder which type are we (mammals)?

Yes, we are mammals, more specifically primates: african, hairless apes, our closest living relative is the chimpanzee and the bonobo, (We do NOT decend FROM them, they decend from the same thing we decend from, we share ancestors) a little further back we share ancestors with orangutangs and monkeys, If we go all the way back, 3.5 billion years, we share ancestors with all living creatures, including the 99% that are currently extinct.

I am currently half-way through Dawkins' book "The Ancestor's Tale" which I think I can already safely say is an amazing book, that really puts things in a bit of a perspective, and it quite definitely answers those questions you are asking here

i love pan-kun and james!!

pan-kun is a chimpanzee, not a monkey, by the way...

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Carl Sagan wrote some interesting stuff about the phrase "fuck you". He reckons it comes from primate dominance games. Chimpanzees are constantly doing ritualized humping. Male/female, male/male, female/male, female/female.

No actual penetration, but just a little movement to kind of simulate it. The fucker is determined to be the dominant one in the relationship, while the fuckee is the the submissive. This is how they determine hierarchy.

Now, we don't go around ritualistically humping each other - but we have developed words - and "fuck you" has become our way of doing the dominance hump without actually doing it. The "I" is implied.

Disturbing. It's like if a person swallowed a live chimpanzee or something.

With a stretchy throat comes great responsibility?

We might all laugh but inside the chimpanzee is slowly dying.

Very funny. For the record, that is a Chimpanzee and not a monkey. (Someone had to say it.)

I don't like this all that much, but its okay. He talks like a youth minister. I do like your comments, bnsa. And angelsvn actually starts with a good comment, because the parts fitting is a silly, throw-away point.

Go to a zoo with Bonobo monkeys. They look very similar to chimps (sometimes called pygmy chimpanzees), but a larger part of their social interactions revolve around sex (hetero and homo) and masturbation than with chimps. I'm talking they spend like 50% of their day doing it. They're kinda gross animals,... but resolving conflicts with sex instead of fighting is pretty damn advanced if you ask me.

That's not a fuckin' MONKEY! It's a CHIMPANZEE!
Jezus! No wonder people still argue about Evolution; no one knows the difference between a Chimp and a Monkey!
They're not even CLOSE!