>> ^conan:

What? First Computer built in Iowa? Yeah Yeah Yeah, everything was invented in the US. It's like when we had exchange students from the states, asking us beforehand their trip if we have cheese and washing machines. First Computer was built in Berlin by Konrad Zuse. Bitches think they know IT :-)


You criticize Americans for claiming to have invented everything and then turn around and do it yourself. Zuse's claim to having the first "computer" is as tenuous as the Iowa claim. His Wikipedia article even says: "The first electronic computer (though not programmable) was the Atanasoff machine developed at Iowa State University during 1939-41."

Also, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_computing_hardware#Early_electronic_digital_computation which has a nice table of early computer features and has this disclaimer: "Defining a single point in the series as the "first computer" misses many subtleties"

Clearly there is a continuous progression of more and more modern looking digital computers during this era. I mean look at the Wikipedia articles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atanasoff%E2%80%93Berry_Computer -- was the first electronic digital computing device.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z3_%28computer%29 -- was the world's first working programmable, fully automatic computing machine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_computer -- was the world's first electronic, digital, programmable computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC -- was the first general-purpose electronic computer.

A similar thing happened in aviation, and I'll admit it's a bit silly that we Americans give the Wright brothers such ambiguous credit when there were so many researchers around the world doing nearly the same thing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_aviation_-_20th_century

>> ^conan:

What? First Computer built in Iowa? Yeah Yeah Yeah, everything was invented in the US. It's like when we had exchange students from the states, asking us beforehand their trip if we have cheese and washing machines. First Computer was built in Berlin by Konrad Zuse. Bitches think they know IT :-)


Again, define "invented" and "computer". I really don't think any one individual or even group can be said to have invented the computer, as it was a gradual evolution of ideas.

What? First Computer built in Iowa? Yeah Yeah Yeah, everything was invented in the US. It's like when we had exchange students from the states, asking us beforehand their trip if we have cheese and washing machines. First Computer was built in Berlin by Konrad Zuse. Bitches think they know IT :-)

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Tags for this video have been changed from 'we will force you to be free, adam curtis, bbc, liberty, control' to 'we will force you to be free, adam curtis, bbc, liberty, control, isaiah berlin' - edited by dystopianfuturetoday

why is he stood next to Berlin wall and why is this been recorded on a Phonograph cylinder ?

but nice.

*dead -- "'Elegant Music - Mozart Pian...' This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Stiftung Berliner Philharmoniker. Sorry about that."

>> ^jwray:

"Lying cunt" in what way?


look here! :-)

I always thought he pronounced "Berliner" right, but in this audio he dropped the 'r'. Also I never knew he spoke more "German" sentences. Sounds quite funny. (This is not a critique of Kennedy, just observations). He was da man.

Edit: Ah ok, at the end he pronounced it like in my memory (correctly).

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Ich Bin ein Berliner, jfk, jelly donut, germany' to 'Ich bin ein Berliner, jfk, jelly donut, germany, kennedy, 1963' - edited by DerHasisttot

You're right, the point here is (and I may be wrong about this because my German is far from perfect) that the term Berliner isn't used for both meanings (people from Berlin are not referred to as Berliners), The suffix 'er' suggests it's an adjective, a Berliner what? a Berliner man, a Berliner beer, etc... So even if there was no doughnut nicknamed 'Berliner' it would still sound kinda funny, more like saying "I am a big" instead of "I am a big man".

Not that I care much, just sayin'...

>> ^schlub:

This is so stupid. Just because SOME Germans refer to a particular confection as a "Berliner" doesn't mean that Kennedy's use is incorrect. It does NOT translate to "I am a jelly doughnut". That's idiotic. It would be like someone insisting that saying "I am a Canadian" means "I am a beer" since Molson Canadian beer is often referred to as "a Canadian"....

This is so stupid. Just because SOME Germans refer to a particular confection as a "Berliner" doesn't mean that Kennedy's use is incorrect. It does NOT translate to "I am a jelly doughnut". That's idiotic. It would be like someone insisting that saying "I am a Canadian" means "I am a beer" since Molson Canadian beer is often referred to as "a Canadian"....

>> ^Ryjkyj:

>> ^Kofi:
Has claimed .... has claimed ... has claimed

I realize that it is still very early in this case, and that a working cure for AIDS has not yet been found. But the word "claimed" is never said in this video at all, by anyone, so I'm curious where you're getting that from? Could it be that you're having a knee-jerk reaction because all the "cure" claims for so many other afflictions that float around the internet? Although this is only one case, the news is still huge.


It really is a cure, not just claimed. The catch is the kind of complete marrow transplant he underwent has a ridiculously high mortality rate. In point of fact, for most patients, their survivability is much, much better just staying on standard HIV treatments, even if it means never being fully cured.

>> ^Kofi:

Has claimed .... has claimed ... has claimed


I realize that it is still very early in this case, and that a working cure for AIDS has not yet been found. But the word "claimed" is never said in this video at all, by anyone, so I'm curious where you're getting that from? Could it be that you're having a knee-jerk reaction because all the "cure" claims for so many other afflictions that float around the internet? Although this is only one case, the news is still huge.

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You'll probably like Source Code. It's a tight SF thriller- a bit on the short side - and a little more mainstreamy than Moon - but still good and validates Duncan as someone who can direct a fairly complicated movie and have it make sense to to a general audience without dumbing it down.

I wish someone good would do a reboot of Bladerunner making a version more true to the original book Do Andriods Dream of Electric Sheep which had so much more in it: