If Seymour Hersch is quoted correctly I can imagine quite some backlash from releasing the footage he refers to:

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2004/07/15/hersh/
"This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out.""

The only problem I have with this is that William Ayers was fucking right.

He's been proven right countless times.

The Pentagon was lying. Daniel Ellsberg and Seymour Hersh took great risks to shine the light there, as did many thousands of others.

And millions of civilians died, at the hands of the Pentagon, and Ayers didn't kill one single person.

I love to see Hannity shit his pants, but this is yet another example of pussy Democrats shitting on their supporters to appease their opponents.

Who did the voiceover? Why, it sounds like Armen Tamzarian Principal Seymour Skinner.

^ John C Reilly, Paul Giamatti, and Phillip Seymour Hoffman are easily my fav 3 actors. Always a great performance.

Interviewed by Philip Seymour Hoffman no less!

I'll wait here like Frys dog Seymour

"The Baluchis are Sunni fundamentalists who hate the regime in Tehran, but you can also describe them as Al Qaeda, " Baer told me. "These are guys who cut off the heads of nonbelievers--in this case, it's Shiite Iranians. The irony is that we're once again working with Sunni fundamentalists, just as we did in Afghanistan in the nineteen eighties." Ramzi Yousef, who was convicted for his role in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is considered one of the leading planners of the September 11th attacks, are Baluchi Sunni Fundamentalists.

The New Yorker, July 7 & 14 2008
Seymour M. Hersh, "Annals of National Security", page 65.

Weird you have lazy moths where you live lol. Actually they're probably all like that I just never pay attention to any of them. At first I thought you named it Seymour butts ha. Isn't that a porno dude? Anyways Walmart's the only place you could go to buy prenatal vitamins and end up leaving with a venus flytrap ha.

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I tried and failed at the bonsai thing.. no patience and a black thumb, so I figured a carnivorous plant would appreciate me more. I read I shouldn't have fed it moths, incidentally, LOL. I was catching them with tweezers while they dozed by the lamp..

I named the plant Seymour because that plant made his life hell in Little Shop of Horrors.

Got the flytrap at Walmart, of all freaking places.. Went in to buy prenatal vitamins, left with a flesh-eating plant. Hrm, gotta work on my motherly priorities....... .....heh

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Oh what I want one! I'm not a plant person but I've always wanted a venus flytrap or a bonzai tree. But yah did you name it? I don't think I've ever caught a moth before ha, you must be lightening fast!

In reply to this comment by UsesProzac:
It's going! Bought a venus flytrap plant and he's eating all the moths I've been catching. YEY!

In reply to this comment by FrstSecThird:
HOWDY! Lol. How's your day going?

In reply to this comment by UsesProzac:
AHOY.

I tried and failed at the bonsai thing.. no patience and a black thumb, so I figured a carnivorous plant would appreciate me more. I read I shouldn't have fed it moths, incidentally, LOL. I was catching them with tweezers while they dozed by the lamp..

I named the plant Seymour because that plant made his life hell in Little Shop of Horrors.

Got the flytrap at Walmart, of all freaking places.. Went in to buy prenatal vitamins, left with a flesh-eating plant. Hrm, gotta work on my motherly priorities....... .....heh

In reply to this comment by FrstSecThird:
Oh what I want one! I'm not a plant person but I've always wanted a venus flytrap or a bonzai tree. But yah did you name it? I don't think I've ever caught a moth before ha, you must be lightening fast!

In reply to this comment by UsesProzac:
It's going! Bought a venus flytrap plant and he's eating all the moths I've been catching. YEY!

In reply to this comment by FrstSecThird:
HOWDY! Lol. How's your day going?

In reply to this comment by UsesProzac:
AHOY.

I cant talk about myself, because my I'm a paranoid white hat programmer, as well as a former private security contractor (not the black water kind), I can say that there are safe posts and dangerous posts. The dangerous ones are the posts where it's 2 am in the morning and you ain't got no got damned coffee, not to mention at 2 am many of us will begin to have hallucinations and waking dreams.

I have bachelor of arts in Game Design (Electronic), and I hold low rank in ASU Aikido.

I play a fender squire with Seymour Duncan pickups on a 65 watt crate amp.

As Mr Frisk has I have also driven across the united states thrice, which I will never do again!

I'm a big bad mofo, but Silent Hill games scare the shit out of me.

My language of choice: C#, rijndael managed 1028 bit:

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^Ah yes, the final season of FKL legends Francois Fancypants and Seymour 'kick-ball-chain' Sashay. So tragic how they died together in that burning antique shop.

It's the may/may not that bothers me about this administration. They have an idea about what they want to do, and it's set in stone. Then, when they're trying to make up some bogus reason for invading a nation, it always ends up being a debatable reason. Saddam may or may hot have weapons that he may or may not use on us. al-Qaeda may or may not be in Iraq. They may or may not have went to Niger to buy uranium. Gays may or may not want to destroy marriage by demanding it for themselves. Democrats may or may not be Satan worshipping sodomites.

It never ends. (Especially with religious twits.)

>> ^NordlichReiter:
my family thinks its the end times.
They plead with me to believe in god. So the conservative religious types think its ok to treat non citizens like crap, just because they may or may not be enemy combatants. Now we are attacking a country that might may or may not have a Nuke that can or cannot damage targets by button fire?
This stuff here makes me cringe.

All of the actors played a different Bond, they all had their strengths, and they were all appropriate to their time. Moore was more of the suave debonair 70's - 80's Bond, as opposed to Connery's 60's overtly masculine image. Even underrated Lazenby was somewhere in the middle. I've loved them all, even Dalton.

And Live and Let Die is still one of my favorites, despite this crazy sequence.

Mmm... Jane Seymour!

-- continued.

One year after the US-instigated coup, President Gerald Ford - in the oval office thanks to some domestic White House "black ops" that garnered unfavorable attention in the imperial homeland (Watergate) - claimed that US actions in installing Pinochet were "in the best interests of the people of Chile and certainly in our own best interests."


Historical Connections

Twenty-eight years to the day after Chile's 9/11, the world witnessed a different, more spectacular form of unimaginable violence, broadcast live on national TV, with different ideological and geo-political parameters. The culprits were almost certainly based in the extremist Islamic terror networks of the Middle East.

There are some interesting, dark connections, however, between these two Nine-Elevens. The US policy of deterring democracy and social justice in the perceived interest of US multinational corporations and world capitalism was hardly restricted to Chile and the official Cold War era (1945-1991). In pursuit of the same basic goals that informed the US/Pinochet coup, the US has supported and in some cases conducted anti-democratic coups against excessively (from a US perspective) "left" governments (any state that proposed to encourage development of its sovereign territory in significant autonomy from the US-dominated world capitalist economic system) in Syria (1949), Iran (1953), Iraq (1963), Indonesia (1965), and Greece (1967). It provided massive economic and military assistance to authoritarian Middle Eastern regimes that suppressed democratic and left opposition and kept their domestic economies open to foreign and especially US corporate penetration and domination. It armed Israel, waged war and enforced a deadly, decade-long sanctions campaign against Iraq, stationed troops indefinitely in the Islamic Holy Land, and provided cover for Israel's prolonged, racist annexation of Palestinian territory. The US funded the Arab far-right, supporting arch-reactionary Islamic extremists like Osama bin Laden, valued as weapons in the same Cold War that provided cover for the US campaign to crush national self-determination, democracy, and social justice in places like Iran, Vietnam, Nicaragua, and Chile.

By largely eliminating the left, undercutting democracy, and generally subjecting regional developments to imperial fiat both during and after the official Cold War, the US shrunk the available space for "normal" (Western-style/parliamentary) airing of social, political and related international grievances in the Middle East. This, in turn, brought "blowback" (an internal CIA term for the unintended consequences of secret US foreign policies) from America's imperial periphery to the skies and streets of New York City and Washington DC, where Pinochet's henchmen (part of a CIA-sponsored team of international assassins code-named "Operation Condor") killed a former Allende supporter and his American driver (Olando Letelier and Randy Moffit) in 1976. How darkly appropriate, then, that George W. Bush attempted to put Kissinger, a leading perpetrator in the state-terrorist events of 9/11/73, at the head of a federal commission to investigate US security lapses prior to 9/11/2001, which opened the door for new levels of US and US-sponsored state terrorism.


Worthy and Unworthy 9/11s

Of course, only a tiny percentage of the US population knows about Chile's 9/11, for reasons that go beyond obvious gaps of time, geography, and language. A relevant explanatory text here is the second chapter, titled "Worthy and Unworthy Victims," of Noam Chomsky and Ed Herman's Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of The Mass Media (New York, NY: Pantheon, 1988), published as the Cold War was nearing its partial conclusion with the collapse of the Soviet deterrent (itself part of the context for 9/11/2001) to American global ambitions. "A propaganda system," the authors noted, "will consistently portray people abused in enemy states as worthy victims, whereas those treated with equal or greater severity by its own government or clients will be unworthy." Identified with the official US Cold War "enemy" force of socialism or Marxism - really social egalitarianism and national self-determination (still the basic adversaries of US policy in the "post-Cold-War era") - Pinochet's victims have only recently attained a small measure of historical worthiness in dominant US corporate-state media. This slight retrospective legitimacy comes far too long after the terrible facts. It is no match for the worthiness bestowed on the most officially precious victims in US History: the Americans who died on the only 9/11 that matters in a nation that drifts through history in a dangerous fog of selective, top-down remembrance.


Paul Street (pstreet@cul-chicago.org) will speak on "State-Run Media" on Friday, September 26, 2003 at a conference titled "Is Our Media Serving Us?" at Columbia College, Hokin Annex, 623 S. Wabash, Chicago, IL, 12:45 PM.


Appendix: Selected Sources on US Involvement in 9/11/73 and Related Developments in Chile

US Senate, Select Committee to Study Government Operations With Respect to Intelligence Activities, Covert Action in Chile, 1963-1973 (Washington DC: Government Printing Office, 1975); United States Congress, Select Committee to Study Government Operations With Respect to Intelligence Activities, Interim Report: Alleged Assassination Plots Involving Foreign Leaders, 94th Congress, 1st Session, November 10, 1975 (Washington DC: Government Printing Office, 1975); William Blum, The CIA: A Forgotten History (London: Zed, 1986), pp. 232-243; Seymour M. Hersh, "The Price of Power: Kissinger, Nixon, and Chile," Atlantic Monthly, 250 (1982), no. 6, 21-58; Poul Jensen, The Garotte: The United States and Chile, 1970-73 (Aarhus, Denmark: Aarhus University Press, 1988); Christopher Hitchens, The Trial of Henry Kissinger (New York, NY: Verso, 2001), pp. 55-76; "Why Is the U.S. Mum About Pinochet?," CNN.com (November 25, 1998), available online at http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9 811/25/pinochet.us/; National Security Archives, The Chile Documentation Project (2000-2001), available online at http://www.gwu.edu/~ nsarchiv/latin_america/chile.htm.

Philip Seymour Hoffman is great, isn't he? Actually, so is Catherine Keener I reckon.