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The Oath of Fëanor

gorillaman says...

When Morgoth in that day of doom
had slain the trees and filled with gloom
the shining land of Valinor,
there Fëanor and his sons then swore
the mighty oath upon the hill
of tower-crownéd Tún, that still
wrought wars and sorrow in the world.
From darkling seas the fogs unfurled
their blinding shadows grey and cold
where Glingal once had bloomed with gold
and Belthil bore its silver flowers.
The mists were mantled round the towers
of the Elves' white city by the sea.
There countless torches fitfully
did start and twinkle, as the Gnomes
were gathered to their fading homes,
and thronged the long and winding stair
that led to the wide echoing square.

There Fëanor mourned his jewels divine
the Silmarils he made. Like wine
his wild and potent words them fill;
a great host harkens deathly still.
But all he said both wild and wise,
half truth and half the fruit of lies
that Morgoth sowed in Valinor,
in other songs and other lore
recorded is. He bade them flee
from lands divine, to cross the sea,
the pathless plains, the perilous shores
where ice-infested water roars;
to follow Morgoth to the unlit earth
leaving their dwellings and olden mirth;
to go back to the Outer Lands
to wars and weeping. There their hands
they joined in vows, those kinsmen seven,
swearing beneath the stars of Heaven,
by Varda the Holy that them wrought
and bore them each with radiance fraught
and set them in the deeps to flame.
Timbrenting's holy height they name,
whereon are built the timeless halls
of Manwë Lord of Gods. Who calls
these names in witness may not break
his oath, though earth and heaven shake.

Curufin, and Celegorm the fair,
Damrod and Díriel were there,
and Cranthir dark, and Maidros tall
(whom after torment should befall),
and Maglor the mighty who like the sea
with deep voice sings yet mournfully.
'Be he friend or foe, or seed defiled
of Morgoth Bauglir, or mortal child
that in after days on earth shall dwell,
no law, nor love, nor league of hell,
nor might of Gods, nor moveless fate
shall defend him from wrath and hate
of Fëanor's sons, who takes and steals
or finding keeps the Silmarils,
the thrice-enchanted globes of light
that shine until the final night.'

This Aerobic Video Wins Everything

oritteropo says...

It was 1976 that there was kerfuffle over the East German womens swim team and doping... when it was pointed out that the girls had rather deep voices, a DDR official said, "we came here to swim, not to sing."

Payback said:

I'm pretty sure we had testosterone back in the early 80s.

I might be wrong though.

Diablo Tristram Theme

Praetor says...

First time I played Diablo:

Got down to the second level of the relatively empty Cathedral, opened a random door, caught a glimpse of mutilated bodies and blood covering the walls, heard a deep voice go "Ahh, Fresh Meat."

Slammed the door shut and sprinted back up to the surface.

Amazing Voice Impressions - Jake Foushee

Dan Savage on What to Expect From a Gay Roommate

shatterdrose says...

Um, what he's saying is quantified over and over again. Gay guys talking in a higher, more feminine voice, is nothing new and nothing special. It's the same reason straight women do. It's part of biology. Deep voice = masculinity while higher voice = femininity.

If the gay guy has been repressing himself to fit in with what society expects him to, he's probably learned to talk in a higher pitched voice against his natural urges. For instance, go talk to a baby or a little kid. Listen to what you do to your voice. Did someone teach you to do that? No. It's a natural instinct because we naturally find higher pitched voices less intimidating and more feminine.

Now, that's not to say all gay guys are feminine. Some are very masculine and would retain a deeper voice, only they find other guys attractive. Hell, they may still find a higher pitched voice attractive. Nothing strange, unusual or weird about it. It just happens.

VoodooV said:

Yeah I have to admit. The whole voice thing is like the one thing that still kinda nags at me about homosexuality.

go nuts with the same sex thing... but WTF does the pitch of your voice have to do with homosexuality?

anyone know if what savage says is true or is he just speculating? I always assumed it was a sociological thing and a manifestation of counterculture and that it would eventually go away as gays are accepted and treated like everyone else

RhesusMonk (Member Profile)

Barseps says...

If the guy's got expertise in that department, then fair play to him..... I just posted the video 'cos I liked the video.

Once again HUGE thanks for the promote
In reply to this comment by RhesusMonk:
Welcome. I just love that voice. I stepped in it when I tried to set max straight, tho. What a troll!

In reply to this comment by Barseps:
Thanks for the promote bud :

In reply to this comment by RhesusMonk:
I hate to call you out, but the unlikeliness of this guy's voice is what makes this so incredibly *promote-able.


Barseps (Member Profile)

Deep Voiced "Sixteen Tons" Acapella.

RhesusMonk says...

Disagreeing is not fighting, troll.

See 0:50-1:00 here.

>> ^MaxWilder:

>> ^RhesusMonk:
No one asked you to defend anything, bub. Didn't mean to pick a fight.>> ^MaxWilder:
>> ^RhesusMonk:
I'm pretty sure I know why you don't think this is real (whether you're aware of it or not), and it has nothing to do with nuance. Play it again. (a) The voice does doppler as he moves to and from the mic; (b) There is not a single moment where the lips or Adam's Apple are not perfectly in sync with the recording (a near impossibility while lip-syncing, especially with this guy's idiosyncratic syncopation); (c) The acoustics in that auditorium are excellent (considering how loud the performers' snaps come through), which may explain the reduced dopplering that you experienced; (d) It is very unlikely that the mic in the video is the only device through which the recording was made, which again explains reduced doppler effect. I hate to call you out, but the unlikeliness of this guy's voice is what makes this so incredibly promote-able.>> ^MaxWilder:
I find it hard to believe this is real. Not because he doesn't "look" like he could have that kind of voice, but because the sound of his voice is rock solid and extremely nuanced while the man is nowhere near the mic and constantly changing position. I could totally be wrong, but I don't think you get that kind of recording outside of a studio.
Edit: Awesome version of this song, whoever actually sang it.


You're pretty sure of my deep inner beliefs? Pray tell, what are they?
Also, moving toward/away from a mic should cause change in volume, not a noticeable doppler effect. He would have to be running past the microphone for that to happen.
And since I explicitly said "I could totally be wrong" I see no need to defend my opinions, which are my honest opinions and I stand behind them after multiple viewings.


Ok... contradicting everything I said, claiming to know what I'm actually thinking is different from what I posted, and then using the phrase "call you out"... and you didn't mean to pick a fight? I think perhaps you need to consider your words a tiny bit more before hitting that "submit" button.

Deep Voiced "Sixteen Tons" Acapella.

MaxWilder says...

>> ^RhesusMonk:

No one asked you to defend anything, bub. Didn't mean to pick a fight.>> ^MaxWilder:
>> ^RhesusMonk:
I'm pretty sure I know why you don't think this is real (whether you're aware of it or not), and it has nothing to do with nuance. Play it again. (a) The voice does doppler as he moves to and from the mic; (b) There is not a single moment where the lips or Adam's Apple are not perfectly in sync with the recording (a near impossibility while lip-syncing, especially with this guy's idiosyncratic syncopation); (c) The acoustics in that auditorium are excellent (considering how loud the performers' snaps come through), which may explain the reduced dopplering that you experienced; (d) It is very unlikely that the mic in the video is the only device through which the recording was made, which again explains reduced doppler effect. I hate to call you out, but the unlikeliness of this guy's voice is what makes this so incredibly promote-able.>> ^MaxWilder:
I find it hard to believe this is real. Not because he doesn't "look" like he could have that kind of voice, but because the sound of his voice is rock solid and extremely nuanced while the man is nowhere near the mic and constantly changing position. I could totally be wrong, but I don't think you get that kind of recording outside of a studio.
Edit: Awesome version of this song, whoever actually sang it.


You're pretty sure of my deep inner beliefs? Pray tell, what are they?
Also, moving toward/away from a mic should cause change in volume, not a noticeable doppler effect. He would have to be running past the microphone for that to happen.
And since I explicitly said "I could totally be wrong" I see no need to defend my opinions, which are my honest opinions and I stand behind them after multiple viewings.



Ok... contradicting everything I said, claiming to know what I'm actually thinking is different from what I posted, and then using the phrase "call you out"... and you didn't mean to pick a fight? I think perhaps you need to consider your words a tiny bit more before hitting that "submit" button.

Deep Voiced "Sixteen Tons" Acapella.

RhesusMonk says...

No one asked you to defend anything, bub. Didn't mean to pick a fight.
If anyone else is in doubt, see 0:50-1:00 here.

>> ^MaxWilder:

>> ^RhesusMonk:
I'm pretty sure I know why you don't think this is real (whether you're aware of it or not), and it has nothing to do with nuance. Play it again. (a) The voice does doppler as he moves to and from the mic; (b) There is not a single moment where the lips or Adam's Apple are not perfectly in sync with the recording (a near impossibility while lip-syncing, especially with this guy's idiosyncratic syncopation); (c) The acoustics in that auditorium are excellent (considering how loud the performers' snaps come through), which may explain the reduced dopplering that you experienced; (d) It is very unlikely that the mic in the video is the only device through which the recording was made, which again explains reduced doppler effect. I hate to call you out, but the unlikeliness of this guy's voice is what makes this so incredibly promote-able.>> ^MaxWilder:
I find it hard to believe this is real. Not because he doesn't "look" like he could have that kind of voice, but because the sound of his voice is rock solid and extremely nuanced while the man is nowhere near the mic and constantly changing position. I could totally be wrong, but I don't think you get that kind of recording outside of a studio.
Edit: Awesome version of this song, whoever actually sang it.


You're pretty sure of my deep inner beliefs? Pray tell, what are they?
Also, moving toward/away from a mic should cause change in volume, not a noticeable doppler effect. He would have to be running past the microphone for that to happen.
And since I explicitly said "I could totally be wrong" I see no need to defend my opinions, which are my honest opinions and I stand behind them after multiple viewings.

Deep Voiced "Sixteen Tons" Acapella.

MaxWilder says...

>> ^RhesusMonk:

I'm pretty sure I know why you don't think this is real (whether you're aware of it or not), and it has nothing to do with nuance. Play it again. (a) The voice does doppler as he moves to and from the mic; (b) There is not a single moment where the lips or Adam's Apple are not perfectly in sync with the recording (a near impossibility while lip-syncing, especially with this guy's idiosyncratic syncopation); (c) The acoustics in that auditorium are excellent (considering how loud the performers' snaps come through), which may explain the reduced dopplering that you experienced; (d) It is very unlikely that the mic in the video is the only device through which the recording was made, which again explains reduced doppler effect. I hate to call you out, but the unlikeliness of this guy's voice is what makes this so incredibly promote-able.>> ^MaxWilder:
I find it hard to believe this is real. Not because he doesn't "look" like he could have that kind of voice, but because the sound of his voice is rock solid and extremely nuanced while the man is nowhere near the mic and constantly changing position. I could totally be wrong, but I don't think you get that kind of recording outside of a studio.
Edit: Awesome version of this song, whoever actually sang it.



You're pretty sure of my deep inner beliefs? Pray tell, what are they?

Also, moving toward/away from a mic should cause change in volume, not a noticeable doppler effect. He would have to be running past the microphone for that to happen.

And since I explicitly said "I could totally be wrong" I see no need to defend my opinions, which are my honest opinions and I stand behind them after multiple viewings.

RhesusMonk (Member Profile)

Deep Voiced "Sixteen Tons" Acapella.

RhesusMonk says...

I'm pretty sure I know why you don't think this is real (whether you're aware of it or not), and it has nothing to do with nuance. Play it again. (a) The voice does doppler as he moves to and from the mic; (b) There is not a single moment where the lips or Adam's Apple are not perfectly in sync with the recording (a near impossibility while lip-syncing, especially with this guy's idiosyncratic syncopation); (c) The acoustics in that auditorium are excellent (considering how loud the performers' snaps come through), which may explain the reduced dopplering that you experienced; (d) It is very unlikely that the mic in the video is the only device through which the recording was made, which again explains reduced doppler effect. I hate to call you out, but the unlikeliness of this guy's voice is what makes this so incredibly *promote-able.>> ^MaxWilder:

I find it hard to believe this is real. Not because he doesn't "look" like he could have that kind of voice, but because the sound of his voice is rock solid and extremely nuanced while the man is nowhere near the mic and constantly changing position. I could totally be wrong, but I don't think you get that kind of recording outside of a studio.
Edit: Awesome version of this song, whoever actually sang it.

RhesusMonk (Member Profile)

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