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Hagel Tells Congress "You want a safe job? Go sell shoes"

k8_fan says...

Before falling in love with this guy, you might take a moment and find out a bit about who he is and how he got elected. Specifically, he was head of ES&S - the voting machine company. And he was elected in an election that used those specific machines. And won by a large margin. And the results didn't match the exit polls.

Rated 100% by the Christian Coalition
Rated 0% by NARAL
• Voted NO on allowing reimportation of Rx drugs from Canada.
• Voted YES on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)
• Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
• Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)
• Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
• Voted NO on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)
• Voted YES on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)
• Supports anti-flag desecration amendment.
• Voted NO on repealing tax subsidy for companies which move US jobs offshore.
• Voted YES on restricting rules on personal bankruptcy.
• Voted NO on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. (Mar 2005)
• Voted YES on Bush Administration Energy Policy.
• Voted NO on including oil & gas smokestacks in mercury regulations.
• Voted NO on establishing the Senate Office of Public Integrity.

Cargo Plane Crash at Airshow (21 secs)

Krupo says...

LOL, it's cool, I totally understand your POV, just sharing mine. We sometimes have the 'funnest' debates on VS, I find.

If this was a chopper crash, I'd agree, b/c my amateur online flight simming makes it obvious to me how lethal that can be.

While this had the potential to be lethal, esp with the explosion, the fuselage looked intact at the end, lending me enough thought to believe that it was survivable.

Same idea with car crashes - I *will* go "eeeeeiiieee" when I see photage of a horrific wreck. Sometimes you'll see a bloody smear, and it's downright sobering. Conversely, sometimes the car's a write-off and yet the people walk away.

It's both amazing and a reason to pause for thought.

If anything, exposure to the reality of car crashes can be a wake-up call to people with a propensity to drive recklessly to be a bit more careful - people have an unfortunate tendency to feel 'indesctructible'... you can rightly argue that exposing them to factors - including crash videos - which temper their Need for Speed is a Good Thing.

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Completely unrelated sidenote: I just noticed ender has hit 2000 votes. Since that meaningless fact will be oblierated in as soon as a few seconds, I thought I'd point it out now and celebrate it...

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