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39 Comments
petpeevedsays...Call me crazy, call me what you will, but this disgusted me.
What on earth is funny about two dogs trying in vain to establish a natural hierarchy of dominance in an unnatural environment and being left with no choice but to rip each other to shreds by their demonic owners?
/vomit
westysays...>> ^petpeeved:
Call me crazy, call me what you will, but this disgusted me.
What on earth is funny about two dogs trying in vain to establish a natural hierarchy of dominance in an unnatural environment and being left with no choice but to rip each other to shreds by their demonic owners?
/vomit
lol you fail
petpeevedsays...Such a thoughtful post. Thank you for your contribution.
Does it really take a lot of imagination to realize that you have to teach dogs to kill each other in this fashion? I'm sure eventually those men managed to overcome the dog's natural instincts and they got the bloodsport they wanted. Still not sure what is funny about what amounts to the first phase in training a dog for fights.
I can see how you might mistake mounting for 'love' since the video was so cleverly overdubbed with a love song but if you don't anthropomorphize it, it actually makes it even sadder when the humans take the last avenue of peacemaking left to the two animals, leaving them trapped with no alternatives to fighting.
robbersdog49says...I'm with petpeeved here, there's nothing funny about dog fighting. This really isn't something I think should be on the sift. Bloodsports are just sick and wrong, not funny in any way.
necrontyrsays...I think I have downvoted maybe one other video ever, but I gotta say Arvana, this one is not what I would call sift appropriate. It doesn't break the rules, but it offends a lot of sensibilities here.
I'll say that I neither condemn nor condone and not downvote.
KnivesOutsays...Why the stigma about downvoting? It's just a vote, and it's just a sift. If you don't think it should be on the sift, then that's worth down-voting.
Down-voted and proud of it. This is a video of dog's either fighting or fucking, and neither is worthy of being here.
westysays...I guess if you cannot see the funny side then you probably just fail in gneral.
Regardless of u stance on animal crulty its ironic that the people r trying to get the dogs to fight and the dogs just want to sniff eachothers bums and hump.
if annything it gose in the face of dog fighting.
allso this video in no way indorses dog fighting.
seems like some of you guys are the typs of people that cannot find humor in things Because it is within a context you disagree with or find offencive.
Ultimetly thats your loss.
I personaly think we should laff at and enjoy eveything we can evan if its something negative and then make sure to try and improve things. for example you can still hate and fight against blood sports and find this amusing.
Being able to find humor in negative ( or percivably) nagitive situatoins is a incredably vauable skill. there have been manny instances where people have been in desperate situatoins and the only resoin the didnt give up was becuse of a sence of humor.
Infact Our mear exsistence is pritty dam hilarouse in a hopeless and ironic way.
Psychologicsays...Predators have evolved methods of resolving disputes that do not result in severe mutual injury.
People seek to circumvent these methods for entertainment and/or money.
I can find no humor in this situation.
imstellar28says...If you don't think this is funny you are either a huge pussy or you didn't watch the whole video.
arvanasays...Yay! It's been a long time since any of my submissions got this controversial.
*promote
siftbotsays...Self promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Saturday, March 20th, 2010 9:56pm PDT - promote requested by original submitter arvana.
GenjiKilpatricksays...omg. your peta-head anti-type comments are really making me sick. ..mostly because I have to admit to agreeing with Westy, and his awful spelling, on this.
First, I'm pretty sure no one on the sift enjoys forced violence. Forcing dogs to fight is like forcing little kids to fight to the death and that's fucked up and blah blah blah wah wah wah. Yes, we get that.
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However, if you DID force little kids to fight in a thunder dome like setting ..then all of sudden..
they started climbing the walls, falling down playing tag or eating dirt and boogers like it were recess fun happy play time. Same thing here.
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You guys get that the intent of the video was to film a vicious brutal bloody dog fight..
but reality was something more deserving of a little benny hill music.
Hence the hilarity and sift-worthy nature. =P
rottenseedsays...They seem to follow the same pattern my girlfriend and I do...fight, fuck, fight, fuck, fight, mouth hump, etc...
StealthNucksays...Really, videosift? This is disgusting. I can't believe any of you condone this or even find it amusing.
Skeevesays...I'm going to have to side with those that are against this video. While I do find it rather comical that the dogs turned the tables on their fucked-up owners, it's still a video of a dog fight. Dog fighting is illegal for a reason and it doesn't matter how funny the outcome is we should all be doing our part to make sure it stops, even if that just means not watching their 'promotional' material.
Also, just one little tidbit of information for you who support it: in 2001 a man from Virginia was sentenced to 30 months in prison for transmitting images of fighting dogs across state lines. Putting up the video isn't just disgraceful, it could also be illegal if you are in the US.
Paybacksays...Ya, said something I hoped was funny then thought about it. The truth of the matter is both of these dogs were probably put to death after this. Yea, not funny.
harrysays...It seems a lot of us missed the memo that declared mistreatment of dogs as 'teh funny'.
JiggaJonsonsays...I too was very conflicted about voting for this video, in the end I ended up upvoting if for no other reason than to continue the provocative discussion on the topic.
KnivesOutsays...Fuck you jaded shitbags. This is a dogfight. I down-voted because it's disgusting, and because the tags are terrible as well. Sports? Really?
You can call it a "useful skill" to be so desensitized by violence to call this comedy, but I call it pathetic.
The only thing failing here is your humanity.
moodoniasays...I'm amazed to see this on videosift.
Payback is correct, dogs that dont fight get killed, probably happened to these two minutes later. Theres a lot of money changes hands between the sick fucks that enjoy dogfighting, and dogs that lose, or worse still, dont even fight, are killed.
Theres also the fact that these two dogs made their tiny-dicked owners look like fools in front of an audience.
Go watch some videos about dogfighting if you think this is funny and watch dogs being beaten to death or electrocuted or drowned for doing a "better" job than these two.
Sick and disgusting.
gwiz665says...I like the idea of it turning on its head, but dog fighting is just barbaric. While I see the funny part of them disobeying their owners and being all lovey dovey, and the music shifts, the poor dogs are broken for life and will probably die in that ring or a similar one if they haven't already.
I'd rather not glamorize dog fighting by making this more popular. So downvote.
enemycombatantsays...I didn't like the video but I think its attempt at humor is mostly immature and all its implications weren't necessarily well thought out or intended by the creator. I don't think the video or author condone dog fighting. The video shows a more happy ending than one would expect in the situation and in that respect it may be humorously surprising.
That being said, I could not disagree more with those arguing with KnivesOut.
Draxsays...Wish I could downvote the video and at least one comment here, but at least others did it already.
burdturglersays...*nochannel *Catsanddogs *Wtf *Terrible *Controversy
siftbotsays...This video has been removed from all channels (Catsanddogs, Sports, Music, Comedy, Controversy) due to invalid channel assignment - nochannel invoked by burdturgler. Please review the FAQ to learn about appropriate channel assignments.
Adding video to channels (Catsanddogs, Controversy, Terrible, Wtf) - requested by burdturgler.
UsesProzacsays...*music
siftbotsays...Adding video to channels (Music) - requested by UsesProzac.
laurasays...those are some BIG ASS DOGS!!!
...I almost got sick at what was being done with/to them in this vid, hence the downnie
rottenseedsays...I upvoted this whole video because I couldn't upvote my awesome comment.
lesserfoolsays...Fuck the audience, the trainers, and anyone who laughed but not in a sensitive way like I did. Upvoted for the emotional roller coaster, that was powerful.
westysays...So much fail .
like people who dont find chriss moris funny because of his pedophile specail.
Interlectualy dammaged ,
allso all you people getting so emotoinal over this , i bet a good number of you eat meat and probably dont bother to check where its come from , for all you know your sat here complaining about dogs bing miss treated for no real resoin and at the same time suporting an industry that porely looks after animals miss treets them and then kills them for you to eat them. (granted growing cretures for meet is difrent from growing them for fighting and entertainment , but in our socity of surpluss food meat is often used in food that is purely intended for entertainment rather than sustinence)
I can almost garentee that people that are affended by this and fail to see or evan admit there is a funny side to it , are likely to have laffed at or made a joke about something that is equaly as deprvied or from a far more distubing context.
I hazerd to bet that a good number of you are emotoinaly invested in this purly because its dogs and in your socity dogs are dispropotoinatly respected
and loved.
mxxconsays...Beside of what happens with the dogs, it's pretty disgusting to see how well organized it is.
Large, open, fenced off area, so many spectators, judges
Those dogs weren't all "lovey". That was a dominating humping, not sex. Nature has hard-wired your dog's brain to link sexual behavior and dominant, aggressive behavior.
KnivesOutsays...>> ^westy:
So much fail...This is an entirely meaningless argument you're making.
You're betting? You've got a hunch? You would hazard a guess?
Meaningless. At best, a vain defense of your own depravity.
Draxsays...Westy, I'm against animal cruelty where I see it. Yes there are despicably animal meat packing plants, but there's been a shift in treating animals more humanely over here. Maybe it's a small smart, I dunno. Whatever it is it's a good start. And I bet there's at least one vegetarian amongst the video sift crew. I have several who are friends.
I see an organized dog fighting competition and I have an ill reaction to it.
You don't, least in this case.
I'm not going to stand on some moral high ground and chastise you for your lack of empathy or anyone else, because yes there's a humorous side to this video. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it, and that doesn't mean I think any less of anyone who laughed at the dogs going at it in 'I'm a r'over nor't a fighr'ter' sort of dog way.
You're the one being an asshat here right now though. If I don't think the same exact way you do about something controversial, I'm fail. Apparently also I'm a pussy.
Better then being an asshole. ,,i,,
westysays...>> ^KnivesOut:
>> ^westy:
So much fail...This is an entirely meaningless argument you're making.
You're betting? You've got a hunch? You would hazard a guess?
Meaningless. At best, a vain defense of your own depravity.
lol your the moron that Qutes only the top part of a comment. and then atacks it.
I promote you to epic fail.
KnivesOutsays...>> ^westy:
>> ^KnivesOut:
>> ^westy:
So much fail...This is an entirely meaningless argument you're making.
You're betting? You've got a hunch? You would hazard a guess?
Meaningless. At best, a vain defense of your own depravity.
lol your the moron that Qutes only the top part of a comment. and then atacks it.
I promote you to epic fail.
Actually I just didn't want to quote your entire diatribe of meaningless bullshit. It's up there for anyone to see, why repeat it? Everything you say is meaningless, most of all your "epic fail" nonsense.
westysays...>> ^Drax:
Westy, I'm against animal cruelty where I see it. Yes there are despicably animal meat packing plants, but there's been a shift in treating animals more humanely over here. Maybe it's a small smart, I dunno. Whatever it is it's a good start. And I bet there's at least one vegetarian amongst the video sift crew. I have several who are friends.
I see an organized dog fighting competition and I have an ill reaction to it.
You don't, least in this case.
I'm not going to stand on some moral high ground and chastise you for your lack of empathy or anyone else, because yes there's a humorous side to this video. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it, and that doesn't mean I think any less of anyone who laughed at the dogs going at it in 'I'm a r'over nor't a fighr'ter' sort of dog way.
You're the one being an asshat here right now though. If I don't think the same exact way you do about something controversial, I'm fail. Apparently also I'm a pussy.
Better then being an asshole. ,,i,,
I dont see how i am the ass hat im not the one saying the video should be banned ,
All i have pionted to is some people are retarded for getting all emotoinal and some how coming to a conclusoin that the video is an endorsemnt of dog fighting.
botono9says...>> ^westy:
Regardless of u stance on animal crulty its ironic that the people r trying to get the dogs to fight and the dogs just want to sniff eachothers bums and hump.
if annything it gose in the face of dog fighting.
allso this video in no way indorses dog fighting.
It's not ironic that the dogs have to be taught to fight each other, that's just the way it works. These animals would not otherwise attack each other so viciously, as the likelihood of getting themselves injured or killed is too high. That's why animals develop various non-violent methods of resolving disputes (baring teeth, growling, raising hackles, etc.).
The main reason that this video is not amusing in the least is that the flip side of this coin is gruesome, inhumane and abhorrent. If these animals cannot be taught to fight viciously until one of them is dead or they are physically separated by their handlers, they will be killed. A fighting dog that doesn't fight isn't worth shit to a person who fights dogs. So while someone felt it would be fun to put clever musical touches on this particular video, I would challenge them to do the same to the video of these dogs being drowned, electrocuted, strangled, shot, hacked with a machete or all of the above.
This video absolutely endorses dog fighting, as it tries frame this phase of a fighting dog's life as amusing or cute, when in fact it is anything but. If these dogs do not "overcome" their natural urges to inspect each other and integrate in a peaceful social hierarchy, they will be killed by their handlers in cold blood.
The humor that is being attempted by the video's creator is not lost on me, but I cannot ignore the greater context of dog fighting simply because of some silly music.
I am a regular lurker here on VideoSift, and this is the first time I cursed the fact that I am not a bronze star user, as this is the first video I felt like down-voting.
imstellar28says...This discussion to me draws the line between half full and half empty. Can you find something positive in an overwhelming negative subject, or can you only see the negative?
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