Vegetarians -- Mitchell and Webb

Mitchell & Webb UKTV 2009. Do you know an annoying vegetarian?
siftbotsays...

Tags for this video have been changed from 'vegetarians, meat, extinction, other point of view, mitchell, webb' to 'vegetarians, meat, extinction, other point of view, mitchell, webb, mushroom risotto' - edited by ponceleon

rosekatsays...

SO true. The double standard some vegetarians present is ridiculous. Also, veggies who wear leather are quite intriguing ethical conundrums, aren't they? This is one of my favourite of theirs.

Wills09says...

Yeah, and don't even get me started on Jews - I made a Kosher meal for my Jewish friends and when I went around to dinner at their place they wouldn't make me bacon and pork chops! It's almost as though they had deeply held beliefs on a subject I never bothered to think about.

P.s. Mitchell & Webb actually balanced this quite nicely with the cat killing joke - My whinging is directed at the pitchfork brigade, who jump at the chance to complain about tiny minorities who impinge on their lives in the slightest, most easily tolerable ways.

GenjiKilpatricksays...

>> ^rosekat:
SO true. The double standard some vegetarians present is ridiculous. Also, veggies who wear leather are quite intriguing ethical conundrums, aren't they? This is one of my favourite of theirs.


Psh, like we all wear Cat sweaters and rock Peta bumper stickers.

I personally avoid dead animal flesh because i'm not a lion or vulture.

Don't you think it's strange we're the only animals that have to cook other animals before we eat them. (Or risk food poisoning, worms, death)

Also, I don't think the criticism is quite justified.
Vegetarians only eat plants. So why would one go purchase or have meat lying around just in case?

You guys are probably omnivorous. So you'd expect an omnivore to have a few vegatarian options about.

Likewise, if at a "Carnitarian's" house, is it appropriate to give them guff about not having any vegetables in the crisper drawer? And question why they have house plants?

I understand the joke, but if you put thought into it.. it doesn't quite make sense.

GeeSussFreeKsays...

A talk of food ethics on the interwebs most likely won't go anywhere. But that is something that I had no considered before...that the animals that are eaten are also the most populous...funny (or more plainly....being eaten might save your from extinction)

westysays...

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:
>> ^rosekat:
SO true. The double standard some vegetarians present is ridiculous. Also, veggies who wear leather are quite intriguing ethical conundrums, aren't they? This is one of my favourite of theirs.

Psh, like we all wear Cat sweaters and rock Peta bumper stickers.
I personally avoid dead animal flesh because i'm not a lion or vulture.
Don't you think it's strange we're the only animals that have to cook other animals before we eat them. (Or risk food poisoning, worms, death)
Also, I don't think the criticism is quite justified.
Vegetarians only eat plants. So why would one go purchase or have meat lying around just in case?
You guys are probably omnivorous. So you'd expect an omnivore to have a few vegatarian options about.
Likewise, if at a "Carnitarian's" house, is it appropriate to give them guff about not having any vegetables in the crisper drawer? And question why they have house plants?
I understand the joke, but if you put thought into it.. it doesn't quite make sense.




most omnivorous and meet eaters are susceptible to the same worms and problems with meat . but if u kill something fresh its normally fine , you don't actual have to cook Manny meats , Fish, Beef,Dear,Lamb,spring buck, maggots , lavee , so long as you get it fresh.

due to the way we kill animals and store them and genraly dont eat fresh fresh it dose make it safer to cook alot of meets but this also applies to vegetables and other non meet produce. I think Rice is actually one of the more common ways for people to get serous food poisoning Evan over meat.

I think in the case of most meats the more you cook it the more you actually lose from the meat where as with most vegetables light cooking increases there nutritional value as what is lost is replaced by the ablity for the stumach to better digest more of it.


Im just looking forward to the time we can grow meats so that we don't have to deprive creatures of life in order to eat something tasty and different from vegetables. Its also a shame that in most western cultures its frowned apon to eat larvii and bugs, when they make an excellent food source and also consume waste , would make far more sence than killing large wasteful and relitavly intelligent creatures like cows.

rychansays...

We don't have to cook our food. I love sushi. We're perfectly capable of eating any meat raw. There is a tiny risk of food borne illness, though. That's not unique to humans -- our vet didn't want us feeding our dog raw chicken.

Humans and animals both get more calories from cooked meat (or almost any food). Humans are just the only creatures smart enough to use the tool.

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:
>> ^rosekat:
SO true. The double standard some vegetarians present is ridiculous. Also, veggies who wear leather are quite intriguing ethical conundrums, aren't they? This is one of my favourite of theirs.

Psh, like we all wear Cat sweaters and rock Peta bumper stickers.
I personally avoid dead animal flesh because i'm not a lion or vulture.
Don't you think it's strange we're the only animals that have to cook other animals before we eat them. (Or risk food poisoning, worms, death)
Also, I don't think the criticism is quite justified.
Vegetarians only eat plants. So why would one go purchase or have meat lying around just in case?
You guys are probably omnivorous. So you'd expect an omnivore to have a few vegatarian options about.
Likewise, if at a "Carnitarian's" house, is it appropriate to give them guff about not having any vegetables in the crisper drawer? And question why they have house plants?
I understand the joke, but if you put thought into it.. it doesn't quite make sense.

rosekatsays...

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:
>> ^rosekat:
SO true. The double standard some vegetarians present is ridiculous. Also, veggies who wear leather are quite intriguing ethical conundrums, aren't they? This is one of my favourite of theirs.

Psh, like we all wear Cat sweaters and rock Peta bumper stickers.
I personally avoid dead animal flesh because i'm not a lion or vulture.
Don't you think it's strange we're the only animals that have to cook other animals before we eat them. (Or risk food poisoning, worms, death)
Also, I don't think the criticism is quite justified.
Vegetarians only eat plants. So why would one go purchase or have meat lying around just in case?
You guys are probably omnivorous. So you'd expect an omnivore to have a few vegatarian options about.
Likewise, if at a "Carnitarian's" house, is it appropriate to give them guff about not having any vegetables in the crisper drawer? And question why they have house plants?
I understand the joke, but if you put thought into it.. it doesn't quite make sense.

Relax, it's a great piece of script that handles a common social conflict with a bit of depth and real humour (and makes perfect effing sense). It's not a personal attack on you! I'm sure you're wonderful

GenjiKilpatricksays...

>> ^westy:
most omnivorous and meet eaters are..


:: deeeeep breath ::

-- My comments were an attempt to dispel the idea that the majority of vegetarians/vegans are some treehumping hypocritical carebear squad.

I'm not saying that meat is evil or trying to convert.
I simply feel like vegetarians/vegans get a lot of undo criticism for attempting to do something that benefits everyone.

This Mitchell & Webb is a prime example. And it leads to counter-vegetarian babble that is just, if not more, annoying..


-- So yeah Westy. People eat steaks rare, i like sushi, and it's common sense that any type of rotten food will make you sick.

Tho:
1. Most humans never eat fresh raw meat. So that point is sorta moot..

2. Just because we can eat meat, like chimps and bonobos sometimes, doesn't mean we're designed to consume the huge quantities of flesh many humans (Uhmerikans) consume.

3. Shouldn't humans have important things like fangs and claws and stronger jaws or digestive fluid if we were designed for that purpose?

4. If you found a three day old carrot or apple sitting in the sun.. you could still eat it. .. raw


-- Vegetarianism is a choice. For many (most) of us it's based on reasonable observations we come to.

Humans don't have hunt animals to survive the winter any more..
Plants are more easily produced, healthier, and have other benefits we know about and exploit already..

So it's frustrating that stereotypical thinking like this only adds to the stigma and dumb counterpoints of eating less meat.

Argsays...

As I understand it, humans have been cooking food for so long now that it has guided our evolution. Thus we now have smaller teeth and jaw muscles and a shorter intestinal tract. Cooking has become a sort of external pre-digestive tract, tenderising meat, softening hard seeds, breaking down toxic and irritating substances in roots and leaves, and releasing nutrients bound up in plant cells.

You could say that humans are not omnivores, they are cookivores.
>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:
>> ^westy:
most omnivorous and meet eaters are..

2. Just because we can eat meat, like chimps and bonobos sometimes, doesn't mean we're designed to consume the huge quantities of flesh many humans (Uhmerikans) consume.
3. Shouldn't humans have important things like fangs and claws and stronger jaws or digestive fluid if we were designed for that purpose?

westysays...

my point was that u said "don't u think its strange that we are the only animals to cook meat "
When we equally cook non meat as much as meats.

weather or not we cook something dose not factor into if we should or shouldn't eat it or which is more or less natural or healthy.

And that u are probably equally as likely to get food pionsing from non meats as meats if they r left out. obviously some meats store better than others the same is for some non meats.

I think ethically its wrong to eat meat , but also having said that i think unless a food actually makes you ill its a bit stupid to not eat it when u visiting a persons house. most often the meat is dead anny way so long as your main stay is vegetarian eating meet every blue moon with people dosent endorse meat eating and the creature was already dead. I think its probably a bad idea to forse the body to be incompatible with meat which can happen if u never eat meat. also i don't have that much of an ethical problem people eating bugs or creatures that are very stupid , or very well looked after before slaughter.

KnivesOutsays...

I mostly stay away from eating mammals, and instead eat fish and birds. Why? Because they're leaner and easier on your digestive system. I don't have any moral qualms with the idea of eating beef or pork, I just don't want to ingest them. I'm also not going to give anyone guff about doing it. When we entertained family for the holidays, I cooked them a beautiful ham, as well as a lovely turkey.

For me it's not a question of morality but health. My only point is that omnivorism is an analog spectrum, and most people fall somewhere in the middle. There's a big difference between vegetarians, vegans, and those that just avoid meat for health reasons.

gwiz665says...

>> ^KnivesOut:
I mostly stay away from eating mammals, and instead eat fish and birds. Why? Because they're leaner and easier on your digestive system. I don't have any moral qualms with the idea of eating beef or pork, I just don't want to ingest them. I'm also not going to give anyone guff about doing it. When we entertained family for the holidays, I cooked them a beautiful ham, as well as a lovely turkey.
For me it's not a question of morality but health. My only point is that omnivorism is an analog spectrum, and most people fall somewhere in the middle. There's a big difference between vegetarians, vegans, and those that just avoid meat for health reasons.


"Guff"?? *punches*

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