The Skewed Views of Science

From Y/T: "A look at the pitfalls of arguing against science from incomprehension or emotion."
bluecliffsays...

all this is nice and peachy.
but when he mentioned math. it seem to me that most people think that statements in experimental sciences have the status and the logical strength of mathematical statements.

BicycleRepairMansays...

>> ^bluecliff:
all this is nice and peachy.
but when he mentioned math. it seem to me that most people think that statements in experimental sciences have the status and the logical strength of mathematical statements.


He mentioned math as an exception, because in every other field there is an element of uncertainty that you can basically get rid of in math. A circle, for instance is round by its very definition, unlike the earth, which we call spherical* because an overwhelming amount of evidence suggests that it is.We may be wrong about the shape of Earth, (tho anyone who thinks its, say, banana-shaped, has quite the work cut out for them) Math, on the other hand, is abstract, so we define the rules, and its basically an exercise in certainty and stone-cold proof.

*yeah yeah its wider around the middle/the moon blah blah blah, but You know what I mean, its actually more spherical than a common billiard ball

vermontersays...

This should be required viewing in as part of all academic programs that include the 'weaknesses and objections' to major scientific theories like geological history and evolution. It does a good job of laying out what science is and is not about in a factual way.

Lodurrsays...

Intuition is a great tool that is being dismissed too easily here. There are more facts out there than are humanly knowable, so at some point you must draw a line, convince yourself that you have the "general idea" down, and use a basic understanding to intuit the details. The narrator calls it your "zone of comprehension," but he implies that having a larger zone of comprehension is more desirable, which isn't true in my view. This quote from the Taoist philosopher Zhuangzi puts it best:

"Human life is limited, but knowledge is limitless. To drive the limited in pursuit of the limitless is fatal; and to presume that one really knows is fatal indeed!"

HenningKOsays...

>> ^Zhuangzi:
"Human life is limited, but knowledge is limitless. To drive the limited in pursuit of the limitless is fatal; and to presume that one really knows is fatal indeed!"


Utter tosh. The pursuit of knowledge will not kill you.
At the point you would draw a line and trust your intuition, the narrator is asking you instead to trust the scientists -- the specialists who DO go beyond a basic understanding in their field.

siftbotsays...

Tags for this video have been changed from 'science, incomprehension, emotion, understanding, bias, learning, knowledge' to 'science, incomprehension, emotion, understanding, bias, learning, knowledge, QualiaSoup' - edited by EDD

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