The Situation Room: L.A. gun buyback yields rocket launchers

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A gun buyback program turns up two rocket launchers. CNN's Kyung Lah looks at what this says about weapons in the U.S.
Stusays...

The rocket launcher thing is a bit ridiculous. I'm not even sure where to get one of those. Assault Rifles? I can go to 4-5 stores in my area and get one of those. Hell Wal-Mart sells half of those.

Darkhandsays...

I'm really not sure why everyone is making such a big deal out of it. They didn't have the rockets for it, just the launcher.

Everyone comes here and posts videos about how the police abuse the system and how inept they are. Then we are willing to believe the police aren't just holding a replica and are too dumb to notice?

Someone out there probably paid like $300 for "Military Replica Style Rocket Launcher" and sold it to the cops for like $2,000 and he's laughing his ass all the way to the bank.

Otherwise wouldn't we hear "Bizzare Rocket Launcher Murder solved!" No questions or not I can't believe they would just let that guy go.

VoodooVsays...

next year it's "I don't see what the big deal is, they just recovered some rockets, It's not like they had the launchers."

oh wait.

you really haven't been paying attention if you think the sift just bashes the police. Reality isn't quite so black and white.

If the NRA theory holds, with a million guns in circulation, LA should be the safest place in the world, right?

right??

chingalerasays...

It's a good idea to keep shitty guns around for when municipalities hold buy-backs such as these- these things usually net more crap guns than functional or safe ones. Also, for the next time FEMA stages another test-run, an illegal, unconstitutional police-state confiscation of legal firearms under some bullshit pretense like a flood. The REAL guns safely tucked-away from the assholes in uniform who have traded freedom for freedom to rape and pillage.

zeoverlordsays...

At a recent gun amnesty (which is similar to these gun buybacks) in sweden someone turned in an anti aircraft cannon.

And for the record that AT-4 is not an RPG it's technically a recoilless grenade launcher

BicycleRepairMansays...

While rocket launchers look and sound crazy to own, they dont scare me half as much as an assault rifle. They are good for taking out a tank or an armored car, but in terms of murdering many civilians, they are really pretty useless, compared to an assault rifle. And thats if you actually have the rocket that fits the launcher, which are highly specialized and difficult to obtain, probably as hard to get as the launcher itself. and that smaller one in the video, is an M72 LAW, which is a disposable rocket launcher, only good for one shot. if it didnt contain a rocket, its about as dangerous as an empty toilet roll.

gwiz665says...

"Seems like we're a thrid world nation"

Wtf? What third world nation has guns like that? Rocket launchers like that aren't cheap. It seems a very American problem to have "too many guns".

Bruti79says...

You'd be surprised how easy weapons can be to get.

gwiz665said:

"Seems like we're a thrid world nation"

Wtf? What third world nation has guns like that? Rocket launchers like that aren't cheap. It seems a very American problem to have "too many guns".

casonsays...

I had a used M72 LAW as a child. Saved my allowance for the whopping $20 they were sold for at the local army surplus store. Ultimate weapon for pretend backyard army wars, good at taking out fortified tree houses.

zeoverlordsays...

Actually both of them are one shot deals and can't normally be reloaded, especially the larger AT-4, though i do think there are versions of the LAW that can be reloaded for training purposes.

BicycleRepairMansaid:

While rocket launchers look and sound crazy to own, they dont scare me half as much as an assault rifle. They are good for taking out a tank or an armored car, but in terms of murdering many civilians, they are really pretty useless, compared to an assault rifle. And thats if you actually have the rocket that fits the launcher, which are highly specialized and difficult to obtain, probably as hard to get as the launcher itself. and that smaller one in the video, is an M72 LAW, which is a disposable rocket launcher, only good for one shot. if it didnt contain a rocket, its about as dangerous as an empty toilet roll.

LarsaruSsays...

Yea like @zeoverlord said: Those are not reloadable like the RPG-7 but are one shot weapons where you then just dump the tube after shooting it once. Basically someone handed in a couple of already fired AT4 tubes. They are originally Swedish made and the US has adopted them as they are far superior to the weaker LAW so they have probably been brought home by a soldier who have fired them in training or perhaps even in one of the wars.

The Swedish name is Pansarskott m/86 but the US renamed them to AT4.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT4

Oh I almost forgot that there are reloadable AT4s as well but they have been modified to fire 9mm pistol tracer rounds for target practice... cheaper and safer than the real deal...

BicycleRepairMansaid:

While rocket launchers look and sound crazy to own, they dont scare me half as much as an assault rifle. They are good for taking out a tank or an armored car, but in terms of murdering many civilians, they are really pretty useless, compared to an assault rifle. And thats if you actually have the rocket that fits the launcher, which are highly specialized and difficult to obtain, probably as hard to get as the launcher itself. and that smaller one in the video, is an M72 LAW, which is a disposable rocket launcher, only good for one shot. if it didnt contain a rocket, its about as dangerous as an empty toilet roll.

zeoverlordsays...

Yea there are both 9 and 20mm versions for target practice, the 20mm adds more realism in the form of a large bang,
I have used both, and i have to say that the 9mm is definitely one of the weirdest weapons to shoot.
First its basically a gun barrel in a drainpipe which effectively makes it a suppressed weapon, it doesn't go plonk as the wikipedia article states but more of a suppressed pong as the whole tube resonates with the bang.
Secondly it's surprisingly accurate (possibly due to the size of the weapon), but the barrel is designed to mimic the flightpath of the real ones which makes the bullet behave strangely once it hits something, it has a tendency to bounce, deflect or just move irraticly, multiple times at that.
On several occasions during training we saw those tracer rounds basically jump and skip up the cliff face behind the firing range.

LarsaruSsaid:

Oh I almost forgot that there are reloadable AT4s as well but they have been modified to fire 9mm pistol tracer rounds for target practice... cheaper and safer than the real deal...

chingalerasays...

Hey gwiz665, it's obvious that you have unwarranted distrust and perhaps even a gnawing disgust for firearms, IN GENERAL. Trolling all these videos to offer the "fucking America" two-cents comments becomes after a while, a redundant broken-record of feel-good/sound-good generic sound bites from the same broken record of non-facts, non-real-world, non-functional gibberish. It's patently offensive, and a fine example of retarded, sophomoric reasoning. Grow the fuck up PLEASE!??

BicycleRepairMansays...

I'm not really a weapon expert, so I dont know anything about the AT4, but I have used M72's (or M66 as we called it), and yea, I know you can put in and reload practice shots, but then they just become a really, really crappy rifle. You could probably do 10 times the damage with a standard issue glock or a cheap hunting rifle.

But give a crazy guy an AK47 or similar assault rifle... those are just plain murder machines. The name really gives it away, they are ASSAULT rifles, and thats the only thing they are good for: Assaulting and killing several people, the kind of thing you do in a WAR.

LarsaruSsaid:

Yea like @zeoverlord said: Those are not reloadable like the RPG-7 but are one shot weapons where you then just dump the tube after shooting it once. Basically someone handed in a couple of already fired AT4 tubes. They are originally Swedish made and the US has adopted them as they are far superior to the weaker LAW so they have probably been brought home by a soldier who have fired them in training or perhaps even in one of the wars.

The Swedish name is Pansarskott m/86 but the US renamed them to AT4.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT4

Oh I almost forgot that there are reloadable AT4s as well but they have been modified to fire 9mm pistol tracer rounds for target practice... cheaper and safer than the real deal...

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