The Passion of the Benny Hill

MarineGunrocksays...

There's a toughy, dag.

But let's do this for now. Let's set aside all religious beliefs, customs, and differences.
(Mind you that the man, Jesus Christ was a man, your savior or not. There are proven historical accounts that he existed. Even the Muslims acknowledge it. Now, I'm not trying to tell you that he's the Son of God, but just that he existed as a man.

What we have left is the depiction of a man that was getting the flesh torn from his back. He got a crown of thorns pressed into his scalp. He was then to carry that piece of lumber down the road to the point where he was to be crucified upon it, whilst getting stones and such thrown at him.
Once arrived at the site of his crucifixion, he had spikes driven through his hands and feet, and was raised to hang and die over the next few days.

That sounds pretty damn shitty, does it not?
That treacherous experience, when put to music to get a few laughs just seems pretty fucked up, no matter your religion. It's still a man. And it's not like it was Hitler or Saddam. The guy never hurt anybody.

Now as far as the Muslim cartoons:

I only got a few of the jokes, and I can understand that the Muslims are pissed about it. I don't hate Muslims. I hate Islamic extremists. They're the ones that are trying to blow everything up. So they have any right or place to bitch about it. Your everyday Muslim, though I think does. They being the ones that DON'T try to kill people everyday are being depicted as violent and murderous. I'd be pretty pissed if that was me.

Bidoulerouxsays...

>> ^MarineGunrock:
What we have left is the depiction of a man that was getting the flesh torn from his back. He got a crown of thorns pressed into his scalp. He was then to carry that piece of lumber down the road to the point where he was to be crucified upon it, whilst getting stones and such thrown at him.
Once arrived at the site of his crucifixion, he had spikes driven through his hands and feet, and was raised to hang and die over the next few days.
That sounds pretty damn shitty, does it not?

Yeah, and so does the torture and crucifixion of countless other unknown men and women, pagan or not (from the Romans' point of view). It also doesn't change 1700 years of religious persecution by the christian church in the name of a supposedly non-violent, turn-the-other-cheek guy. In comparison, when's the last time you heard a Buddhist monk taking Hitler's side or condemning all Jews or all "insert-sin-here"ers to hell via their own wish fulfilling machine (i.e. god)? They have a hell, but they don't go wishing every other "infidel" into it or use it to control their fellow lay Buddhists.

On the subject of islam, it is well-known historically that Muhammad was a warlord and that so were his successors; claiming islam (which means "submission") is a non-violent religion is like claiming the nazis were peaceful recreational gas users. Of course, not all nazis gassed jews for a living, but it doesn't change the facts that many of them did, directly or not, willingly or not, knowingly or not. And so not all muslims ("one who submits") are terrorists, but many of them are and even more are tacitly or overtly approving these terrorists and their tactics. Just because there isn't a centralized muslim church doesn't mean muslims shouldn't be concerned about what others do in the name of their religion.

As for the video, it is indeed quite funny, all the more so since The Passion of the Christ takes itself much much too seriously. Unless you literally believe in the fact that Jesus saved us all by being crucified, then the guy was just an evolutionary dead end (Paul was the one to spread the little-known underground church of christ like a nazi propagandist while ostensibly corrupting Jesus' message to make it more palatable to the roman middle class). Sorry to bring this up after 7 months, but what the hell, I may make myself a few more enemies.

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