The untold story of planned obsolescence.
Buttlesays...

Perhaps it's worth reflecting on the apparent fact that we ourselves seem to be programmed to fail after, roughly, grandparenthood. Seems to have worked fairly well for our species, as well as many others.

mxxconsays...

>> ^Buttle:

Perhaps it's worth reflecting on the apparent fact that we ourselves seem to be programmed to fail after, roughly, grandparenthood. Seems to have worked fairly well for our species, as well as many others.
except when you fail, where's no waste left behind. If you can make my iphone fail the same way, I think you'd be a very rich man.

ravermansays...

Many printers now have the obsolescence blatantly built in to the ink cartridges.

To stop recycling and reuse, the cartridge is programmed to short circuit and fuse it's control chip if it passes a level approaching empty.

Other manufacturers do it at the driver level, when the cartridge is empty it sets a value to lock the printer unless a new branded cartridge is used.

DRM for digital media has a logical argument at least. But why is there not a class action law suit against this deliberate sabotage of a product after purchase?

Buttlesays...

No waste left behind, except when there is -- consider the eons old refuse we're currently burning as fossil fuel. The reason so little seems to be wasted in the natural world is that something has evolved to use almost all of the available waste streams.

The video conflates two different ideas: the design life for a manufactured product, and consideration of how to handle that product at the end of its life. It's hard to imagine an iphone so perfect that it wouldn't be irresponsible not to plan for its demise at the time of manufacture.>> ^mxxcon:

>> ^Buttle:
Perhaps it's worth reflecting on the apparent fact that we ourselves seem to be programmed to fail after, roughly, grandparenthood. Seems to have worked fairly well for our species, as well as many others.
except when you fail, where's no waste left behind. If you can make my iphone fail the same way, I think you'd be a very rich man.

Paybacksays...

>> ^raverman:

Many printers now have the obsolescence blatantly built in to the ink cartridges.
To stop recycling and reuse, the cartridge is programmed to short circuit and fuse it's control chip if it passes a level approaching empty.
Other manufacturers do it at the driver level, when the cartridge is empty it sets a value to lock the printer unless a new branded cartridge is used.
DRM for digital media has a logical argument at least. But why is there not a class action law suit against this deliberate sabotage of a product after purchase?


With even colour laser printers (decent ones too) in the range of sub-$200 why would ANYONE buy an ink printer anyway? Laser toner doesn't dry out. As a matter of fact, the drier it is, the better.

ravermansays...

And Laser toner Cartridges are also easily refillable several times with sometimes just minor parts some times needing cleaning or replacing. In yet most people send perfectly good cartridges to the dump... because the company who wants to sell you the next one tells you to?>> ^Payback:

>> ^raverman:
Many printers now have the obsolescence blatantly built in to the ink cartridges.
To stop recycling and reuse, the cartridge is programmed to short circuit and fuse it's control chip if it passes a level approaching empty.
Other manufacturers do it at the driver level, when the cartridge is empty it sets a value to lock the printer unless a new branded cartridge is used.
DRM for digital media has a logical argument at least. But why is there not a class action law suit against this deliberate sabotage of a product after purchase?

With even colour laser printers (decent ones too) in the range of sub-$200 why would ANYONE buy an ink printer anyway? Laser toner doesn't dry out. As a matter of fact, the drier it is, the better.

arghnesssays...

"Marco doesn't know what to expect from this Russian download"

I would have laughed so loud if it had just installed trojans and redirected every URL to porn adverts, as many random Russian downloads have been known to do

spoco2says...

>> ^Payback:

>> ^raverman:
Many printers now have the obsolescence blatantly built in to the ink cartridges.
To stop recycling and reuse, the cartridge is programmed to short circuit and fuse it's control chip if it passes a level approaching empty.
Other manufacturers do it at the driver level, when the cartridge is empty it sets a value to lock the printer unless a new branded cartridge is used.
DRM for digital media has a logical argument at least. But why is there not a class action law suit against this deliberate sabotage of a product after purchase?

With even colour laser printers (decent ones too) in the range of sub-$200 why would ANYONE buy an ink printer anyway? Laser toner doesn't dry out. As a matter of fact, the drier it is, the better.


Because they want to print photos. And because doing so with a laser printer requires specialist laser photo paper rather than the easily available inkjet photo paper.

I'm not trying to defend the ridiculous $30 for a printer, $90 for the ink crap that the inkjet printers have going, just saying why people would. I hate blanket statements like yours.

Winstonfield_Pennypackersays...

Fridges built in the 1950s still work just fine and look fantastic. Does that mean we should all be using them? Of course not. They weighed a ton more, used 'environmentally unfriendly' coolant, and were much less efficient. So even though the old timey 1950s fridge is not 'obsolete' in the sense that it is still functional, it very much IS obsolete in the sense that modern options are far superior.

This concept that every product ever made should be some sort of immortal, immutable Jungian archetype is just some person's idiotic fantasy. I've had the same fridge, microwave, dryer and dishwasher for over 14 years. Our clothes washer was also that old and was still working like a champ, but I got a new front-loader because they are more efficient. As my life goes on, I will replace these older 1990s appliances with newer ones that are better. And I will not feel either (A) guilty about it or (B) ripped off as if I was somehow being gypped.

siftbotsays...

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