Many people don't think Obama would make a good president and that his only strong trait is how he is a teriffic speaker.. This however is why I think he would be such an asset to the healing of our nations faith in itself. So many people are tired of all the crap. Obama would be so healthy for our country by dispelling the ideas that we're the most important and better then everyone else.while he might be able to only restore some ethics to the government, the ethics he would restore in our people would be far more important.

-V

The feed on this vid didn't hang on me, which is a surprise, since CC was sucking hard before. I suppose they still have the stupid zone issue, but at least they seem to have their vid-server act together (finally).

Re: Obama, I don't know how this will play out, but if he becomes president, I will be very pleasantly surprised. I think he is clearly the best of the current candidates, but I'm still not sure if Dr Wright is as wrong about the state of America as Obama believes he is.

Re: Obama, I don't know how this will play out, but if he becomes president, I will be very pleasantly surprised. I think he is clearly the best of the current candidates, but I'm still not sure if Dr Wright is as wrong about the state of America as Obama believes he is.


That's pretty much my own assessment of the situation - Dr. Wright has more truths than falsehoods, and mainstream America would rather be in denial about it than actually consider his statements (inflammatory as they are). Problem is "mainstream America" is the majority, and Obama can't afford to piss them off... I think Obama really does believe that Wright is correct, superlative and exaggeration aside, but his political survival hinges on avoiding "extreme" points of view.

The Daily Show pretty much got it right - the American people would rather be told what they want to hear than actually have to face problems with maturity and candor.

Don't underestimate the power of a good speaker. Reagan was smart enough to pick, then listen to, excellent advisors. His real power lay in his oratory. There is so much that happens in any major government, let alone the US, that one man cannot be in control. He can only hold sway, and to do that, you need to be able to speak effectively. 50% of Dubbya's problems lie in the fact that no-one but pundits and late night talk show hosts listen to him speak. The other half is he either has morons for advisors or he just doesn't listen to them.

can't play it, is it cuz im not in the US of A?

>> ^Maven:
can't play it, is it cuz im not in the US of A?


Click on the "Technology exists" link in the vid description. Good vid.

>> ^dgandhi:
Re: Obama, I don't know how this will play out, but if he becomes president, I will be very pleasantly surprised. [...]


Talking heads can say what they will, but on the prediction markets - where people have to actually put their money on the line - Obama's odds of winning the nomination are still 73% to Clinton's 26% chance.

His odds of beating McCain have gone down from the large lead he had earlier to a slight lead now (41.5% to McCain's 40%). So, the smart money still favors him slightly, but it's considered a much closer race.

Sorry for being off topic, but I'm ashamed to admit I've not heard of "region blocking" internet content. Can someone kindly PM or link a decent source of information concerning it.

Video worked from France, which is somewhat surprising because most of these types of streams are blocked.

Even with Hotspot Shield from the technology exists link, I couldn't get the page to load here in Canada.

>> ^Xax:
Even with Hotspot Shield from the technology exists link, I couldn't get the page to load here in Canada.



I did.

Apparently, I somehow managed to click the button 3 times without the comment submitting.

So, I have 3 quotes here now. So, um.
for the third comment I'll put my favourite joke.

Caution: Potentially NSFW.

THE SETTING: A Scottish old timer in Scotland, in a bar, talking to a
young man.

Old Man: "Lad, look out there to the field. Do ya see that fence? Look
how well it's built. I built that fence stone by stone with me own two
hands. Piled it for months. But do they call me
McGregor-the-Fence-Builder? Nooo.."

Then the old man gestured at the bar.

"Look here at the bar. Do ya see how smooth and just it is? I planed
that surface down by me own achin' back. I carved that wood with me
own hard labour, for eight days. But do they call me
McGregor-the-Bar-builder? Nooo..."

Then the old man points out the window.

"Eh, Laddy, look out to sea. Do ya see that pier that sretches out as
far as the eye can see? I built that pier with the sweat off me back.
I nailed it board by board. But do they call me
McGregor-the-Pier-Builder? Nooo..."

Then the old man looks around nervously, trying to make sure no one is
paying attention.

"But ya fuck one goat . . . "

The main reason I'm didn't vote for Obama in NY is he has so little experience. Not just on running things, but foreign experience. In todays world, having zero foreign experience is just not a good thing. If he got in office he'd be heavily relying on those that do have it, and who's to know what kind of people they are.

I mean look at Bush, he also had zero, and quickly came to heavily rely on his rather unscrupulous vice-president, Chaney. Now Chaney is dramatically more presidential power then any previous vice president and the hubris and uncaring nature to wield it with impunity. Thats not a good thing.

I like Obama, he is a very good speaker, and he has good ideas. But I just don't think he has the experience and knowledge to be president. I'd like to see him in a high office, perhaps even vice-president where he can do a lot of good work. But I just don't think he's got what it takes, as of yet, to be president. If he did some work around the world, spent a few years as a diplomat, etc, he'd likely get my vote.

Maybe we'll see that in 2016, but I don't believe he'll be in the white house next year.



Good clip, when John Stewart is on his game, nobody comes close, not even Colbert.

<sigh> stupid region-locked video and my laziness prevents me from pulling a US VPN to reach it.

>> ^Xaielao:
The main reason I'm didn't vote for Obama in NY is he has so little experience. Not just on running things, but foreign experience. In todays world, having zero foreign experience is just not a good thing. If he got in office he'd be heavily relying on those that do have it, and who's to know what kind of people they are.
I mean look at Bush, he also had zero, and quickly came to heavily rely on his rather unscrupulous vice-president, Chaney. Now Chaney is dramatically more presidential power then any previous vice president and the hubris and uncaring nature to wield it with impunity. Thats not a good thing.


Um, seriously?

You're equating Obama with Bush?

That's like comparing Steven Hawking with a box of rotten onions.

Seriously.

"I'm sure another governor will fellate a donkey and we can all move on..."

Gold! Gold! Gold!!!

So what I'm getting from this is that the only reason people like Obama is because he's a good speaker? Yeah, that is what makes a good president.

MG: Remember last time when we got to vote for a turd sandwich or a giant douche?

While I think that Sen Clinton is so wrapped up in the DNC political machine that she resembles that situation, I don't see that from either McCain or Obama.

Remember being president means:

1) making emergency decisions
2) getting the rest of the government to do their jobs consistent with your policy intentions.

#2 is basically charisma and speaking skills, Obama wins that over the other two hands down, and that matters.

I would say all three standing candidates are far and above the options in 2004, in terms of ability. But it does not matter how able a "decider" the president is, if s/he can't get the rest of the government to fall in line the presidency is lame-duck from day one.

Also note, if a Dem get in the WhiteHouse you can expect "the unitary executive" and "signing statements" to be ruled unconstitutional within months by the Supreme Court, so Obama or Clinton will actually have to do their job instead of just ignoring everybody else(and the law), as W has done.

I love folks that say Obama has no foreign policy experience. His father was an African finance minister, and he spent many formative years in Jakarta. What the hell do you want, blood?

Do you mean he doesn't have experience sitting at press conferences with heads of state, or at state dinners yuking up on other dignitaries? Yep, in that scenario, he may have less experience than Clinton, who has probably gone shoe shopping with Raisa.

>> ^Engels:
I love folks that say Obama has no foreign policy experience. His father was an African finance minister, and he spent many formative years in Jakarta. What the hell do you want, blood?


Yeah, his hands, covered in blood. Like a butcher! YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Oh wait, what are we talking about?

I live in Canada and I love the daily show. Because of regional blocking, this video doesn't work for me. So far, I haven't figured out how to hide my IP to prevent censorship based on geography. I couldn't get any of the programs above to work for me...

...But I did find the clip from the Canadian website: http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart/full-episodes/march-18-2008/#clip39160

Let me know if its the right one.

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