Brought to you by the same people SOOOO concerned about voter fraud.

Someone's in trouuuuble.

(And her name is Honey Bunch.)

Oops!

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Ah, the young and naive and the old and callous. They should do a sitcom together.

I'll see your one confused girl attacked by a liberal harpie with these clowns and His Earness' amnesty for one million illegals in June.

>> ^quantumushroom:

I'll see your one confused girl attacked by a liberal harpie with these clowns and His Earness' amnesty for one million illegals in June.


Behold the hypocrisy of the partisan.. funny how reality flips upside down depending on the color of the offenders T shirt..
Harpies and cuties aside any reasonably impartial fan of democracy would say this shit CANNOT PASS

Pretty poor response, QM. Even for you.

>> ^Kofi:

Pretty poor response, QM. Even for you.


Really? are you honestly surprised?

They've pretty much admitted they're deliberately trying to suppress the vote and QM will still do his mental gymnastics and still argue the virtue of this.

When are the mods here going to kick him out of the sift for trolling? He's not arguing another valid perspective. He typically runs away when he's called out. He doesn't defend his position except with ad homs and other fallacies.

kick him out of here.

I thought he'd go with "This is just a fake video set up by liberals who can't bare to acknowledge that they are going to lose in November". The authenticity of the video is a legitimate ground for rebuttal but he just went with the Strawman. Second rate trolling.

Edit: I will defend QM by saying that he is one funny bugger in non-political comments. This is what makes his trolling so obvious. He proves that he is capable of coherent and thoughtful remarks but just does away with that whenever there is a political point to be won, but mainly lost.

I see that this young girl who looks barely 20 years old doesn't know what she is doing wrong, and the lady with the camera is right about the party discrimination. But I felt that as an older person the lady could've informed the youngin' the rights and wrongs of her actions without embarrassing her like that in public.

That part was very mean spirited and the lady was taking her anger against political shinanigans on a poor inexperienced teen who's just trying to get some volunteer hours in. I started cringing the moment lady started raising her voice on purpose trying to embarrass the girl. And If I heard correctly, I think the lady called the young girl a 'honey bitch' at the end... Politics brings out the worst in people, either those who use young, misinformed teens to do their wrong deeds or be it an angry woman who does everything she can to embarrass an inexperienced girl. Ugh...

I felt the same way. I bet she had no idea she was doing anything wrong - and she may have actually just been taking the job because she needs money. Who knows. Pretty sure she said honey bunch, tho.
>> ^legacy0100:

I see that this young girl who looks barely 20 years old doesn't know what she is doing wrong, and the lady with the camera is right about the party discrimination. But as an older person I felt that the lady could've informed the youngin' without embarrassing her like that in public.
That part was very mean spirited and she was taking out the anger against a poor inexperienced teen who's just trying to get some volunteer hours in. I started cringing the moment lady started raising her voice on purpose trying to embarrass the girl. And If I heard correctly, the lady called the young girl a 'honey bitch' at the end... Politics brings out the worst in people, either those who use young, misinformed teens to do their wrong deeds or be it an angry woman who does everything she can to embarrass an inexperienced girl. Ugh...

Now, imagine she is not a hot as Kristin Kriuk look-a-like and see how far your sympathies go. Bwhahahaha.

Touche.
>> ^Kofi:

Now, imagine she is not a hot as Kristin Kriuk look-a-like and see how far your sympathies go. Bwhahahaha.

>> ^legacy0100:

I see that this young girl who looks barely 20 years old doesn't know what she is doing wrong, and the lady with the camera is right about the party discrimination. But as an older person I felt that the lady could've informed the youngin' without embarrassing her like that in public.
That part was very mean spirited and she was taking out the anger against a poor inexperienced teen who's just trying to get some volunteer hours in. I started cringing the moment lady started raising her voice on purpose trying to embarrass the girl. And If I heard correctly, the lady called the young girl a 'honey bitch' at the end... Politics brings out the worst in people, either those who use young, misinformed teens to do their wrong deeds or be it an angry woman who does everything she can to embarrass an inexperienced girl. Ugh...


Sometimes embarrassment is necessary to teach a lesson. I think that girl should've been beaten until she wasn't stupid anymore. Oh how I wish I was a teacher.

the girl may not have realized what she was getting into. But that's a far cry from being innocent. My guess is that she knew exactly what she was doing, just either wasn't expecting to be caught or maybe thought the other side did it too (very probably true, in either case, it's no excuse)

I'm sorry, kids can be dumb, but not quite that dumb. not understanding the consequences isn't the same thing as knowing you're deliberately trying to include one group and exclude the other.

and Kofi, making a few funny posts doesn't excuse deliberate troll posts. That's like saying it's ok to be a dick as long as I help grandma across the street a few times.

@VoodooV, I don't think QM should be "kicked out of here." He says profoundly stupid and deliberately antagonizing stuff, but all you have to do is ignore him.

I don't remember him ever getting personal towards another Sifter. But then, I stopped reading all his posts a long time ago.

People are allowed to be assholes, according to Sift tradition. They aren't allowed to personally attack another Sifter.

Ignore him. I know it is hard -- it took me awhile to learn how to do it -- but if you fully embrace the utter ignoring the ignoramus, it is oddly empowering.

@Yogi, that sarcasm button is confusing. Am I supposed to ignore you or not?

Because, ya know, Hitler was really really good at personal attacks. I really need to say that? Can't tell, because of that peaky sarcasm button....

We need to coddle 20 year olds? Really? It seems to me that by 20 you ought to be held accountable for knowing some basic shit.

>> ^legacy0100:

I see that this young girl who looks barely 20 years old doesn't know what she is doing wrong, and the lady with the camera is right about the party discrimination. But I felt that as an older person the lady could've informed the youngin' the rights and wrongs of her actions without embarrassing her like that in public.
That part was very mean spirited and the lady was taking her anger against political shinanigans on a poor inexperienced teen who's just trying to get some volunteer hours in. I started cringing the moment lady started raising her voice on purpose trying to embarrass the girl. And If I heard correctly, I think the lady called the young girl a 'honey bitch' at the end... Politics brings out the worst in people, either those who use young, misinformed teens to do their wrong deeds or be it an angry woman who does everything she can to embarrass an inexperienced girl. Ugh...

>> ^bmacs27:

We need to coddle 20 year olds? Really? It seems to me that by 20 you ought to be held accountable for knowing some basic shit.
>> ^legacy0100:
I see that this young girl who looks barely 20 years old doesn't know what she is doing wrong, and the lady with the camera is right about the party discrimination. But I felt that as an older person the lady could've informed the youngin' the rights and wrongs of her actions without embarrassing her like that in public.
That part was very mean spirited and the lady was taking her anger against political shinanigans on a poor inexperienced teen who's just trying to get some volunteer hours in. I started cringing the moment lady started raising her voice on purpose trying to embarrass the girl. And If I heard correctly, I think the lady called the young girl a 'honey bitch' at the end... Politics brings out the worst in people, either those who use young, misinformed teens to do their wrong deeds or be it an angry woman who does everything she can to embarrass an inexperienced girl. Ugh...



While I totally agree with you, this is America, where education is absolute gobshite. I find it perfectly plausible that this "honey bunch" might not know how anti-democratic her job is. I also was very annoyed at the older woman taking her political frustration out like that, and found that it diminished the power of the video. She missed a wonderful opportunity to calmly explain (to the woman, but also and more importantly the viewers) why what she is doing is so wrong. *le sigh*

Maybe. But why hide her face then?

>> ^VoodooV:

the girl may not have realized what she was getting into. But that's a far cry from being innocent. My guess is that she knew exactly what she was doing, just either wasn't expecting to be caught or maybe thought the other side did it too (very probably true, in either case, it's no excuse)
I'm sorry, kids can be dumb, but not quite that dumb. not understanding the consequences isn't the same thing as knowing you're deliberately trying to include one group and exclude the other.

I really can't get over how annoyed people are at the camerapersons reaction (including YT comments). She got snippy. That's it. Slightly rude at something that may be gravely offensive (we still don't know if she was just polling or actually helping people enrol, time will tell). She didn't lecture, curse or become violent. She gathered evidence whilst being outraged and a tad self-righteous.

Maybe we're over-looking that this is a female to female interaction and there is no obligation for chivalry, no matter how small. This may just be civility in its most appropriate form.

Can I register to get people to stop using this anoying camera phone angle?

@Kofi agreed. I'm sure the older woman was like "got what I need, now to see who's behind this." She knew that this kid didn't invent the idea to do this, she was sent to this place by someone at the County Clerks Office who forgot to tell her "Sure, try to register people that look like republicans (NO BROWN FOLKS PLEASE) but if anyone asks, we're here to register ANYONE."

What's sad? Wouldn't the idea that this product of the United States public education system is so clueless as to think that A: She believed herself to be correct in her actions at issue and B: She believes from the information available to her (most likely gathered from the ultimate source of accurate and wholly objective information, the television) that she is able to accurately make any decisions whatsoever regarding her government?

She's as developmentally disabled as our resident fungus (growing ever-healthier on his only food-source, television and am radio) as are those who believe that brand O, is any more noble or qualified than brand R, to do anything but continue to turn civilians nay, the entire human race into an automotomacious lump of ineffectual wage-slaves.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!!!

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^bareboards2:
@VoodooV, I don't think QM should be "kicked out of here." He says profoundly stupid and deliberately antagonizing stuff, but all you have to do is ignore him.
I don't remember him ever getting personal towards another Sifter. But then, I stopped reading all his posts a long time ago.
People are allowed to be assholes, according to Sift tradition. They aren't allowed to personally attack another Sifter.
Ignore him. I know it is hard -- it took me awhile to learn how to do it -- but if you fully embrace the utter ignoring the ignoramus, it is oddly empowering.

I presume you said much the same of Hitlers Rise To Power! "Oh just ignore him he's harmless." Nice going!

>> ^bareboards2:

@VoodooV, I don't think QM should be "kicked out of here." He says profoundly stupid and deliberately antagonizing stuff, but all you have to do is ignore him.
I don't remember him ever getting personal towards another Sifter. But then, I stopped reading all his posts a long time ago.
People are allowed to be assholes, according to Sift tradition. They aren't allowed to personally attack another Sifter.
Ignore him. I know it is hard -- it took me awhile to learn how to do it -- but if you fully embrace the utter ignoring the ignoramus, it is oddly empowering.


QM actually adds to the collective. Any healthy group needs negative actors to keep it fresh and honest.

Me, I wonder why ShinyB is allowed to stay. All it does is call the female sifters whores and damn the rest of us to the Enternal Fires. Talk about no positive input.

SB doesn't call people whores. He says anyone who has sex outside marriage is doing something wrong. Everything else is your mind filling in the blanks. An opinion sincerely put forward is a positive input. A "negative actor", as you say, and more sincere than QM, by far.>> ^Payback:


Me, I wonder why ShinyB is allowed to stay. All it does is call the female sifters whores and damn the rest of us to the Enternal Fires. Talk about no positive input.

I feel like the Sift has a very vibrant liberal / left base; so we know that we need just a smidgen of the lunatic fringe to keep it balanced and remember that these lunatics have a gigantic grip on the mainstream populous.

I hope she sees the inside of a jail cell for her stupidity. Would serve her right to experience the other end of the stick.

So if you don't live in Colorado you're missing half the story.

Due to a recent policy change, failing to vote in any election removes you from the electoral registry. So if you didn't vote in the last state election, for example, you are not a registered voter in Colorado. This policy is recent enough that many people preparing to vote in November will not realize they are no longer a registered voter.

Not to worry, if you go to vote and find you're not registered, you can register at the polling site. All you need is a photo ID.

Add to that the recent attempt by Colorado Secretary of State Scott Gessler (Republican) to purge voters by challenging their citizenship. Seems ironic that the US sends monitors to other countries to ensure fair elections.

I vote dumb, gullible girl. She's Republican, ffs, so it's pretty obvious. Just look at that thousand-yard stare. So sad. And to openly admit her purpose to people... I don't think she'd do that if she understood the possible implications of doing so, much less the legality of her actions.

And Safeway had nothing to do with it.

I mentioned Safeway to emphasize the very public and mixed segment of the population she was approaching, @Fletch. And I agree with you. She had no clue what she is doing -- civics lesson via the internet.

>> ^messenger:

SB doesn't call people whores. He says anyone who has sex outside marriage is doing something wrong. Everything else is your mind filling in the blanks. An opinion sincerely put forward is a positive input. A "negative actor", as you say, and more sincere than QM, by far.>> ^Payback:

Me, I wonder why ShinyB is allowed to stay. All it does is call the female sifters whores and damn the rest of us to the Enternal Fires. Talk about no positive input.



Actually, yes he does, but his blue-balled, self-righteous self-repression gave birth to a running joke (isn't that right, you harlots @UsesProzac and @berticus?) so I guess it's okay. That being said, at least most of QM's idiotic comments are short, not pages-long preaching. And he sometimes makes a funny comment, unlike shinyb.

>> ^hpqp:

>> ^messenger:
SB doesn't call people whores. He says anyone who has sex outside marriage is doing something wrong. Everything else is your mind filling in the blanks. An opinion sincerely put forward is a positive input. A "negative actor", as you say, and more sincere than QM, by far.>> ^Payback:
Me, I wonder why ShinyB is allowed to stay. All it does is call the female sifters whores and damn the rest of us to the Enternal Fires. Talk about no positive input.


Actually, yes he does, but his blue-balled, self-righteous self-repression gave birth to a running joke (isn't that right, you harlots @UsesProzac and @berticus?) so I guess it's okay. That being said, at least most of QM's idiotic comments are short, not pages-long preaching. And he sometimes makes a funny comment, unlike shinyb.


Yea, what hpqp said, I was just too lazy to look up those posts...

That's a step down from calling her a whore, but meh.>> ^hpqp:

yes he does.

"You have promoted yourself as a harlot" <- wat

I almost feel sorry for her, because everyone involved with this is going to deny everything and leave her carrying the can. I say almost because, although I don't think she knew the extent of what she was doing, she seemed to know this wasn't entirely legit and anyway, she should have known how bad this is.

>> ^messenger:

That's a step down from calling her a whore, but meh.>> ^hpqp:
yes he does.



Harlot is accepted to mean a prostitute or promiscuous woman. Not a step down, just an outdated equivalent. Still insulting. Still incredibly disrespectful.

No, I meant he compared that one action with a whore/harlot/prostitute, but fell short of actually calling her one. It's like the difference between saying, "You're a retard," and "That was a retarded thing to do." Agreed about insulting and disrespectful.>> ^Payback:

>> ^messenger:
That's a step down from calling her a whore, but meh.>> ^hpqp:
yes he does.


Harlot is accepted to mean a prostitute or promiscuous woman. Not a step down, just an outdated equivalent. Still insulting. Still incredibly disrespectful.

At no time did I say "Lana Lang" here was justified or right in doing what she did. As some of the less-testy lefties here admit, she certainly did not act like someone who was caught deliberately trying to do wrong.

What I am saying is, compared to the vote-rigging schemes by taxocrat elected officials and the illegal "granting" of amnesty by His Majesty, liberals have no solid ground to attack voter suppression, which consists of asking for the SAME FUCKING ID used to buy alcohol.

Oh that's right, we're not allowed to criticize The One's SHIT performance in office, because he's (half) Black.

Liberals will always have a ready-made excuse why obamanomics failed, or why no one is investing in this poisoned business climate, or why millions have been added to food stamps and disability, or why tyrants around the world scoff at His Earness' spinelessness. But it's your right to worship at the feet of this fool.

Regarding partisanship, am I inclined to be a little less harsh towards conservative foolishness than liberal foolishness? Of course. Only now, liberal foolishness means the wholesale ruination of the system.

Seriously, American libs, why are you still here? Canada and Europe ALREADY HAVE free health care and all the PC bullshit already set in stone! If I believed as you do, I'd have moved a long time ago.



>> ^cosmovitelli:

>> ^quantumushroom:
I'll see your one confused girl attacked by a liberal harpie with these clowns and His Earness' amnesty for one million illegals in June.

Behold the hypocrisy of the partisan.. funny how reality flips upside down depending on the color of the offenders T shirt..
Harpies and cuties aside any reasonably impartial fan of democracy would say this shit CANNOT PASS

Oh great, now ignoring me is "empowering" for the ladies.

Well, back to my old pick-up line: "Does this needle feel like it's full of etorphine hydrochloride to you?"



>> ^bareboards2:

Ignore him. I know it is hard -- it took me awhile to learn how to do it -- but if you fully embrace the utter ignoring the ignoramus, it is oddly empowering.

"Ignoring" is a gender-free activity.

Works for both men and women.


>> ^quantumushroom:

Oh great, now ignoring me is "empowering" for the ladies.
Well, back to my old pick-up line: "Does this needle feel like it's full of etorphine hydrochloride to you?"

>> ^bareboards2:
Ignore him. I know it is hard -- it took me awhile to learn how to do it -- but if you fully embrace the utter ignoring the ignoramus, it is oddly empowering.

>> ^quantumushroom:


Liberals will always have a ready-made excuse why obamanomics failed



Its called Dubya and his Multinational Masters crashing the US into the shit heap while stuffing their pockets.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/28/1137628/-BREAKING-Florida-GOP-Election-Fraud-scandal-spreads-to-ten-counties

Whoa. I don't know if this is accurate, but according to this blog post, this young woman was apparently working for the disgraced contract company employed by the GOP in several states, which was caught submitting fraudulent voter registrations.