Congrats Drug Warrior-in-Chief President Obama!

Reason.tv's Nanny of the Month is Drug Warrior-in-Chief Barack Obama, whose DEA banned fake pot, thwarted a scientist's decade-long campaign to study marijuana, and raided dispensaries in Montana and California—all in one month!

(Seems like only yesterday when Obama promised he wouldn't waste Justice Department resources raiding medical marijuana dispensaries.)

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ChaosEnginesays...

I do find it ironic that the same people who see "alternative medicine" for the bullshit it is, will often defend "medical" marijuana. Just admit you want get high! It's no worse than getting drunk, and as long as you're not a dick about it*, there's nothing wrong with that either.

* i.e. being impaired when you should be competent (drivers, pilots, looking after children or infirm people)

blankfistsays...

>> ^ChaosEngine:

I do find it ironic that the same people who see "alternative medicine" for the bullshit it is, will often defend "medical" marijuana. Just admit you want get high! It's no worse than getting drunk, and as long as you're not a dick about it , there's nothing wrong with that either.
i.e. being impaired when you should be competent (drivers, pilots, looking after children or infirm people)


I'll be sure to pass your message along to the patients who claim it helps with their cancer.

ChaosEnginesays...

>> ^blankfist:

>> ^ChaosEngine:
I do find it ironic that the same people who see "alternative medicine" for the bullshit it is, will often defend "medical" marijuana. Just admit you want get high! It's no worse than getting drunk, and as long as you're not a dick about it , there's nothing wrong with that either.
i.e. being impaired when you should be competent (drivers, pilots, looking after children or infirm people)

I'll be sure to pass your message along to the patients who claim it helps with their cancer.


Nice appeal to pity.

They can claim it all they want. Some of them probably also claim that crystals and homoeopathy help too. Doesn't make it true.

Look, I'm not saying it isn't possible that marijuana has some medical benefits, simply that it should be subject to the same medical study as other cures. Meanwhile, let's give up the false piety of "we just want to help cancer patients." Yeah right, that may be a positive side effect but have the honesty to admit you just want to get stoned, and have the moral courage to admit that's not a bad thing.

Yogisays...

>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^blankfist:
>> ^ChaosEngine:
I do find it ironic that the same people who see "alternative medicine" for the bullshit it is, will often defend "medical" marijuana. Just admit you want get high! It's no worse than getting drunk, and as long as you're not a dick about it , there's nothing wrong with that either.
i.e. being impaired when you should be competent (drivers, pilots, looking after children or infirm people)

I'll be sure to pass your message along to the patients who claim it helps with their cancer.

Nice appeal to pity.
They can claim it all they want. Some of them probably also claim that crystals and homoeopathy help too. Doesn't make it true.
Look, I'm not saying it isn't possible that marijuana has some medical benefits, simply that it should be subject to the same medical study as other cures. Meanwhile, let's give up the false piety of "we just want to help cancer patients." Yeah right, that may be a positive side effect but have the honesty to admit you just want to get stoned, and have the moral courage to admit that's not a bad thing.


Don't give a shit about any of that. I know Marijuana helps with pain, and for people suffering from pain problems who can't play with their kids or do really anything it means a lot. So yeah that's a huge benefit.

Ryjkyjsays...

Pain aside, one of the most important roles for a cancer patient that marijuana can fill is to give them back their appetite when the nausea of chemotherapy sets in.

The fact of the matter is that marijuana is proven to benefit patients in this way. That's the reason we have Marinol. I watched my uncle die a slow and incredibly painful death from melanoma and I would've happily given him anything he asked for. The fact is, he asked for weed and it helped.

I say this as an ex-pot smoker. I don't do it anymore but I think it should be legal. The fact that it's not at least a legal medicine everywhere is a crime.

MaxWildersays...

>> ^ChaosEngine:

I do find it ironic that the same people who see "alternative medicine" for the bullshit it is, will often defend "medical" marijuana. Just admit you want get high! It's no worse than getting drunk, and as long as you're not a dick about it, there's nothing wrong with that either.


The difference between cannabis and alternative medicine is HUGE! Cannabis has proven medical benefits with minimal side effects.

The reason why you see it used as an argument frequently is because the anti-cannabis idiots keep saying it should be illegal because it has no practical uses. Not only is this a ridiculous argument for a freedom-loving country, it is also patently false. So you see the medical uses being discussed a lot.

You are correct in your assertion that many people just want to be able to grow and smoke weed legally, but the "medical marijuana" angle is not just a front. It's a real issue.

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