Now I know why the mainstream media can't handle international issues or complex stories....

Avatar Has one of the most simplistic and obvious plots. nearly all the film is totally unmemorable.

also the 3D was terrible it was pretty much pointless and Films need to be directed and filmed fundamentally different in order for 3d to work in films , other than it been a stupid gimic.

avatar was an epic fail and whats sad is its been financially successful basically showing you how much of a fail the majority of western culture is.

That's awesomely depressing. I'm like a new-born Morrisey after watching it.

The depression is caused by the anti-European message of the movie.

It causes people to feel ashamed to be white.

upvote for mike in missouri.

Is this from the Onion?

People are stupid.

I love it.

I hope for their sake these people don't discover World of Warcraft.

I felt the same way about Star Wars when I was seven years old. They'll get over it.

Well, I see we've all already piled on the hate train, but..
I've experienced exactly what they're talking about with various anime shows. When I first watched FLCL I felt genuinely depressed for about two weeks when the show was over. Likable characters combined with seeing a young kid with friends having an adventureful life made me acutely aware of the things missing in my geek life.

I just saw Avatar this past week. It was a good movie; there were only three things that struck me as not being sensible while I was watching it(compare this to Terminator Salvation, which I also saw this past week. It had at least 10 things that jumped out at me as either plot holes or just nonsense). Avatar gets away with things that wouldn't work in movies set on Earth because being set in a foreign planetary system gives them access to phenomena like a unique evolutionary history or the presence of the superconducting mineral as explanations for aspects of the plot.

While I did not feel depressed after seeing Avatar, I did experience a sensation similar to missing someone for a minute or two after leaving the theater. A relatively believable story, likable characters, a female lead with sex appeal, exotic environment, the fact that I strongly want to see travel to other stars happen within my lifetime, the fact that I'm single, and the fact that the movie was over two and a half hours long; I guess all that could have added up to create the sensation I felt.

Caller saying that depressed/suicidal people should reevaluate their lives = epic.

Our world is gray and depressing? Open your eyes!

*eia

Adding video to channels (Eia) - requested by ant.

on another note... is that first woman wearing a snuggie?

Wait... this is not from the Onion.

>> ^sineral:
Well, I see we've all already piled on the hate train, but..
I've experienced exactly what they're talking about with various anime shows. When I first watched FLCL I felt genuinely depressed for about two weeks when the show was over. Likable characters combined with seeing a young kid with friends having an adventureful life made me acutely aware of the things missing in my geek life.

Yeah I felt the same way after watching Evangelion as a kid.

>> ^gwiz665:
Our world is gray and depressing? Open your eyes!


And how many people get to regularly see such sights in real life instead of just looking at pictures through a computer screen? I can understand people living in concrete jungles feeling that their surroundings are rather grim.

I'm depressed that we haven't even been to the god damn moon since the 70's... yet in our minds we dream of going to other solar systems. Personally, I think the I-Phone is going to be the high water mark of human culture and I don't even own one.

AVATAR uses classic epic plotlines that have been used for centuries from homer to proust to tolkien.the movie is pretty immersive and does this quite quickly,so it should not be that surprising that there is a pinch of sadness when the story is over.like any good book that sucks you in we all get that sadness that the ride is over.

what IS surprising is that this sadness has been prolonged in some people.i suspect this may stem from the western worlds general disconnect with what is real and what they are told is normal.all our lives we are told we are special and unique and if we work hard and study hard we can achieve great success.most of us by our mid twenties figure out this is utter bullshit but some do not and when they are shown something that gives them a stark contrast,something in which they can compare their colorless life to....they become confused,scared and i gather...depressed.

so maybe it may seem odd that it took an animated movie to begin this process of evaluation but im glad SOMETHING got these people to do that.they will get over it and will be better for it in the long run.

"you are NOT a beautiful and unique snowflake.you are the same decaying organic matter as the rest of us.we are the singing,dancing crap of the world"-dust brothers

> ^vaporlock:
I'm depressed that we haven't even been to the god damn moon since the 70's... yet in our minds we dream of going to other solar systems.



What's so great about the moon? It looks pretty boring to me. I'd much rather be here than there. Wait 20 years and see if you still think a rock floating around in space is more exciting than the virtual worlds we can create here at home.


Personally, I think the I-Phone is going to be the high water mark of human culture and I don't even own one.

People still have iPhones?

Double post. =/

Ahhh, the business of destroying lives. Why did you do it James Cameron?? WHY!

Our world is drowning in entertainment and escapism.

The most decadent, spoilt, self-indulgent generation the planet has ever seen suffers from depression because they are addicted to things that do nothing, create nothing, and mean nothing.

The only thing I found depressing about Avatar was the fact that I've -seen- that movie before...multiple times. All that changes are the faces, the setting, and the special effects. Admittedly the FX were incredible, but seriously, if you're going to drop tens of millions of dollars on a movie, why in hell wouldn't you spend one or two million for some actual creative writing? Get a script from Vernor Vinge, or Stephen Baxter, or C.S Friedman, or any of the thousands of talented writers out there who can write an -original- story!

I'm so sick of Hollywood's formulaic tripe. But Cameron? Thanks for reminding me why I don't go to see movies in the theater...and prefer books in virtually every case anyway.

The problem is that It dosent evan copy the existing themes well. its as if an 8 yr old watched a bunch of contemporary films and then decided to make there own.

It could actually be a good film if it copied Good films and deliverd it in a good way , maby with decent acting , the acting in this film is of B move quality and worse with the script like something you would find in a 90s computer game.

I've been down after reading an engrossing book like LotR, Harry Potter, or Dune and kind of realizing that our universe is not nearly so interesting. I didn't really have similar feelings after Avatar, though. It just wasn't compelling enough.

I didn't.... (I want to live on Bespin - Cloud City Rocks!)
>> ^garmachi:
I felt the same way about Star Wars when I was seven years old. They'll get over it.

I feel like committing suicide after leaving a Uwe Boll movie, but for a completely different reason.

People are just depressed there aren't any half-naked 12 foot blue aliens they can bang.

this is so stupid. its such a disgustingly obvious, shameless and reprehensible marketing ploy that i now have absolutely no desire to see this movie.

anyone that says they get depressed after watching a fantasy based movie should kill themselves. now, if you watch a movie like "Seven Pounds" or "Crash" THEN i could understand why you might get depressed but, something that's not even based in reality? has society really come to this? now THAT'S depressing. i'm gonna go slit my wrists.

:_(

I recall when I was younger and having a bad week, I used to think how great it would be to go off and live in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy universe. There was something appealing about living in a place that was totally nonsensical, but unlike my culture, doesn't have any pretenses of being otherwise. I also imagine that a certain amount of it came from the appeal of just up and leaving everything behind, which I could have perfectly well done in the real world of course, but nevertheless didn't.


I just saw Avatar earlier today as a matter of fact. I didn't really care for the 3D. It was cool in many ways, but something about it made it a little stressful to watch for such a long movie. I think the primary thing was that I would automatically try to focus my eyes on things that were not in focus on the film and this crossed wires in the old brain box.

It was a fun bit of pulp cinema though--neat effects, and there was cool stuff to look at in every frame (which only made the focus problem worse unfortunately).

I can see Westy is already in the 'calling Avatar crap makes me cool' phase. That didn't take very long.


Avatar is quite ground breaking and in 3D it really puts you into the world. I saw it again in 3D last night and with 5 movies coming out yesterday I expected there to be a decent crowd at best, but the theater was so packed there weren't enough seats for all the viewers. I couldn't believe that a month in the movie is still selling out at $13.50 a ticket for the 3D showing. And from what I heard the 2 theaters showing it in 2d were the same way.

It's an awe inspiring movie. Sure the plot is obvious and the acting isn't entirely Oscar Worthy but the CG is groundbreaking and they successfully surpassed what was considered unsurpassable, the Uncanny Valley. Anyone that finds themselves depressed and see's our own world as gray is weak of will in the first place. Our own world is thick with awe inspiring places and vistas as well. But since most people live in forests of concrete and glass and barely see any wildlife besides pidgeons and their entire lives are passed simply eking out an existence, I can see where such a life would be empty. And it's why I will always be a country boy.

>> ^Xaielao:
I can see Westy is already in the 'calling Avatar crap makes me cool' phase. That didn't take very long.

Avatar is quite ground breaking and in 3D it really puts you into the world. I saw it again in 3D last night and with 5 movies coming out yesterday I expected there to be a decent crowd at best, but the theater was so packed there weren't enough seats for all the viewers. I couldn't believe that a month in the movie is still selling out at $13.50 a ticket for the 3D showing. And from what I heard the 2 theaters showing it in 2d were the same way.
It's an awe inspiring movie. Sure the plot is obvious and the acting isn't entirely Oscar Worthy but the CG is groundbreaking and they successfully surpassed what was considered unsurpassable, the Uncanny Valley. Anyone that finds themselves depressed and see's our own world as gray is weak of will in the first place. Our own world is thick with awe inspiring places and vistas as well. But since most people live in forests of concrete and glass and barely see any wildlife besides pidgeons and their entire lives are passed simply eking out an existence, I can see where such a life would be empty. And it's why I will always be a country boy.

"I can see Westy is already in the 'calling Avatar crap makes me cool' phase. That didn't take very long." can you see how moronic that statement is ?

I went to see avatar thinking it might be good film , i left it thinking omg everyone is going to be slagging this off all that mony invested in it was a total waist, and that the people that did the back drops and cgi would be pissed off at a film that had the plot and delivery of something designed for a 8 year old to understand. ( and not in a good way)

I mean compare avatar to something like Jurassic park. CGI in jurassic park was ground braking and not just technically but interms of its implementation. also the story in Jurassic park and the pacing of the film and all the characters is fantastic. Avatar just feals Dead.

Then again avatar has made alot of money so there is obviously a market for it maby people just want simple films that require no thinking and that you can predict the outcome and pretty much the entirety of each sceen and the out come of the film instantly.



The only thing they did better than other films was some of the character cgi in a cupple of sceens. but you could still tell what was cg and what wasn't from the animation.

Granted if you havent watched allot of cgi then maby you would be highly impressed , but there has for a long time been alot of art work of photo real cgi outside of films , and you have Manny scenes in real films where they use photo real cgi on characters faces or various aspects and u would probably never notice it , in avatar you can tell when its cg or not.

Not moronic, but rather accurate I see.

And as to the CG if you cant see how ground breaking it is, that's your own issue. I certainly am not 'new' to CG in any way. I've been modding and modeling computer graphics since 91.

All should listen to James Cameron interviewed by NPR. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123810319

Too much talk here about what and what is not depression. The bigger picture is our ability to become one with our environment. This is not a new concept, in fact it's ancient, but one that has been forgotten and in some cases supressed by those that wish to contol others.
The link above could help people understand that the movie was inspired by what we can be as humans. So the idea is to inspire us to pursue making Earth a Pandora. The beauty of Pandora was inspired by what is real here on earth. The communication between the Na'vi and the environment is also possible by humans. Just a matter of looking within and blocking out the urban clutter we're all bombarded with every day. Read Celestine Prophecy, look into Reiki and various forms of meditation.