Penn and Teller: Reparations are Bullshit

JAPRsays...

"stop seeing yourself as white or black..."

I've been saying this for years. If people weren't so goddamn race-conscious, things would be a lot nicer.

blahpooksays...

I know that in Henry Louis Gates, Jr.'s African American Lives 2 on PBS, Tom Joyner made some very aggrieved comments after learning about his ancestors' treatment about how it can be impossible for this issue to resolved. I found myself nodding. At the same time I found myself nodding to points presented here too. Tough subject.

JAPRsays...

The problem is, people need to stop bitching about something that happened to their ancestors and start living for themselves, today. I've heard black people talking about how proud they were of how "their race overcame, and so black pride is a huge thing," but this person was only a third-generation American whose ancestors never suffered the discrimination.

Racial pride is not, in my opinion, a good thing. You can be proud of a group for doing admirable things, but you shouldn't take pride in being black, or in being Hispanic. That has nothing to do with what you can or will do.

dgandhisays...

>> ^JAPR:
The problem is, people need to stop bitching about something that happened to their ancestors and start living for themselves, today.


The problem is that the results of the racist system of slavery in the US are still with us. Having dark skin in this country is as socio-economically disadvantageous as having done time in prison, and that is not even taking into account the added problem of unequal treatment by the judicial system.

The US is not a post-racist nation, it takes a good amount of intentional blindness to act as though it is. P&T seem not to be aware of their own issues on this one.

My great great great grandfather owned cotton gins, which put my ancestors through college, the past has not gone anywhere, it's all around us.

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