I'm sorry, but when exactly has been government been bending over backwards for the atheists?

If the gov't was bending over backwards for the atheists..they wouldn't have, needlessly, re-affirmed the CHANGED motto of the USA of "In God We Trust"

If the founders had such a hard on for God, why was the actual motto of the USA, "e pluribus unum?" Or if you're too lazy to google it, "Out of many, one" Why would they expressly prohibit the establishment of a state religion hrm? It's more accurate to say that anyone who says we're a "Christian Nation" or <insert ANY religion here> Nation" is actively flipping the bird to the founders

Pastor Hagee doesn't know his history, obviously.

As usual, dimwits like him don't know what they're talking about.

Hes not ignorant.....he knows exactly what hes doing and saying, see how much fucking power he has over these morons?

That is not ignorance in action...

bullshit!

Only the last 6 commandments have any relevance at all (Oh, and the 10th prohibits the coveting of thy neighbours donkey and servants..hmm). The first 4 are are the ranting edicts of an egotistical, vain, megalomaniac. Any reasonably intelligent person could produce 10 better rules to live by.

>> ^A10anis:

Only the last 6 commandments have any relevance at all (Oh, and the 10th prohibits the coveting of thy neighbours donkey and servants..hmm). The first 4 are are the ranting edicts of an egotistical, vain, megalomaniac. Any reasonably intelligent person could produce 10 better rules to live by.


I'm still waiting for Atheists/Agnostics to come up with their own 10 Commandments. It should be ridiculously simple to create 10 basic rules for living a sane and helpful life that directly challenges solipsism and the idea that you need a god to have morality.

1. Don't be self-centered, you are not the only one trying to make it in the universe.
2. You can't succeed alone. Everyone needs help from time to time.
3. You can accomplish more with help than you can alone, so treat people with respect and respect will be given to you.

of course you could probably condense that down into one rule.

Don't kill and don't steal are still valid rules. Nothing wrong with coveting as long as it doesn't lead to killing and stealing. Coveting is the basis for capitalism after all I'm jealous of the shit you have so not only am I going to do what it takes to get the same things, I'm going to get more..regardless of whether or not I need it.

I know fundamentalists are eradicating evolution from the curriculum whenever possible but it looks like elementary American history isn't much safer.

It's interesting to look at the shape of the circle American Christians have drawn. This guy clearly doesn't want atheists or Satanists in his circle - but doesn't seem to have a problem with, say, Hindus in the military (despite the fact they're clearly not worshiping the same God). I mean, by Biblical standards aren't they pretty much just worshipping idols? Conversely, Muslims don't get much of a pass despite the fact that they do (at least to a large extent) share a conception of God.

All in all, it seems very transparent. They aren't worried about what God thinks, they're worried about their place in the marketplace of ideas, and their notion of correct politics.

The other thing I'll note is that many of these people (if they stay with their beliefs, which many won't) may come to regret espousing this hardline "if you don't agree with us, leave" stance. Supposedly Christian churches have abused those who disagreed for millenia. It's precisely that history of abuse and conflict that led the US founders to be so careful about establishment.

The position and power of white male Christians in the US is teetering; they may come to regret the precedent of minority-abuse they've set and continue to push.