Mitt Romney Booed at NAACP Event

Mitt Romney booed at African-American convention, Mitt Romney Booed At NAACP Convention For Saying He'd Repeal Obamacare. Mitt Romney was booed Wednesday at the NAACP conference for promising to repeal the president's signature health care reform law, bringing him to an awkward halt in the middle of an otherwise civilly-received pitch for black voters.
chingalerasays...

Who the fuck names their child MITT, anyhow.
Is it oven or catcher's?

Always thought it was strangely ironic as well that "Obama" rhymes with "Osama" and "Barack!" sounds like an onomatopoeia for the sound projectile vomiting makes.

VoodooVsays...

>> ^Chaucer:

It doesnt surprise me that they boo'd that' he'd repeal Obamacare. Most black people just want free shit at the expense of others.


I'm going to attempt to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you do realize that that was pretty much the definition of racism right?

Chaucersays...

>> ^VoodooV:

>> ^Chaucer:
It doesnt surprise me that they boo'd that' he'd repeal Obamacare. Most black people just want free shit at the expense of others.

I'm going to attempt to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you do realize that that was pretty much the definition of racism right?


Actually, that isnt racism as there is no hate there. Its just an observation that I have formed through my life experiences.

VoodooVsays...

>> ^Chaucer:

>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^Chaucer:
It doesnt surprise me that they boo'd that' he'd repeal Obamacare. Most black people just want free shit at the expense of others.

I'm going to attempt to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you do realize that that was pretty much the definition of racism right?

Actually, that isnt racism as there is no hate there. Its just an observation that I have formed through my life experiences.


uhh, no. Racism does not require hate. You made a wide generalization based on nothing but the color of one's skin. Doesn't get more racist than that.

Chaucersays...

>> ^VoodooV:

>> ^Chaucer:
>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^Chaucer:
It doesnt surprise me that they boo'd that' he'd repeal Obamacare. Most black people just want free shit at the expense of others.

I'm going to attempt to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you do realize that that was pretty much the definition of racism right?

Actually, that isnt racism as there is no hate there. Its just an observation that I have formed through my life experiences.

uhh, no. Racism does not require hate. You made a wide generalization based on nothing but the color of one's skin. Doesn't get more racist than that.


Its not racism. Let me give you a hypothetical example that you might be able to understand. Say you are non-jewish but you grew up in an majority jewish community. All your life you were bullied by the jewish people and you've seen your friends bullied by jewish people. Then you see a video about jews and you say, "most jews are bullies" because thats all you know and what you've seen and experienced. You arent saying all jews are that way nor do you carry prejudice against them. Its just the life experience that person has gone through.

Same here. A prerequisite for racism is to say that all of them that way or to carry prejudice or discriminate against that race. Neither of which are in my statement nor intended to be in my statement.

VoodooVsays...

quoting @Chaucer prior to him editing his post:

"Its not racism. Let me give you a hypothetical example that you might be able to understand. Say you are non-jewish but you grew up in an majority jewish community. All your life you were bullied by the jewish people and you've seen your friends bullied by jewish people. Then you see a video about jews and you say, "most jews are bullies" because thats all you know and what you've seen and experienced. You arent saying all jews are that way nor do you carry prejudice against them. Its just the life experience that person has gone through.

Same here. A prerequisite for racism is to say that all of them that way or to carry prejudice or discriminate against that race. Neither of which are in my statement nor intended to be in my statement."


I'm sorry, go look up the definition of racism. Nowhere does it add a caveat of "oh it's ok if your life experiences say otherwise" Your "life experiences" are anecdotal at best and that's ignoring the obvious derogatory slant you put on it. You're digging yourself a bigger hole as you hide behind logical fallacies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

Your "life experiences" mean absolutely dick when it comes to actual facts and logic. Prior to Columbus, it was "life experience" that said the world was flat. It was "life experience" that the earth was the center of the universe. It was "life experience" that said slavery was acceptable.

Fletchsays...

>> ^Chaucer:

>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^Chaucer:
>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^Chaucer:
It doesnt surprise me that they boo'd that' he'd repeal Obamacare. Most black people just want free shit at the expense of others.

I'm going to attempt to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you do realize that that was pretty much the definition of racism right?

Actually, that isnt racism as there is no hate there. Its just an observation that I have formed through my life experiences.

uhh, no. Racism does not require hate. You made a wide generalization based on nothing but the color of one's skin. Doesn't get more racist than that.

Its not racism. Let me give you a hypothetical example that you might be able to understand. Say you are non-jewish but you grew up in an majority jewish community. All your life you were bullied by the jewish people and you've seen your friends bullied by jewish people. Then you see a video about jews and you say, "most jews are bullies" because thats all you know and what you've seen and experienced. You arent saying all jews are that way nor do you carry prejudice against them. Its just the life experience that person has gone through.
Same here. A prerequisite for racism is to say that all of them that way or to carry prejudice or discriminate against that race. Neither of which are in my statement nor intended to be in my statement.

You have no clue what racism is. You can believe your own bullshit if you like, but claiming that a clearly racist comment is not racist just because you don't believe it is doesn't make it true. Your ridiculous "life experience" example simply explains why you are racist, not if you are racist. There seems to be a cognitive disconnect between what you believe you believe and what you actually say.

But hey, whatever gets you through the day...

Chaucersays...

you guys have no clue what racism really is. You are probably all white folk thats grown up in white suburbia and havent experience shit in the real world, much less racism. Grow up trolls. My comment doesnt even meet the basic criteria for being racism.

You guys have no clue. If I made a statement, most mexicans have toned skin. Is that racism? No. Its simply the experiences that I have had through life that leads me to believe this. Is it accurate, who knows. My statement above is no different.

Again, grow up trolls. If you want to see racism, go live in Memphis for a few years. Then you might be able to tell the difference between a comment and what is racist.

Or live in ignorance... whatever gets you through the day.

bobknight33says...

I find liberals are always first to pull the race card.

By their standards if you generalize then you are a raciest. Never mind life experiences or facts.


Your at a site the baths in liberalism and they will stab you if you even have thought other that theirs.


>> ^Chaucer:

>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^Chaucer:
It doesnt surprise me that they boo'd that' he'd repeal Obamacare. Most black people just want free shit at the expense of others.

I'm going to attempt to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you do realize that that was pretty much the definition of racism right?

Actually, that isnt racism as there is no hate there. Its just an observation that I have formed through my life experiences.

Darkhandsays...

What Chaucer said is racism yes. He should not be applying his beliefs to the entire race. He is assigned a characteristic to an entire race of people. So by definition that's racism.

TBH I'm surprised I didn't think the definition of racism was so broad. I mean how can you ever "Stereotype" someone then?

So if I say all Asians are good at Math that's not "Stereotyping" that's "Racism"?

But if I say all Hippy's love hugs that's Stereotyping?

Here's google:

-----------
noun /ˈrāˌsizəm/ 

1. The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races

2. Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief

------------

adjective /ˌkariktəˈristik/ 

Typical of a particular person, place, or thing
- large farms are characteristic of this area

noun /ˌkariktəˈristik/ 
characteristics, plural

A feature or quality belonging typically to a person, place, or thing and serving to identify it
- inherited characteristics such as blood groups

The whole number or integral part of a logarithm, which gives the order of magnitude of the original number

VoodooVsays...

This is true, Bob is unburdened with facts...life does get a lot simpler when you don't bother with evidence and critical thinking. Who cares if some colored folk get enslaved in the process. Who do they think they are wanting equal rights and drinking from OUR water fountains. What IS this world coming to?

And is it just me or is Bob's grammar getting worse? He's getting more and more incoherent.

>> ^bobknight33:

I find liberals are always first to pull the race card.
By their standards if you generalize then you are a raciest. Never mind life experiences or facts.

Your at a site the baths in liberalism and they will stab you if you even have thought other that theirs.

>> ^Chaucer:
>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^Chaucer:
It doesnt surprise me that they boo'd that' he'd repeal Obamacare. Most black people just want free shit at the expense of others.

I'm going to attempt to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you do realize that that was pretty much the definition of racism right?

Actually, that isnt racism as there is no hate there. Its just an observation that I have formed through my life experiences.


VoodooVsays...

>> ^Chaucer:

you guys have no clue what racism really is. You are probably all white folk thats grown up in white suburbia and havent experience shit in the real world, much less racism. Grow up trolls. My comment doesnt even meet the basic criteria for being racism.
You guys have no clue. If I made a statement, most mexicans have toned skin. Is that racism? No. Its simply the experiences that I have had through life that leads me to believe this. Is it accurate, who knows. My statement above is no different.
Again, grow up trolls. If you want to see racism, go live in Memphis for a few years. Then you might be able to tell the difference between a comment and what is racist.
Or live in ignorance... whatever gets you through the day.


mexicans having darker skin has actual physical evidence backing it up moron, that's why it's not racist. you can actually back that with this thing called science. Your original statement is you being an ignorant prick. In other words, Chaucer is not the center of the universe and your personal experiences colored as they are do not dictate reality.

It is deeply disturbing that you cannot tell the difference between those two statements.

Chaucersays...

>> ^VoodooV:

>> ^Chaucer:
you guys have no clue what racism really is. You are probably all white folk thats grown up in white suburbia and havent experience shit in the real world, much less racism. Grow up trolls. My comment doesnt even meet the basic criteria for being racism.
You guys have no clue. If I made a statement, most mexicans have toned skin. Is that racism? No. Its simply the experiences that I have had through life that leads me to believe this. Is it accurate, who knows. My statement above is no different.
Again, grow up trolls. If you want to see racism, go live in Memphis for a few years. Then you might be able to tell the difference between a comment and what is racist.
Or live in ignorance... whatever gets you through the day.

mexicans having darker skin has actual physical evidence backing it up moron, that's why it's not racist. you can actually back that with this thing called science. Your original statement is you being an ignorant prick. In other words, Chaucer is not the center of the universe and your personal experiences colored as they are do not dictate reality.
It is deeply disturbing that you cannot tell the difference between those two statements.


I must have hit the nail on the head with you having no life experiences as now you are just making shit up. GG Troll.

Porksandwichsays...

Obamacare makes them less likely to hire people. What was keeping them from hiring people prior to Obamacare?

And why is that Rmoney is associated with coming into companies, gutting the workforce and abandoning it to die under it's crushing debt and he's now supposed to be a job creator? He is known for increasing profits. Increasing profits does not mean more jobs. In fact it usually means shipping jobs overseas so they can increase their margins and maintain the past price.


It's like some magical code they speak in where everything sounds like what you want to hear but means something entirely different to people who have lots of wealth. Namely, what he says means I get richer while everyone forms a nice human stair case to the top....never mind the guys at the bottom of the crush who are starving for air due to the press of bodies. The guys Im walking on are pretty damn lucky and they know it...they get first dibs on the less profitable ventures I ignore.

Fletchsays...

>> ^VoodooV:

>> ^PoweredBySoy:
lol. Pretty weak.
>> ^Chaucer:

I must have hit the nail on the head with you having no life experiences as now you are just making shit up. GG Troll.


@Chaucer is another one of those people who seems to think "troll" means "anyone who disagrees with you"
it's not: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)


I don't know exactly when trolling became synonymous with bridge trolls and the like, but I distinctly remember seeing various posts many years ago on Usenet urging people to "stop feeding the trolls" and thinking "that's not what troll means! Troll is a VERB! It's all about FISHING!"

Anyway, @Chaucer is one of those people whose lineage would have been wiped from the genepool if human survival were still largely dependant upon the whims of hungry lions and other predators. He's either too stupid or too stubborn to learn anything and too self-righteous to even consider any view he can't see in his mirror. I suspect he is pretty young (or a short-busser), which means he's got a long, miserable life still ahead of him if he doesn't pull his head out soon.

Fletchsays...

>> ^bobknight33:

Your at a site the baths in liberalism and they will stab you if you even have thought other that theirs.


You're just a Siftist. And don't tell me you can't possibly be a Siftist because you have friends who are Sifters, or that your tolerance of Sifters is evidence of your innocence. I bet you think star powers are "special rights" as well.

Siftist.

VoodooVsays...

I sorta agree with that. But the thing is, he knew he'd get booed. It was a ploy. It's not like he went in there thinking he could honestly convince them that AHCA should be repealed. When he said that, he wasn't talking to the crowd, he was talking to the people who already agree with him.

That's the thing with the degradation of political discourse these days. Very few politicians actually attempt to convince people that their ideas are better, they merely try to rally people who already support them. It's far easier to rile up people who already agree with you than it is to convince someone who doesn't agree with you.

It should be obvious that health care as it is now is in need of reform. We keep spending more but we get less and less in return. We can't keep doing this. It was originally a Republican idea to reform it. I don't pretend to know much about AHCA so I can't really comment much on specifics, but I think everyone even on the left acknowledges it's not a perfect program. So let's correct those issues? My far right-leaning uncle who was a pharmacist complained all the time about the increased paperwork and red-tape because of AHCA. OK...that's a legitimate complaint. Let's DO something about that. Let's actually fix the problem instead of playing political games.

You want to repeal it? fine, but show me a better plan that you want to replace it with instead of returning to the status quo. I haven't seen anyone doing that. I want to move forward, not backwards.

>> ^shinyblurry:

I don't think this was a bad moment for him at all. He calmly waited out the booing, didn't back down, and tied Obamacare to his economic message. Overall, I think he handled it pretty well.

shinyblurrysays...

>> ^VoodooV:

I sorta agree with that. But the thing is, he knew he'd get booed. It was a ploy. It's not like he went in there thinking he could honestly convince them that AHCA should be repealed. When he said that, he wasn't talking to the crowd, he was talking to the people who already agree with him.
That's the thing with the degradation of political discourse these days. Very few politicians actually attempt to convince people that their ideas are better, they merely try to rally people who already support them. It's far easier to rile up people who already agree with you than it is to convince someone who doesn't agree with you.
It should be obvious that health care as it is now is in need of reform. We keep spending more but we get less and less in return. We can't keep doing this. It was originally a Republican idea to reform it. I don't pretend to know much about AHCA so I can't really comment much on specifics, but I think everyone even on the left acknowledges it's not a perfect program. So let's correct those issues? My far right-leaning uncle who was a pharmacist complained all the time about the increased paperwork and red-tape because of AHCA. OK...that's a legitimate complaint. Let's DO something about that. Let's actually fix the problem instead of playing political games.
You want to repeal it? fine, but show me a better plan that you want to replace it with instead of returning to the status quo. I haven't seen anyone doing that. I want to move forward, not backwards.
>> ^shinyblurry:
I don't think this was a bad moment for him at all. He calmly waited out the booing, didn't back down, and tied Obamacare to his economic message. Overall, I think he handled it pretty well.



Do you buy the liberal talking point that Romney deliberately mentioned he would repeal Obamacare so that it would "jazz up" racist conservatives in the republican base? Because he gave the NAACP the same speech he gives everywhere else, so if you're saying this speech was for someone else, then who, and why is this different in front of a black audience, if you aren't charging Romney with playing to racists?

There is so much divisiveness in this election. It's rich versus poor, men versus women, and black versus white. This country is more divided even than it was during the bush years. I think there is a lot of merit to the charge that since the president cannot run on his record, he is making this election about anything but a referendum on his job performance. Don't get me wrong, because I pray for the president and his family, but this shows such an intellectual dishonesty on his part. For someone who ran on hope and change in 2008, promising to fundamentally change the discourse in Washington, he has shown a willingness to say or do anything to keep his job; in other words, he is no different than any other politician. Washington has become much more divisive and sanctimonious since he took office, and I think this shows a failure of leadership.

I agree with what you're saying about healthcare. We should have some kind of system in place, and if the republicans are going to repeal Obamacare, they should have an alternative idea (preferably with far less government involvement). I don't think it's a bad idea in principle, but honestly I think that a government takeover of our healthcare system is never going to be anything other than a total nightmare. It's projected cost is already nearly 3 times what it was said to be originally, and it hasn't even been implemented yet. It is also going to cut medicare hugely. My mom is going to lose her health insurance directly because of Obamacare. It is a juggernaut and no one really knows how this will all play out. I simply do not trust the government to manage this; I think government management of our lives to that extent is a big mistake, especially for individual liberties. The nanny state will always lead to fascism in the end.

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