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RFlaggsays...Okay, so many questions as I don't do baseball much.
First, why would he throw the ball so far behind the batter? Just to walk him? Whenever I've seen them walk a batter, the catcher just stands and they just throw high and over to the side. Why would he be ejected for walking a batter? Batters are walked all the time. What is the situation where you can't walk a batter? Is it the way he's walking the batter being far off normal?
eric3579says...It was thrown at him or behind him in retaliation. I'm sure it was no surprise to anyone involved this might be coming.
"The background for the explosive moment was an incident in the 2015 playoffs, when the Dodgers’ Chase Utley broke the leg of the Mets’ Ruben Tejada on a slide into second base that many observers, and not just in the New York dugout, thought was dirty. Utley was initially suspended two games, but he appealed and was able to stay active for the rest of the series, won in five games by a Mets team that chose to save retribution for a less meaningful time." -Washington Post
In context, makes more sense how pissed off the manager was and how understanding the umpire was to what the manager was saying and angry about.
Here is the Utley slide.
https://www.mlb.com/video/must-c-tejada-injured-on-slide/c-521658783Also
As a side note due to this play MLB changed the rules of what is an acceptable slide.
Okay, so many questions as I don't do baseball much.
First, why would he throw the ball so far behind the batter? Just to walk him? Whenever I've seen them walk a batter, the catcher just stands and they just throw high and over to the side. Why would he be ejected for walking a batter? Batters are walked all the time. What is the situation where you can't walk a batter? Is it the way he's walking the batter being far off normal?
Ickstersays...It's funny, but I always sort of assumed the manager / ump screaming matches were just a kind of pro-forma show, like one of the unwritten rules of baseball.
This argument wasn't at all like I was expecting.
eric3579says...Watching baseball and being a fan for over 35+ yrs. i believe most of them are. Most play out the same and are for pretty trivial things. This one had quite a bit behind it. It was the real deal.
It's funny, but I always sort of assumed the manager / ump screaming matches were just a kind of pro-forma show, like one of the unwritten rules of baseball.
This argument wasn't at all like I was expecting.
eric3579says...Im surprised this hasn't been taken down yet. The original was removed quickly after it was posted.
The below is quoted from an article in the Sporting News article...
Commissoner Rob Manfred said Thursday that MLB made a commitment to the umpires that if they agreed to wear microphones then certain interactions, like the one with Collins, would not be aired publicly.
"We promised them that. It's in the collective bargaining agreement. We had no choice in a situation like that than to do everything possible to live up to our agreement," Manfred said, per the Associated Press. "It is Labor Relations 101. To not do that is the kind of breach of trust that puts you in a bad spot over the long haul." http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/mets-terry-collins-video-umpire-argument-micd-up-noah-syndergaard-ejection/1ooltz0uohtcg1qkbc5x94ua6i
siftbotsays...Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Thursday, June 14th, 2018 2:14pm PDT - promote requested by eric3579.
Boosting this quality contribution up in the Hot Listing - declared quality by eric3579.
entr0pysays...That's kind of cute how the fat old managers also wear little baseball uniforms, just in case they're asked to play.
admiralrontonsays...Thanks, the dialog makes so much more sense with that context.
It was thrown at him or behind him in retaliation. I'm sure it was no surprise to anyone involved this might be coming.
"The background for the explosive moment was an incident in the 2015 playoffs, when the Dodgers’ Chase Utley broke the leg of the Mets’ Ruben Tejada on a slide into second base that many observers, and not just in the New York dugout, thought was dirty. Utley was initially suspended two games, but he appealed and was able to stay active for the rest of the series, won in five games by a Mets team that chose to save retribution for a less meaningful time." -Washington Post
In context, makes more sense how pissed off the manager was and how understanding the umpire was to what the manager was saying and angry about.
Here is the Utley slide.
https://www.mlb.com/video/must-c-tejada-injured-on-slide/c-521658783Also
As a side note due to this play MLB changed the rules of what is an acceptable slide.
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