Someone should dub in audio right away. I'll provide a 1st draft, suitable for downvoting:

Tard: Oooh, I got a phone call. Helloooo? Helooooo?

<looks at phone>

Tard: I forgot to push the button again. Hellooooo? Oh, hello Owen. Yeah, I'm here at the QuickieMart picking up some Play-Doh for supper. Yes, Owen. Green Play-Doh is the tastiest, I must agree.

<off-screen noises>

Tard: Hold on, Owen. I must dispense some disciplinary action on a noisy noise maker.

<kicks child>

Tard: that's better. Now, where was I?

Father: What the fuck??

<father punches Tard>

Tard: Owww! My face!

The poor guy barely touched the kid--the kid doesn't even flinch. I won't downvote, but I won't upvote either. I don't see the entertainment or educational value in a handicapped person getting KO'd by an impulsive dad.

Fuck that. If someone kicked my kid I'd knock his teeth out.

>> ^burdturgler:
Fuck that. If someone kicked my kid I'd knock his teeth out.


Then you're going to raise a shitty, shitty kid.

Look, I can fully understand the reaction to you kid being hurt... BUT, do you really want your kid to see that the way to treat someone like this is to knock them down? Yeah, that's going to leave a really good impression on the kid for how to handle conflict. If instead you move in just as quickly, but move the guy away from your kid and then ask him why he did what he did, and how was it in any way appropriate to kick your kid... ask him that, get him to understand what he did was wrong, ask him to come over and apologise to your kid... make your kid see the right way to handle things like this, not knock him down.

You show a kid that the way his dad solves things is to hit people to the ground, you've just left a seriously deep imprint on him as to how he should handle things. I wouldn't be surprised if the dad gets a call about his kid hitting others at school... 'But, my dad did it!'.

Violence should not begat violence, show there are better, more respectful ways of handling these things, and on top of that you can discuss with him afterwards about mental issues and why you have to understand not all people know how to handle things in the right way.

The problem with that Spoco..

He is standing directly over the child looking down on him... the fathers response was not one of vengence... but of protection...

I don't begrudge what he did at all... there is no time to talk it out... A responsible parent can explain afterwards what happened was not ideal... And there are better ways of handling problems...

The father just saw his child assualted by a stranger and then standing over him in a position to do it again should he chose. What your saying makes sense... but in the fraction of a second he had NO way of knowing why this man was kicking his child or what he might do next...

I would take it a step further and say the fathers instincts were SPOT on with protecting their child. That should be his first priority, ending the threat to his child, and i can't begrudge him that...

Save the psycobabble. It was clearly a fight or flight response on the dads part. In a time when so many kids dont have a father figure, this kid knows in his soul that daddy is there.

One punch was completely appropriate

Tard? What are you, 12?

^ Januari: Yeah, I did say I can completely understand his reaction, BUT my issue is that people are viewing this and going 'RIGHT ON! YEAH!', when really it's not the ideal outcome at all and shouldn't really be applauded. I would have said a solid push to get the guy away from his child would have been a lot better than a punch to the face, would have resulted in him not being near his child anymore, but not be anywhere near as violent.

Then the talking could commence.

So, I DO completely understand the reaction, and know it comes from a protective place, just wish that people weren't so quick to applaud violence as a correct reaction to such things, especially in front of a child.

There is nothing at all positive about this video. Downvote.

[kicks Spoco's kid if he has one]

Sad affair this. I understand the father though.

don't know it's his dad, don't know what the kid said, don't know the guy was mentally handicapped, no audio, nuthin, so let's all draw a conclusion.

Wow, I feel really bad for everyone involved. I can't imagine how horrible that man must have felt when he realized he just clocked a mentally handicapped guy. Sad video all around.

Good thing he didn't have a gun.

Looked disproportional to me.

This video is great!

I'm sorry I don't think he hit the kid because the kid was making too much noise. Since there is no audio to this video it will be impossible to tell.

What I see is a retarded man who is distracted and on his cellphone, then out of the corner of his eye he sees someone/something charging at him and he puts his foot out to stop it to make sure that thing doesn't invade his personal space.

The way the Father responded was completely out of line.

^"What I see is a retarded man who is distracted and on his cellphone, then out of the corner of his eye he sees someone/something charging at him and he puts his foot out to stop it to make sure that thing doesn't invade his personal space."


Something Charging At him? The kid ran up to the counter to eagerly get a burger, thats hardly charging at him. as far as putting out his foot to make sure he didn't invade his personal space... are you retarded? he walked four steps up to the kid, and kicked him. you don't need sound to see that. I'm not sticking up for the father either, the other kid was obviously retarded and decking him wasn't the best choice in the world... I mean seriously, if you can't go out in public without kicking and punching people around you... maybe you should just stay at home, that goes for the both of them.

Though, if someone kicked my little kid for no reason, i really can't say what i'd do.

What bothers me is that the father never looks back at his kid to see if he's OK, he just jumped at a callous occasion to hit someone.

I think the guy on the cell phone is handicapped. He responded to the child like another child would. The man then hit the guy, just like another child would. If I were there and threw the "father" through the window, then I would be in the wrong as well. The "father" obviously didn't care about wether or not the kid was hurt. The kid appeared fine. The man on the ground did not appear fine. The "father's" reaction was not ok.
p.s. I upvoted because I believe that honest dipictions of violence need to be seen. Anyone who views this and is disturbed by it is probably better at handling conflict than anyone who just says 'right on'. We need this kind of discourse about violence.

the fact that the guy threw one punch knew he was no longer a threat AFTER the fact. I cannot blame the fathers response because of the initial attack, it all went down very quick. There was no way for the father to know, or assume, the kick was going to be the last thing he did. I think its a good lesson for the disabled guy.. dont let your attitude take a hold of you in the real world, or someone else will take a hold of you.

The father seems mentally handicapped as well if he was unable to tell that pushing a handicapped guy away would be enough to end any conceivable threat.

Dependable father? With the absence of mental control displayed here, it's just as likely he'll skip out on the kid before he turns 8.

>> ^therealblankman:
There is nothing at all positive about this video. Downvote.


This reasoning puzzles me. I think some videos deserve to be sifted because they're so terrible.

Also, I'm laughing at the argument over morality you guys are engaged in. Funny, funny stuff.

Some of the replies here are just retarded. Totally and utterly we-todd-did.

If you think the father should have acted with restraint, then you seem to be missing the point of instinctual actions. Bears are gentle, loving creatures, until they think you're attacking their young. Then they swipe their paw at you and leave you in a heap of skin and hanging flesh from bone.

I am a pacifist, but if I perceived someone was hurting my child, I'd probably knock them out, too.

Oh, and I posted this because I thought it was absolutely HILARIOUS to see Forrest Gump get knocked out. So sue me.

TIMMY!

Oh, and the dialogue was actually something like:

Handi-capable youngin': I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles! Oh look! I have a ring ring on my phony phone! Hello? I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles!
Kid: Turtles are gay! Turtles are gay! Turtles are gay!
Handi-capable youngster: Turtles are not gay! Well, some of them might be, but most of them are neat-o! You doo-doo head! I kick you now!
Father: GET THESE MOTHERFUCKING TURTLES OUT MY MOTHERFUCKING PLANE! *punch*

I wonder if the ones blaming the father would do that if he was white...

"Wow dad, so violence really DOES solve everything!"

Daddy has a mean right cross!

Depending on which state they were in the guy was lucky to not have been shot.

People take serious offense to an assault on a child, rightly so, this was misdemeanor assault. Followed up with aggravated assault.

On second thought... maybe they both had aggravated assault: See bold text.

1. an attempt to cause or purposely, knowingly, or recklessly causing bodily injury to another; or,
2. negligently causing bodily injury to another with a deadly weapon.

>> ^Smugglarn:
I wonder if the ones blaming the father would do that if he was white...


Was race really something that everyone noticed immediately? I honestly had to go back and watch again to see what you were talking about.

I would have blamed the father if he was Jewish. Those damn wetbacks.

>> ^Smugglarn:
I wonder if the ones blaming the father would do that if he was white...

I think what happened is very unfair, I mean there's a lot more chin on that guy with the phone.

hindsight is 20/20...

the father isn't watching real life events with a title over the top stating "mentally handicapped guy just kicked my child"

he is reacting with what little information that he has: a stranger just kicked his young son.

I can't fault the father. If another kid had kicked his son, then yes, he would have been way out of line, but this was an adult who could seriously injure a child. That the guy is MR doesn't make him less of a threat to the kid, nor make it acceptable behavior. Equality for the handicapped.

That is exactly right Instellar...

And if you look at the clock he has 1 second to indentify that a man just kicked his child (son,brother,nephew, a child)and then stand over him in a position to do it again...

one second simply does not allow for enough time to work through a precise way of resolving this issue by using 'just enough' force... it doens't allow you to identify the man as possibly being handicap (I mean we are assuming he is from the title, but looking at him is hardly definitive)... and one second is certianly not enough to think of the exact amount of force required to seperate your son and the man you just saw kick him... And looking at it with 20/20 without a fraction of the emotion a father or relative would feel...

I don't know... it's just to easy to throw this man under the buss 'after the fact'.

that's exactly what i would want daddy to do if some guy attacked me.

kids are intelligent enough to know the difference between attacking and defending. it's not like the guy kicked him in the balls on the floor or something.

as for the mentally handicapped thing, well that's not really a full diagnosis is it. and anyway, i would think it makes it more reasonable to take violent action to stop the attack, if you suspect the attacker is not ... let's say... predictable.

I'm willing to bet my life savings that if it were a cop throwing the punch in this vid, you'd see all these people who are saying Daddy dearest was right in throwing the haymaker screaming police brutality instead--even keeping all the other factors in the vid constant. Such is the way of the Sift.

>> ^tagomi77:
^I mean seriously, if you can't go out in public without kicking and punching people around you... maybe you should just stay at home, that goes for the both of them.

Amen to that.

>> ^SDGundamX:
I'm willing to bet my life savings that if it were a cop throwing the punch in this vid.....


Oh, you mean a trained professional who knows how to deal with these situations, can act calmy under pressure, is not related to the victim of the attack, and is paid to serve the community...

I see the comparison.

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lame.

I'd go further than everyone else defending the father and say this is a good lesson for the kid as well. Seems to me we live in a society of people so utterly terrified of the use of force that it is considered absolutely unacceptable in any and every situation, without any exception what so ever.

The father here has a split second to decide how much of a threat this stranger that kicked his son is, and how to stop the threat. Erring on the side of caution DOES NOT mean using the least force possible, it means using as much force as necessary to ensure the VICTIM is protected.

his is a good example to the kid of when force is acceptable and how much. Enough to be sure to protect the victim, but not following up with more just for the sake of vengeance.

And no, it doesn't matter if the guy kicking the kid was handicapped or not, either way he was physically attacking a child and needed to be stopped. The only difference in the situation would be in handling the follow up after the immediate threat was over with.

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that aint no ostrich . Fist to Face, Hopefully lesson learned. even if he has the mentality of a 4 year old I think you would remember that one.

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