It's so easy to tell when this guy is confused, lying through his teeth, or just entirely unsure about what he's saying because he stutters and stumbles. He's as bad a public speaker as Bush is.
Also, you've gotta love his little remark at the end. Key words "average American"... as in only what the government tells you. Anyone who does a little research will see that the reporter was correct in his assertion that the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is the power behind Iranian foreign policy. He has also has issued a fatwa saying the production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons was forbidden under Islam. The fatwa was cited in an official statement by the Iranian government at an August 2005 meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna.
Also, for the record, Ahmadinejad never said that Israel should be "wiped off the map" in the American sense of the phrase because "no such idiom exists in Persian," according to Juan Cole, a University of Michigan Professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History. Ahmadinejad's statement should be translated as:
The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad).
In other words, the Zionist-Jewish regime, which has oppressed the Palestinian population in the region and seems to have a leash around the United States' neck, should collapse. That's no different than our own president trotting around talking about an Axis of Evil and saying we should invade Iraq. Neither of them is right, of course, but there should be a dialogue and diplomacy in an attempt to find a middle ground and prevent unnecessary bloodshed.
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NetRunnerYou literally beat me on this by 53 seconds.
It also proves that not only is McCain not well versed, he hasn't even read the Wikipedia article on Iran.
MaxWilderThe average American has no fucking clue who the leader of Iran is. They just know they're evil and hate us and want to nuke us.
I'll keep upvoting these vids, but I'm afraid the people who need to see them are not using the internet.
uhohzombies>> ^MaxWilder:
Still, who knows, with the traffic we get here it's possible that people see things here which they may not have otherwise seen and pass them along. We can spread the things people should know about this bozo McSame virally.
The average American has no fucking clue who the leader of Iran is. They just know they're evil and hate us and want to nuke us.
I'll keep upvoting these vids, but I'm afraid the people who need to see them are not using the internet.
Haha, to be fair they probably are, but they don't really wander far from Foxnews.com and Walmart.com and especially don't hang around LiberalSift
westythis guy better not get in. i mean Fu*ks sake how can sumone smile like that and not be kicked in the balls what a toss bag sutch a retard polititoin surly its obvouse to amercans that ther goverment is rigged there is no other way compleat and utter retards could be in these positoins.
KreegathIt's so easy to tell when this guy is confused, lying through his teeth, or just entirely unsure about what he's saying because he stutters and stumbles. He's as bad a public speaker as Bush is.
Doesn't it make you want to have a beer with him though?
kronosposeidonKhamenei, Ahmadinejad, bin Laden, what's the difference? They're all brown, and they're all MOOSLIMS. That's all you need to know if you're John McCain.
All he needs is another 5 years (his marketing team learned that 100 years wasn't going over so well) to straighten out this whole mess, which coincidentally would require us to re-elect him in 2012 to see his plan succeed.
I think I'll have that beer now.
doogleI don't think I can say that this journalist has anything on McCain here.
If McCain has anything to be blamed for, it's for making the leap that it's Iran that Obama is talking about, but that one isn't much.
Comparing the formal and political leaders of Iran (Ahmedinejad vs. TheOtherGuy) is like pointing out the Queen is the head of state of Britain and Gordon Brown (new guy) isn't.
It gets even muddier here in Canada, our Prime Minister, Stephen Harper (who?) isn't the formal head of state, and Governor General Michaelle Jean (who?), is actually the Queen's representative in Canada.
McCain may not be right, but he's not wrong to point out Ahmedinejad as the political leader.
biminimWho, I wonder, IS the "average American"? When John McCain asks that question, whom does he have in mind?
For others here: who do YOU think is an "average American"? An Italian-American housewife whose husband is German-Irish-American and works in city government in Beaumont, TX?
Is the "average American" white? Hispanic? Asian? African-American? Male?
And, gosh, do we really want the "average American" to be the yardstick by which we judge knowledge of foreign affairs?
kronosposeidon>> ^doogle:
I don't think I can say that this journalist has anything on McCain here.
If McCain has anything to be blamed for, it's for making the leap that it's Iran that Obama is talking about, but that one isn't much.
Comparing the formal and political leaders of Iran (Ahmedinejad vs. TheOtherGuy) is like pointing out the Queen is the head of state of Britain and Gordon Brown (new guy) isn't.
It gets even muddier here in Canada, our Prime Minister, Stephen Harper (who?) isn't the formal head of state, and Governor General Michaelle Jean (who?), is actually the Queen's representative in Canada.
McCain may not be right, but he's not wrong to point out Ahmedinejad as the political leader.
We're talking about REAL power here, doogle, not just mere formalities. QE2 has for all intents and purposes ZERO power in Canada AND the UK, whereas Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has REAL power in Iran. He is NO mere figurehead, like Canada's Governor General, or Her Majesty herself. Be informed before you downvote someone's opinion, even if I'm speaking in a satirical voice.
doogleKronos -
I wasn't speaking to your tongue-in-cheek posting - I was speaking to the video. But do keep your satire - I read it there.
You, and the journalist, have made your points - Ahmedinejad isn't the head of Iran. You're both right and I don't dispute that. And I support it as well, as my examples have as well. I'm saying McCain ain't necessarily wrong to point to Ahmedinejad. IMHO it's not an unreasonable conclusion considering the blurred lines of the power heads in some countries.
NetRunner>> ^doogle:
I'm saying McCain ain't necessarily wrong to point to Ahmedinejad. IMHO it's not an unreasonable conclusion considering the blurred lines of the power heads in some countries.
We're not talking about "some countries", we're talking about a country Bush and McCain want to go to war with.
McCain isn't supposed to be just an average American, he wants to be the Commander in Chief, and the political head of our government.
We're talking about who has control of the military of Iran, and who's in charge of their nuclear program.
Experts say it's not blurry, it's Ayatollah Khamenei.
That doesn't mean McCain "ain't necessarily wrong", it means McCain either doesn't know who Khamenei is, or thinks there's a good reason to browbeat a reporter for the merest suggestion that there is more than one person in the government of Iran.
If McCain knew who the guy was, why not say "You make a good point, but I'm still against diplomacy with anyone from the Iranian government because..." and then behind the scenes go "ya know, Ayatollah Khamenei is a scarier name, and I'm sure he's said bad stuff about Israel, next time let's see if we can't incorporate him and quotes from in our speech..."
Instead, his response made it pretty clear he didn't have the faintest clue who Khamenei was, and arrogantly proclaimed the questioner must be wrong.
That confident ignorance is the other main element of the video, I would say.
McCain didn't just say 2 + 2 = 5 on camera, he continued on insisting that despite mathematicians saying 2 + 2 = 4, he's still right about 2 + 2 equalling 5, and tried to ridicule mathematicians for saying otherwise.
It's this willful denial of inconvenient facts that is the most poisonous aspect of the Bush regime, and McCain is signaling here that he intends to mimic that aspect as well.
doogleStupid is as stupid does, and McCain does what McCain does. And I expect the semi-defacto nominee of the Republican party to act like him - and not necessarily know much about countries they want to go to war with.
I just don't think the reporter has a gem of an item here, as much as others have about McCain thinking Iran was training Al-Qaeda or misspeaking about the leader of Germany. He made a reasonable gaff and he made his point. McCain gets stuff wrong, but I don't see this one as one to be chalked up as definitive for "McCain gets the facts wrong...again" category. There are better examples.
But no number of examples would be enough for some. I guess I for one am looking for quality of the examples...not quantity.
(for the most part there are both!)
honkeytonk73This guy is clueless puppet. You should fear who is behind the hand holding this goon up.
RyjkyjI would have said Ahmadinejad.
ashes2flamessays...Another snickering, giggling, snide, condescending, ignorant, arrogant, smug chuckling fuck face for President. Just what we need. This clip really pisses me off.
NetRunnerHey look, the McCain campaign took my advice:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/mccain_okay_ahmadinejad_isnt_t.php
McCain now includes Khamenei in his screed against Obama, and gets to say Israel is a cancerous tumor, too!
choggie"surly its obvouse to amercans that ther goverment is rigged there is no other way compleat and utter retards could be in these positoins."
not retards westy, the 3 we have to stomach are dangerous tools-Skeletor is being used, so's Clitless, so's O'Bummer-get a clue cross-ponder, not much different than yer, 24-hour surveillance , no gun ownership-havin, bought, sold, and paid for country.....God Shave Her Pubes
Drachen_Jagersays...Is he saying that if the majority of Americans believe in something it must be true? I just ask because if that's his policy I look forward to adding Greenland to Canada.
grinterI know that it's been said before, but I love the add placement on videosift.
"John McCain for President, Join Our Team."
..um, no thanks.
quantumushroomI won't enjoy voting for RINO McCain, but it's either him or one of the two marxists.
Tofumar^ Marxist = a word QM uses all the time, but still doesn't know its actual meaning.
NetRunner>> ^quantumushroom:
I won't enjoy voting for RINO McCain, but it's either him or one of the two marxists.
QM, I'm curious, if you could magically trade McCain for any other living Republican, who would you want as the nominee?
jwrayStephen Colbert!
BicycleRepairMan>> ^quantumushroom:
I won't enjoy voting for RINO McCain, but it's either him or one of the two marxists.
Lol, You dont know who Karl Marx was, do you? Have you ever read a book? ANY book? I know reading is probably a bit too Marxist for your liking, but maybe you could try it as a sort of "know your enemy"-type experiment?
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doremifaI agree with doogle. However, I've noticed the slick, Republican rhetoric conveying Obama as one to "have a cup of coffee with" projected enemy leaders. Communication with rogue leaders can come in many forms and it is GWB used the sitting-with-Hitler false analogy and it is just going to be a communicative game that I hope more than 60% of US voters can see right through.
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