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SevenFingerssays...Doesn't look too bad.
Hive13says...*promote
siftbotsays...Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 9:43am PST - promote requested by Hive13.
Sagemindsays...The biggest problem I see with a Supeman movie is finding a believable villain that can stand up to superman without it looking campy.
Marvel has done a great job redefining the franchise with the look of modern reality. Bat Man is believable because he's just a regular man with gadgets.
With Superman, he's invincible in so many ways. If they ignore half his powers and don't use them when he should be, then it's a hard sell.
So then how do you take a guy with the utmost strength, incredible smarts, who flies, has heat laser and cold breath, Doesn't need oxygen to breath, is impervious to the elements and disease, accelerated healing, kick-ass fighting skills, superhuman speed, X-ray vision, superhuman hearing and vision and an eidetic memory, and create a believable conflict using today's reality?
Other than Kryptonite, he has no other weaknesses. Lex is the one who discovers the weakness. So how do you sell that in a new movie. Once you introduce Kryptonite with today's technologies, the weapons against Superman can mostly make him obsolete in quite a matter of fact way.
So it's either he's too powerful or he's quickly dealt with. So which is it?
Oh and not make it look campy, don't forget that part.
probiesays...Ugh. Another "with great power, comes great responsibility", preachy, overly oppressive, dark but "cool" superhero movie trailer. If it's indicative of what the full movie will bring, I'll pass. When did comic book movies lose their sense of fun? Why SO serious? (pun intended)
Want to know why Iron Man (1) was such a hit? Because it was fun. Same with Superman (1978). Or The Avengers. Emulate those movies and not the heaviness of Batman all the time.
Oh, and don't swing the other way too far either. The world only needs one Superman III.
kevingrrsays...I don't think we need another Iron Man. I love Iron Man, but Clark Kent is not Tony Stark.
If you want funny read a Deadpool comic.
Superman has other weaknesses - a quick example is his compassion. Superman may be nearly invulnerable but the people he loves are not.
lucky760says...Don't forget magic.
Also, he's physically invincible, but his love for mankind and Lois Lane is also a weakness.
Other than Kryptonite, he has no other weaknesses.
EMPIREsays...Yeah, Tony Stark and Clark Kent are two very different individuals. Clark always puts others first, to the point that he won't use all his strength and power to its full extent, because he knows he could cause more damage than the villain he's trying to stop. Yes, he's a boy scout, but there's a bit of a lesson in a story about an alien who tries to act more compassionate towards humans, than most humans.
Also, he's THE superhero. period. I don't care if they make his powers and villains not realistic. I'm so fucking tired of lex luthor. He's a great villain, but geez, give it a rest already. There's a bunch of other great villains in the superman lore, and it's about time we see him be matched physically and not just intelectually. Zod is one, Darkseid is another. I would also love to see Doomsday or Brainiac.
L0ckysays...His humanity is his weakness.
So then how do you take a guy with the utmost strength, incredible smarts, who flies, has heat laser and cold breath, Doesn't need oxygen to breath, is impervious to the elements and disease, accelerated healing, kick-ass fighting skills, superhuman speed, X-ray vision, superhuman hearing and vision and an eidetic memory, and create a believable conflict using today's reality?
Other than Kryptonite, he has no other weaknesses.
BoneRemakesays...Ahhh Christ, that's one of the most pathetic ones of all.
You know what would be the ultimate Superhero ! Superman that has a robot chip in his brain. He can calculate the odds of every scenario and literally do the most possible greater good in his given instance.
T-4000 SUPERMAN
His humanity is his weakness.
L0ckysays...It depends. You can go two ways with Superman, an action movie or a character movie.
An action movie will always fail because of everything said above; but a character story can work.
It's been tried many times and I've never seen it work, but that's a minor detail
Ahhh Christ, that's one of the most pathetic ones of all.
L0ckysays...Caveat: Superman was good for it's time (character driven?); and Superman II wasn't too bad either (invoked the Kryptonite, albeit as people).
I actually enjoyed Superman III the most when I was a kid; again they had to bring on the krpytonite. I saw it again a few years ago and wished I hadn't.
The less said about Superman IV the better.
There are fans of Smallville (character driven) and Superman Returns (yet more kryptonite) but I thought they were both dull.
The new one seems to be character driven again. I mostly have hopes for it because of the people involved.
EvilDeathBeejokingly says...My greatest failing is that I'm too much of a perfectionist
His humanity is his weakness.
Deanosays...Warning : Nolan is involved. This will suck no question.
non_sequitur_per_sesays...Superman doesn't have accelerated healing, he has invulnerability to non-magical attacks.
Lol I love how you go on this big long rant, and half the stuff you say is just rubbish. At least get your facts straight before whining.
The biggest problem I see with a Supeman movie is finding a believable villain that can stand up to superman without it looking campy.
Marvel has done a great job redefining the franchise with the look of modern reality. Bat Man is believable because he's just a regular man with gadgets.
With Superman, he's invincible in so many ways. If they ignore half his powers and don't use them when he should be, then it's a hard sell.
So then how do you take a guy with the utmost strength, incredible smarts, who flies, has heat laser and cold breath, Doesn't need oxygen to breath, is impervious to the elements and disease, accelerated healing, kick-ass fighting skills, superhuman speed, X-ray vision, superhuman hearing and vision and an eidetic memory, and create a believable conflict using today's reality?
Other than Kryptonite, he has no other weaknesses. Lex is the one who discovers the weakness. So how do you sell that in a new movie. Once you introduce Kryptonite with today's technologies, the weapons against Superman can mostly make him obsolete in quite a matter of fact way.
So it's either he's too powerful or he's quickly dealt with. So which is it?
Oh and not make it look campy, don't forget that part.
Stusays...butthurt much?
Warning : Nolan is involved. This will suck no question.
Sagemindsays..."Healing Factor – Superman is shown to possess remarkable recuperative powers that allow him to quickly heal from wounds and makes him immune to all forms of human or Earthly diseases, illnesses, viruses and toxins."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_and_abilities_of_Superman
" Healing factor: Superman could regenerate physical damage to his body at an accelerated rate. He was able to regenerate when Wonder Woman slit his throat with her tiara in Wonder Woman #219. In the series Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Superman regenerates his body after being reduced to near a skeleton by a special nuke that was designed to blot out sun light and disrupt energy. Superman's healing rate has been inconsistently portrayed, however. In the first issue of the "Superman/Batman" comic, Alfred is able to remove a Kryptonite bullet from Superman's body without fear of the wound closing (probably because the Kryptonite was affecting his ability to heal). "
http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman%27s_Powers_and_Abilities
I'm sorry, what were you saying?
Something about getting your facts straight?
Superman doesn't have accelerated healing, he has invulnerability to non-magical attacks.
Lol I love how you go on this big long rant, and half the stuff you say is just rubbish. At least get your facts straight before whining.
AeroMechanicalsays...Doomsday killed him, have him fight Doomsday. Aliens. Whatever.
So long as the special effects are good.
Sagemindsays...Okay,
Weaknesses
1). His love of humanity - Absolutely
2). Lois Lane (and Jonathan & Martha Kent)
3). Kryptonite - Proven Absolutely
4). Red Sun or Starless worlds would void his powers but first you have to make him go there.
5). Magic - Can slow him down, but can't kill him
6). Virus X - Kryptonian leprosy, the only form of disease for which Kryptonians had not found a cure (Turns out Blue Kryptonite is the cure)
7). Mind Control - He has no powers against mind control but he is a strong minded individual and has battled this and won before.
8 ). Extreme amounts of force/impact ("Darkseid and a few others have this power").
9). No air/Food/water - Superman could survive indefinitely without food, water, or rest due to the yellow sun's radiation sustaining him.
Shazam - Almost killed Superman with his lightning bolts which are magic
Lex Luthor used a magical artifact called the Powerstone to take his powers away.
Wonder Woman's magic sword can cut him.
Hulk kicked his ass once too but wasn't able to follow through.
Looks like his next major weakness after Kryptonite is Magic. Not all magic though. Only some magic granted by Gods, and then only some gods has the power to affect him. Magic has been able to lay him out but has never stopped him.
Check this forum where they clearly argue it out:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/archive/index.php/t-72127.html
antsays...Not too bad. I hope it doesn't suck!
ChosenOnesays...I wouldn't be surprised if Brainiac were in this movie.. I can see them doing a surprise twist villain with this movie..
kir_mokumsays...bad guy is zod (played by michael shannon which is pretty rad), according to imdb.
sadicioussays...Writing a good superman story in a movie format that most will love can only be accomplished by one heck of a writer.
Expectations are too high. The only thing that I can see being a good story is one to which having most/all of Superman's powers does not directly combat his conflict. Things like. politics, disease, poverty, ethics, etc. While I personally would love to see a fictional world political conflict be tackled by a superman, it isn't *the* Superman story people would expect.
L0ckysays...How about Superman: Superstar
He grows a beard; wears red sandals; swaps the big S for a big J; then goes to the Vatican and trolls the Pope.
rychansays...I thought it looked awesome. Actually I think it might be my favorite trailer since Star Trek. http://videosift.com/video/J-J-Abrams-Star-Trek-Trailer-3-5-2009
Sepacoresays...Superman is boring, the deck is stacked way too much in his favor and to have any real competition his opponent has to basically be a god.
If he didn't hinder himself with his passive super-caring ability, nothing could touch him as he'd annihilate any threat well before it got within striking range or before they knew they'd just been attacked. Install @BoneRemake's scenario calculating chip and never have a challenge again. I prefer hero's that have to actually work a bit for their victory.
@Sagemind nailed it on first post.
Quadrophonicsays...I would love to see that. I think most writers/directors had no clue what the philosophical/ethical questions are that a character with the power of superman has to confront. It's basically not the bad guy/ Kryptonite / magic which could destroy superman, that makes superman interesting. What the hell, NO superhero movie should be interesting because of the part where the hero could get hurt. In the end there is one thing we all know when we go to a superhero movie, the hero survives in the end, maybe we're cheering for the bad guy or hope the world will get what it deserves but deep down we know that the hero will find a way to stop the crisis. It's just the way these movies work. On the other hand what I find interesting, is to see what the hero has to sacrifice in order to save the world. Sure Superman will still be super tomorrow, but what about the rest of the world?
Did you see Watchmen? Great movie (ok against what i said earlier, in the end one of the heroes dies) but besides that, it shows brilliantly how to work with a unstoppable superhuman being and how to create a crisis that doesn't need something like Kryptonite/Magic to work as a movie. You don't even know/see the bad guy until the last quarter of the movie. And one of the Heroes (Dr. Manhatten) is literally unstoppable, I mean he can change reality with his will as far as I know. But even he is of no help at all in the given circumstances. You can say the biggest enemy of Dr. Manhatten is himself, I would also say this applies to superman. And I think that is what makes it great.
On the other side you can make a movie like "The Avengers" which is great as a action movie but I don't think it's a good superhero movie. I mean when i watched this movie, all i did was waiting for the grand finale. The final super fight where the avengers fight together. And what was it? Just a group of super dudes/dudesses killing one exchangeable alien thingy after another... wow great tension you achieved there... I mean in the end what is the great crisis they fight? That their own Bosses try to nuke them, because everything else was under control at that moment.
It does make great action material, but what I want to see (and sadly that doesn't seem what "the people" want to see) is a superhero movie (especially speaking of superman) where the hero has to fight more than just interchangeable aliens in a big CGI fuckfest.
While I personally would love to see a fictional world political conflict be tackled by a superman, it isn't *the* Superman story people would expect.
spawnflaggersays...I want to know how Superman shaves?
I mean this is a guy where bullets bounce off his eyeballs...
Does he have a Kryptonite razor? Surely he would have started growing facial hair before he discovered Kryptonite.
Before this trailer, I just always assumed that his alien species didn't have any facial hair.
Maybe he uses his laser-eyes and a mirror to cut hair.
L0ckysays...Or maybe he waxes.
Deanosays...No my butt is just fine.
I really liked his Insomnia remake where he had nice performances from Pacino and Williams and Memento was amazing.
He's simply not good when he tries to do epic/action films. There's a good video on here examining the cuts and shot choices in the second Batman film and how it creates a confused narrative i.e the action has to be consistent and make sense. I can't place the link, something like "in the cut" I think.
BTW there was an odd media reaction around Batman (or it could have been Inception) where various critics were suggesting he was the next Kubrik. Anyone with common sense would see that's nonsense. He needs a few more Insomnias/Mementos under his belt before that connection is even dreamed about.
I do totally respect his desire to avoid CGI where possible which should be applauded from the rooftops.
butthurt much?
L0ckysays...Don't forget The Prestige!
Also, Inception was great.
I think he's done a great job with Batman; a lot better than anyone else has. It got away from him a little, but it will take a lot to better The Dark Knight in any future Batman movies.
All being said though, he could have just made The Dark Knight instead of a trilogy; but that's business.
I really liked his Insomnia remake where he had nice performances from Pacino and Williams and Memento was amazing.
xxovercastxxsays...Last I heard, they got rid of that one, too. Did they bring it back?
Other than Kryptonite, he has no other weaknesses.
kir_mokumsays...gais. i said zod. and trust me. he gets knocked around a bit.
Last I heard, they got rid of that one, too. Did they bring it back?
CheshireSmilesays...boy howdy i'd love to see darkseid in a movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl_5UwS57X8
Yeah, Tony Stark and Clark Kent are two very different individuals. Clark always puts others first, to the point that he won't use all his strength and power to its full extent, because he knows he could cause more damage than the villain he's trying to stop. Yes, he's a boy scout, but there's a bit of a lesson in a story about an alien who tries to act more compassionate towards humans, than most humans.
Also, he's THE superhero. period. I don't care if they make his powers and villains not realistic. I'm so fucking tired of lex luthor. He's a great villain, but geez, give it a rest already. There's a bunch of other great villains in the superman lore, and it's about time we see him be matched physically and not just intelectually. Zod is one, Darkseid is another. I would also love to see Doomsday or Brainiac.
dingenssays...Superman vs Voldemort?
Don't forget magic.
Also, he's physically invincible, but his love for mankind and Lois Lane is also a weakness.
Sniper007says...Lois Lane better be fugly like the original.
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