.........thats fucking horrible. Why did she not have armed guards?

She had no idea? Well read a book once in a while...
I mean, don't get me wrong, in my western view of things, this is a report of the most horrible and disgusting human behaviour.

But her in this mob not concerned at least a bit AND withouth any knowledge of what is BOUND to happen? That's like going straight into a horde of hungry lions, covered in tasty tasty blood, attacking their chilren and wondering why am I in a lion's digestive system suddenly? In case you did not know, lions like digesting things.

My grandmother, who died at the age of 100 in 1989, told me "Since you are a woman and won't be strong enough to defend yourself if someone is deadly serious on their intent - never allow yourself to get into a situation where you could be compromised."

Excellent advice from a sage lady...I wish that Lara would have realized that herself.

My mother is a journalist (obviously never listened to her mother's advice), and I think that reporters easily forget exactly how unsafe they are. They feel a sense of distance from the event, as they aren't participants. The equipment also seems to bring a false sense of protection, and adds to the feeling of detachment.


A very sad story that could have been avoided.

Fucking animals. What a gruesome nightmare.

I'm not sure I want to listen to the details...the video says "an error occurred, try again later." I'm going to go away to rethink for a bit.

Yeah... sure makes me think twice about our support for the rebels in these regions. I say let them deal with it themselves.

I'm imagining the scene like a zombie movie, them tearing her freaking limb from limb - didn't expect that. Good thing she made it out of there alive.

Herd behavior
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_behavior

SS: What types of situations lend themselves to mobs?
TA: Group violence is most likely to occur when the group is large, people are able to remain anonymous, and people experience a diffusion of responsibility. Certain situations also play a role, such as when resources are scarce, we are surrounded by like-minded people, and/or when emotions are aroused. - http://source.southuniversity.edu/examining-the-mob-mentality-31395.aspx

It's incredible how calmly she tells the story. I don't know how anyone recovers from this.

>> ^AdrianBlack:

My grandmother, who died at the age of 100 in 1989, told me "Since you are a woman and won't be strong enough to defend yourself if someone is deadly serious on their intent - never allow yourself to get into a situation where you could be compromised."
Excellent advice from a sage lady...I wish that Lara would have realized that herself.
My mother is a journalist (obviously never listened to her mother's advice), and I think that reporters easily forget exactly how unsafe they are. They feel a sense of distance from the event, as they aren't participants. The equipment also seems to bring a false sense of protection, and adds to the feeling of detachment.

A very sad story that could have been avoided.


I think maybe you guys are being a tad harsh on her. She knows her job involves taking risks. She had some security but you just never know. These people are always in tight situations. Most times I read about reporters having close scrapes but this was just a terrible attack based on hatred and incitement.

Maybe there is a false sense of security but if this was ever a situation that you thought a crowd would welcome a tv crew, well this was surely it. I guess it says a great deal about Egyptian society.

Whatever she lost that night, it certainly wasn't even an ounce of class.

It does seem a bit naive and terrible risk assessment to have a white, young, attractive female reporter to enter a throng of excited arab men after a very violent scenario happening in the country. I don't know who's bad idea it was for the location, hers or the producers. But yeah obviously it was horrific situation and I'm surprised from the account she didn't get killed.

I don't want to badmouth Logan's suffering but I have an overwhelming feeling that this is nothing but exploitation of the worst kind of voyeurism.

she is an extraordinary person - so strong to come through this experience in the way that she appears to have done so...

Nuke the animals. That is all.

You guys above do realize that putting the blame on the woman in such a situation is the oldest, most imbecilistic response to rape? "It's her fault she was attacked because she was dressed that way/she danced that way/acted that way"...

The only reason she was attacked that night is because she is a woman.

I can't watch the whole clip... Ugh.. I just can't...

Fucking savages, fucking savages.

Doing this puts you right into the sub-human category.

Disgusting.

@Delirium

If you actually read the comments, no one here has blamed the victim. They are merely pointing out that the network and the crew failed to realize that sending a white, female reporter into a mob of sexually repressed men in a frenzied state is a terrible idea.

The worst part is that none of these men will be punished for their crime. So long as women remain silent, that they are considered not the victim, but the guilty party, the men mere victims of their sexuality, such crimes can continue in perpetuity, unchallenged by society. But that's why she has to speak out, to start the process of change. I wonder though, how many middle eastern men will watch this on their local news station.

*long

Video is already flagged long - ignoring long request by EDD.

Well said, Vex.

http://videosift.com/member/Delirium" title="member since July 29th, 2009" class="profilelink">Delirium
If you actually read the comments, no one here has blamed the victim. They are merely pointing out that the network and the crew failed to realize that sending a white, female reporter into a mob of sexually repressed men in a frenzied state is a terrible idea.

Where can I see the video? I really need it...for educational purposes.

"It's incredible how calmly she tells the story. I don't know how anyone recovers from this."
That's because it's a fake viral story to boost up ratings. Notice, how there are no videos of her getting raped anywhere. No scars either. It's all BS.

The video's length is 13:37, and so is Lara Logan.

>> ^Mindfuck:

Where can I see the video? I really need it...for educational purposes.
"It's incredible how calmly she tells the story. I don't know how anyone recovers from this."
That's because it's a fake viral story to boost up ratings. Notice, how there are no videos of her getting raped anywhere. No scars either. It's all BS.


Wait, what? WHAT?

Vex: "If you actually read the comments, no one here has blamed the victim. They are merely pointing out that the network and the crew failed to realize that sending a white, female reporter into a mob of sexually repressed men in a frenzied state is a terrible idea."

Really?

Luxury_pie: "But her in this mob not concerned at least a bit AND withouth any knowledge of what is BOUND to happen? That's like going straight into a horde of hungry lions, covered in tasty tasty blood, attacking their chilren and wondering why am I in a lion's digestive system suddenly? In case you did not know, lions like digesting things"

Adrianblack: " "Since you are a woman and won't be strong enough to defend yourself if someone is deadly serious on their intent - never allow yourself to get into a situation where you could be compromised."

Excellent advice from a sage lady...I wish that Lara would have realized that herself."

It was "bound to happen" so she "should have been more careful". If "Lara would have realized that herself" then it would not have happened.

This appears to me like the typical reaction to a rape story. They are looking for what the woman victimized has done wrong. I believe that the wrong lies solely with the rapist, in all circumstances.

Irrespective of whether I am right or not in my interpretation, we can at least all side against Mindfuck on this. Right?

horrible

Religion of Peace?

Aww.. I'm not the only one who noticed how leet this video is....

@Delirium

"This appears to me like the typical reaction to a rape story. They are looking for what the woman victimized has done wrong. I believe that the wrong lies solely with the rapist, in all circumstances."

And I think that this is intolerably idealistic, and there's a cultural fanaticism about never questioning whether or not the rape could have been avoided should the victim have altered their behaviour (in a reasonable way).

Rape is possibly the vilest, most destructive common crime there is, and gang rape is a perfect example of the inalienable barbarism of the human species. Two people that I love have been raped. I know what it does, and I know what the victim has to carry with them through the rest of their life. But in all things, you're taking risks. Part of being intelligent is balancing the risk in whatever it is you're doing.

The wrong does always lie with the rapist or rapists, that's for certain. Questioning whether the circumstances that the woman was in were at all negligent isn't, in my mind, seeking to attribute any blame to the victim, although there are plenty of misogynists who would. But rape is too awful, and too horrific, to allow ourselves to wander around in some fantasy land where cause and effect doesn't operate. People are not to be trusted freely and easily.

These sorts of situations are dangerous for women precisely because of the inherent weakness and grotesquery of man, especially in a mob like this, where responsibility can be diffused so broadly. Add to it that it's an Islamic society, a religion with an associated culture that almost literally belongs in the 9th century.

We can't afford to not be practical.

The only wrong here is what was done to Lara. I don't think what happened to her was her 'fault', nor am I blaming her. I am blaming the crew's lack of common sense.
Voltaire said: "Common sense is not that common." This applies to both sexes.

I am simply saying this situation could have been avoided with more forethought. Which is true for a lot dangerous situations no matter what is between your legs.

Of course in a perfect world she should have been able to walk amongst an excited crowd without issue. However we live in far less than a perfect world. And that should be remembered by everyone that risks their own safety on a daily basis like reporters.
If Lara were a man and this had happened, I would feel the same way.


>> ^Gallowflak:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/Delirium" title="member since July 29th, 2009" class="profilelink">Delirium
"This appears to me like the typical reaction to a rape story. They are looking for what the woman victimized has done wrong. I believe that the wrong lies solely with the rapist, in all circumstances."
And I think that this is intolerably idealistic, and there's a cultural fanaticism about never questioning whether or not the rape could have been avoided should the victim have altered their behaviour (in a reasonable way).
Rape is possibly the vilest, most destructive common crime there is, and gang rape is a perfect example of the inalienable barbarism of the human species. Two people that I love have been raped. I know what it does, and I know what the victim has to carry with them through the rest of their life. But in all things, you're taking risks. Part of being intelligent is balancing the risk in whatever it is you're doing.
The wrong does always lie with the rapist or rapists, that's for certain. Questioning whether the circumstances that the woman was in were at all negligent isn't, in my mind, seeking to attribute any blame to the victim, although there are plenty of misogynists who would. But rape is too awful, and too horrific, to allow ourselves to wander around in some fantasy land where cause and effect doesn't operate. People are not to be trusted freely and easily.
These sorts of situations are dangerous for women precisely because of the inherent weakness and grotesquery of man, especially in a mob like this, where responsibility can be diffused so broadly. Add to it that it's an Islamic society, a religion with an associated culture that almost literally belongs in the 9th century.
We can't afford to not be practical.

Exactly, Gallowflak. Extremely well put.