I admire her restraint.

phake

REAL

I really don't see what's "awesome" about throwing a temper-tantrum and smashing a several-hundred dollar laptop...fake OR real.

This demonstrates poor parenting skills. A good parent could get the child to listen without demonstrating that violence is an acceptable form of conflict resolution.

....because kids are reasonable adults. Spare the rod; spoil the child.

I question the veracity.

maybe so, but, generally speaking, to write off violence as evil or that it will always have ill intent is naive.

It is arguable that, in this particular instance, that the choice of resolution was not the best choice. Truth be told, I probably wouldve done the same thing and slapped the taste out of his mouth for good measure. Different strokes for different folks.


>> ^detheter:
This demonstrates poor parenting skills. A good parent could get the child to listen without demonstrating that violence is an acceptable form of conflict resolution.


From the context it seems that you are suggesting that violence is NEVER an acceptable form of conflict resolution. I have a feeling you'd be hard pressed to push this argument were you to, God forbid, happen upon a man severely beating you or worse, a loved one. I most certainly do not wish these evils upon you just merely putting your ideology into perspective.

Simply put, there is a time and a place for violence (I hardly consider what she did to be an act of violence since the only injured party was the laptop but........whatever). Was this one of those times and places? Well that's debatable really. In any case the child suffered perhaps only a bruised ego; boohoo. He'll turn it off next time he's told to eh? =)

One last lil thing. I would like to identify all the "perfect" parents here in the sift. Anyone? Anyone with the how-to book on raising children the right and just way? Anyone at all?








PS - the "oh dear" comment in the last second really cracks me up. Pretty sure i've seen this vid somewhere before and the whole vid is the father (presumably) making a how-to vid or something like that when this happened.

You're comparing apples to oranges, my friend. I would not press that argument if someone was acting in violence towards someone I knew or didn't know, I would most certainly act, because that is a crime. It is certainly not within the context of what I meant by conflict. It is not in the context of war, rape, physical violence, or murder, but being a parent and a role model.

This is an internal family dispute, and smashing things could have certainly come second to taking it away permanently. I'm not saying that the message wasn't loud and clear to the kid, and he probably would listen. However, that's just my Canadian point of view. We have social programs for hair trigger reactions like this. Disobedience = HULK SMASH!

No no no. No body would do that to a presumably valuable and perfectly functioning device, this is an obvious fake. Even if the mother was upset by the child's continuing misbehavior and wanted to permanently remove it from their possession, the very likely response would be to sell it or give it to some other party.

This must've been a broken laptop that was out of warranty and only going to be thrown out anyway - so why not make a controversial web vid with it.

what i was saying wasnt comparing apples to oranges at all. What i was trying to convey was this:

if your worldview of violence is such that it is never (never being the key word) an acceptable form of conflict resolution then perhaps you live on another planet than us homosapiens. I WASNT saying that this women used it in an acceptable matter much like reacting violently to a violent person who means you or your loved ones harm is acceptable. I'm not defending her at all really.

I just took what you said....
>> ^detheter:
...A good parent could get the child to listen without demonstrating that violence is an acceptable form of conflict resolution.


and supposed that you were suggesting that all violence is wrong no matter what. However, your reply clarified that you are, in fact, unopposed to violence only when it is called for. So........we agree i guess


But I'm still right and you're a poopface =P

waste of money

Don't believe this is real at all.

i find it impossible to judge the merits of said mother's parenting skills without more context. maybe the kid had it coming, or maybe the mother was overreacting. while i am inclined to agree with the argument she was correct to assert her authority, it's hard to say without knowing what transpired in the moments leading up to this clip as well as the overall context of the mother-son relationship, no? ... i wonder why this was videotaped to begin with?

I saw a guy destroy his nice LCD monitor by punching it after someone killed him in Counter-Strike. Not everyone thinks clearly when they are upset.

In this video the mother's reaction seems out of line given this solitary situation, but there may be a lot of history involved in the relationship that would make the situation seem a little more reasonable. I probably would have just taken it away, but at the same time the destruction did send a pretty strong message of "I payed for this computer and you are not going to dictate how it is used."

It may be fake, but at the same time I have known people who really do act like that. My wife's ex-boyfriend, for instance, has destroyed three expensive cell phones by throwing them into walls because of dropped calls.

i wonder why this was videotaped to begin with?

Looks like a cell phone camera. If I saw an argument like that I'd probably record it too, especially if there was a history of conflict between the two.

Recording a person arguing can be very enlightening if you show it to them later. When they are cool-headed, they might say "I really behave that way?"

>> ^smooman:
maybe so, but, generally speaking, to write off violence as evil or that it will always have ill intent is naive.

I used to think that, too.

But violence begets violence.

If this was real, when the kid grows he'll probably react similarly with his kids.

(and we can presume that the mother was probably treated that way when she was a girl.)

I'm not claiming perfection here, and who the hell knows the whole story, but based on the clip and barring extenuating circumstances, she shouldn't have destroyed the computer.

>> ^boblobblaw:
i wonder why this was videotaped to begin with?


I swear i've seen the entire video before and from what i remember it was the father, presumably, making some sort of informational, home-made video about something I cant recall and this happened. The video ended with him pointing the camera back to himself and describing what has just happened (for blind people that watch online videos i guess) and that he'd better sort things out. In the context of the ENTIRE video it is quite hilarious


and detheter, you're still a poopface =P

yes...yes...he is a "poopface".

So are both of you!

Us foreign policy in action!

Tags for this video have been changed from 'kid, mom, fight, parenting, awesome' to 'kid, mom, fight, parenting, retarded' - edited by MINK

both acted like children.

how do you expect your kid to react if you are a fucking idiot yourself? i hope he ran into the house to smash her dildo.

>> ^detheter:
This demonstrates poor parenting skills. A good parent could get the child to listen without demonstrating that violence is an acceptable form of conflict resolution.


Wrong.

That child wasn't listening to anything, I can guarantee it.
He wasn't even saying "5 more minutes" as a reply to his mother, he was just spitting it out over, and over again.

Reminds me of me at that age, and quite frankly, I was a dick to my mom, pure and simple.

I know I shouldn't have been, and I've since made amends, but that kid wasn't listening to anything.

I'm not saying the mother was right however, I am saying that in this instance, she arguably wasn't wrong.

Honestly, when can angry women be expected to act reasonably?

Wtf? I know I submitted this, but I can't find it in any of my lists.... oh well.

>> ^detheter:
So are both of you!


whatever, poopface.

My mother once threw my little brothers N64 out the 2nd story window for the same reason. He was thoroughly addicted to it. He wasn't doing his homework, wasn't doing his chores, wasn't taking care of his puppy, wasn't otherwise respecting and listening to my parents.

So, she threw it out the window one day. And let me tell you, it worked. He came to understand she is the ultimate authority in the house, rational or not. It's not what I would have done, but she did it and it sent the right message.

*lies !

Invocations (lies) cannot be called by Seric because Seric is not privileged - sorry.

The people who have decided that violence, eg corporal punishment, with children is bad, are those who have given us those mouthy, dirtbag skaters we see ever so often on the sift. The ones who have had their social skills taught by the Internet and their music preferences. An absence of strong parenting is just a vacuum waiting to suck in whatever crap the random world has to offer. There is a fine line between strong parenting and abuse, but it is still a line.

ps. because she probably bought the notebook, and she'll probably be the one buying the replacement, she's a moron. Selling it on eBay for $1.20 would be more intelligent.

Similar to my wife.

Rather than rationally thinking a situation out, communicating, and looking for a means to resolve it.. she throws a tantrum and rants like a teenager, then sulks for a few days.

At least I get some peace and quiet for a time afterward.

There is just something wrong with people who feel justified in destroying property to make a point. It's up there with people who have to resort to violence.

Good parenting skill? Hardly!

More like teaching your douche kid how to be an even bigger douche.

horrible parenting. Anger didn't solve anything. You still end up with a defiant kid, a display for your lack of self-control, and now you have a broken laptop to boot. Worthless.

However, as a fellow human, I've reacted to situations in ways I wish I hadn't. I suppose you can't expect everybody to be able to keep their cool at all times.

These comments declaring me wrong, because the child was not obeying the mother, assume that there was no other course of action, and that the action chosen was the correct one. This is obviously false. I've shown this video to a bunch of people now, and ask "Is this right?" and all but one have said "No". Thanks for up voting my original comment. I probably wouldn't care so much but i have been quoted ten thousand times, and called racist names.

I think my opinion was summed up by rougy

"But violence begets violence.

If this was real, when the kid grows he'll probably react similarly with his kids."

Us foreign policy in action!

Did the mother wait 12 years while offering the kid "sanctions" he then used as toilet paper?

Also: fake.

>> ^detheter:
These comments declaring me wrong, because the child was not obeying the mother, assume that there was no other course of action, and that the action chosen was the correct one. This is obviously false. I've shown this video to a bunch of people now, and ask "Is this right?" and all but one have said "No". Thanks for up voting my original comment. I probably wouldn't care so much but i have been quoted ten thousand times, and called racist names.
I think my opinion was summed up by rougy
"But violence begets violence.
If this was real, when the kid grows he'll probably react similarly with his kids."

You're not really a poopface.

Oh my god, how can anyone think this is real? downvote for obviously fake video

If this were real the last time the door shut it would have shook the walls of the house. EVERYONE slams doors when they are mad.

She was immediately sorry that she did that..

I'm sure of it.

I mean, who's gonna buy the kid a new one?