*blocked

Invocations (blocked) cannot be called by ledpup because ledpup is not privileged - sorry.

Mexican presidents for the fucking win!

The wall will go up.
Considering the last 7 years we blew 10 Trillion and got nothing to show for it I say build the wall.

Wait, so you're saying a bad investment in the past justifies a bad investment in the future?

Maybe it's better to face the realization that you can't control a 3000+ km border and mass Stasi-like raids to root out all existing illegal immigrants (which let's face is what would be required for any total solution) is neither practical nor American? Instead maybe all that wasted money you recognize could be spent on policing to prevent the associated crime?

I mean you've gone so far as to acknowledge money has been wasted so far. Is it really a far cry to realize that this wall idea would fail momentously too? That maybe just because it's illegal doesn't mean it's practical to enforce and that laws should change to manage an unavoidable reality?

Particularly since it should be obvious any company that loses access to immigrant labor can just shift their factories a few km over the border with relative ease, meaning the only jobs created from this wall will be those created in a temporary and ultimately redundant government construction project.

You're half the way there on your logic, just make the final leap already.

Nothing except jobs and lives. An economy on the upswing. A little bit better healthcare (though still very bad except for the rich.) Yep, nothing to show for it.

US$1.3 trillion for the development and testing of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, 115 million (est) per plane when they get around to figuring out how to stop structural cracking and a way to actually get it to pass a real operational trial.

Not saying I agree that a wall is needed or would even work, but let's be realistic in saying we are more than willing to throw a fuckton of money towards projects of equally dubious natures.

This is blocked, someone already said it, has it been marked as such yet? I don't see anything about it.

Yep great healthcare, My sister went from 500/month to 1500/ month. She ended up on Medicaid. So much for looking out for those with preconditions.

My brothers went from 300 to 520 month. I work for a company which got a set aside from the mandate so I am untouched but my out of pocket went from 1200 to 5800.

Employment at 5% but when counting everyone who stopped looking then we are at 11%

Fucking great improvements.