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The kid that called Cliff out on how he uses science to make a philosophical argument.nailed it. Cliff dances between philosophy and science at whim. someone nails him down on science, he just shifts and says oh hey, this isn't science, this is a philosophical debate. It's a dodge.

Cliff still doesn't seem to get the difference between trust and faith, even when asking about faith, he used the word trust repeatedly, implying that he seems to believe they're the same thing. which isn't true.

Gotta love how he crouches down and "lowers himself" whenever he answers a question. Because Cliff is so above it all right? Gotta love how he talks in such a condescending tone as if we're all idiots and he's the only one that gets it. Which leads right back into Matt's argument, Yes, you believe, but that's no justification for why anyone else should.

Cliff made all the standard strawman mistakes. Atheists claim God doesn't exist....bzzt. Atheists believe that religious people haven't met the burden of proof. big diff.

Cliff's obsession with literary style is bizarre. I could write a scientific book in iambic pentameter and it has no bearing on the (non)validity of the scientific content. Lots of science fiction franchises write fictional books as if they are scientific manuals. The method of communication is irrelevant to the truth of the content.