oh that's right... in the US even the judicial system is privatized. DISGUSTING.

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yah, the more potheads they lock up, the more money the private corporate prison makes.

Man, I'm seeing more and more videos of realities that would fit perfectly in 80s distopian future movies.

>> ^kymbos:

Man, I'm seeing more and more videos of realities that would fit perfectly in 80s distopian future movies.


Yup, pretty soon you will have Running man contests...

>> ^LarsaruS:

>> ^kymbos:
Man, I'm seeing more and more videos of realities that would fit perfectly in 80s distopian future movies.

Yup, pretty soon you will have Running man contests...

Don't forget the Hunger Games.

Just another example of how fucked the right-wing agenda is with wanting "small-government, more free-enterprise". Corporations are the most fucked up entities and they want to embrace more of it in privatizing everything under the sun probably including patenting your reproductive rights at birth for an extremist christian agenda.

'We're very disappointed that you'd share the fucked up shit that happens behind closed doors at our correctional facilities'

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My kid just finished these books and loved them. A movie is coming soon evidently.>> ^shuac:

>> ^LarsaruS:
>> ^kymbos:
Man, I'm seeing more and more videos of realities that would fit perfectly in 80s distopian future movies.

Yup, pretty soon you will have Running man contests...

Don't forget the Hunger Games.

>> ^dag:

My kid just finished these books and loved them. A movie is coming soon evidently.>> ^shuac:
>> ^LarsaruS:
>> ^kymbos:
Man, I'm seeing more and more videos of realities that would fit perfectly in 80s distopian future movies.

Yup, pretty soon you will have Running man contests...

Don't forget the Hunger Games.



Correct-a-mundo!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1392170/

The whole model of a privately run prison (i.e. prison for profit) is fundamentally flawed. The prison is paid for having inmates, therefore they have a strong profit motive to insure the inmate re-offends.

Robocop is only a few years away, surely.

Chaos, not so much. Gladiator fights doesn't seem like the type of thing that would make a robber re-offend. infact stuff like this could be considered a good deterrent. I don't find it unusual for private jail facilities. The government is always known for its inability to streamline cost, so there is money to be made by doing just that. Unfortunately much like red light cameras, once something is moved out of official hands, they no longer want anything to do with it, no official supervision. Eventually corruption weaves its way in with the lure of money and this happens.

Just like red light cameras, I am fine with privatization of correctional facilities, but I am severely dissapointed in the lack of oversight, because even those with the best of intentions eventually do something wrong if not supervised and this is one of the areas where you cant fck up...even just once.

>> ^jmd:

Chaos, not so much. Gladiator fights doesn't seem like the type of thing that would make a robber re-offend. infact stuff like this could be considered a good deterrent. I don't find it unusual for private jail facilities. The government is always known for its inability to streamline cost, so there is money to be made by doing just that. Unfortunately much like red light cameras, once something is moved out of official hands, they no longer want anything to do with it, no official supervision. Eventually corruption weaves its way in with the lure of money and this happens.
Just like red light cameras, I am fine with privatization of correctional facilities, but I am severely dissapointed in the lack of oversight, because even those with the best of intentions eventually do something wrong if not supervised and this is one of the areas where you cant fck up...even just once.


wait...what?
you are fine with correctional institutions being privatized?
and your main point is streamlining cash?
did i read your comment correctly?

have you even considered the implications of a powerful lobby driven by this privatized institution you have no problem with?
considered how they may use these lobbyists to influence lawmakers?
because an empty cell=NO MONEY!
so it would be in their best interest to lobby for stricter and harsher sentences that include mandatory jail time.
oh wait....
thats riiiight.they already did that didnt they?
or have you never heard of the "3 strikes" rule?
now go look up who pushed for that to be implemented...
notice anything? think thats a coincidence?

america has more people in prison RIGHT NOW than any other country combined.mostly non-violent.
but its so heart-warming to know that you consider a good ass kicking a good "deterrent" for re-offending.
i KNOW!
lets televise these brutal beatings so you can bet actual cash and watch from the comfort of your sofa!

christ on a stick.please tell me your comment was sarcasm.

I worked as a prison guard for about 6 months and don't let anyone fool you.

once you enter prison you are no longer part of the judicial system

prison guards and correctional officers are not cops, are not parts of the judicial system at all they are all private corporations.

The prison I worked at was in southern Georgia, and here's a little known secret for most. Big corporations like the Pepsico, Coke, Proctor & Gamble and many others own prisons. The one I worked with a subsidiary of Pepsico paid my check.

The reason they get into prisons is it's "insurance" and "free money" The government gives money for each inmate for care and housing/health. The more you can crowd into your prison the more money the government will pay.

So big corporations who primarily do other things, will also own prisons around the country as insurance cause it's guaranteed money, so during economic recessions and when your sales are down you know you are guaranteed xxx amount of money due to the prison income. Now add onto that fact making prisoners work for you making products like license plates for the states and other such products you get even more income from states by using your slave labor force for them.

There is an old documentary on the prison system and who really runs it, in the documentary corporations from Microsoft and Apple to Proctor & Gamble all had stake in private prisons around the country. It's free tax free money.

I know for fact that part of the documentary was true as my check was from pepsico for working for a prison. That was until I finished college and moved to Orlando to work for an ISP.

How is this surprising? This kind of crap goes on in county jails, not just prisons. In fact, it's part of the inmate political system to put someone against a wall and unleash a barrage of attacks if there is a dispute -- especially if a member of one racial group did something negative against another racial group. The guards see it and don't interfere because they work around the system set up by the inmates. Shit, the inmates broadcast the news in English and Spanish every night after lights out. To think for even a moment that the guards aren't aware is foolish.

How do I know this? Marijuana prohibition allowed me the pleasure of being placed, sorry "housed", in a corrections facility for a couple days. At the time I did not have the money to afford anything other than a public attorney (who basically act as handjob machines for the police), therefore I went to jail. It should have just been a fine but they wanted to prove a point. What that point was, I don't know, but it really helped me learn to hate those greedy fucks.

Now think of all the lower income fools that get robbed blind by that system and expected to go back to society with no money, maybe a few extra scars, and with anger in their hearts. Who did they go to for moral support while in jail? Other criminals. It's not just a terribly flawed system. It's a carefully crafted machine that creates a revolving door policy; rather than help these mostly undereducated fools, we steal their money, release them, then pick them back up when they commit another petty crime and start all over again.

>> ^jmd:

Chaos, not so much. Gladiator fights doesn't seem like the type of thing that would make a robber re-offend. infact stuff like this could be considered a good deterrent. I don't find it unusual for private jail facilities. The government is always known for its inability to streamline cost, so there is money to be made by doing just that. Unfortunately much like red light cameras, once something is moved out of official hands, they no longer want anything to do with it, no official supervision. Eventually corruption weaves its way in with the lure of money and this happens.
Just like red light cameras, I am fine with privatization of correctional facilities, but I am severely dissapointed in the lack of oversight, because even those with the best of intentions eventually do something wrong if not supervised and this is one of the areas where you cant fck up...even just once.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eNrgpVp70U&NR=1

Your right it is far from perfect, that is the underlying problem. I am fine with someone taking over the job if they can do it cheaper and better then the gov, but without proper oversight it just becomes messed up like we see above.

>> ^enoch:


wait...what?
you are fine with correctional institutions being privatized?

Capitalism is a good thing.

Capitalism with out morality is what we currently have in this country.

I've seem some "fake" tv shows that talk about privatized prisons....and what's really strange is what they mention in the shows actually shows up in the news at some point.

One thing I haven't seen in the news specifically, but is somewhat mentioned in this video. Is them releasing prisoners when they have something medically wrong to where it would cost the prison money to keep them. So they release potentially really violent offenders due to them having long term treatable diseases that are expensive.... like kidney failure, etc.

Which is why these places shouldn't be run for profit. Either way we still end up paying to keep prisoners locked up, but we put the decision of release in the hands of people who only care if they earn off the prisoner. Not if the guy is gonna get released and murder a few more people before his illness or the cops get him.

And they want to privatize schools to reduce costs (which even if they did, I severely doubt it would actually reduce cost). And I am sure their incentive with either be testing scores or population numbers, either way the kids won't actually learn...they will be trained to pass a test or be kept as long as possible in the school system.

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