I HATE PENNIES!!!! (Also Nickels.)

So I've been in the Americat for a little over two weeks, it took me a little over 15 minutes to realize I hate pennies about as much as this man. I have however found a use for them now; I can throw them at people who displease me. Apparently this handy function has completely eluded most of the natives.
dystopianfuturetodaysays...

You know you are spoiled when this is at the top of your list of concerns. As a fellow spoiled American, I completely agree. While we are on the subject of pocket change woes, I'd also love to see taxes and surcharges included on the price tag - so much time is wasted while cashiers and customers count out change. Instead of charging me 2.98 or 3.01, just make it an even $3 and be done with it.

dgandhisays...

>> ^Tymbrwulf:

For those of you that hate pennies/nickels. I will GLADLY take them all off your hands! Please let me know if you would like to join me on this little endeavor.


You can dig them out of my trash bin.

When my GF saw me throwing pennies in the trash, she asked me to put them in a jar for her, so I did. When she decided to use them, she wasted 5 minutes, and a cashiers patience, in an attempt to utilize this otherwise "wasted" money. She then came back and acknowledged the basic truth, that unless you make migrant-farm-hand wages, pennies are not worth your time. She no longer complains when I throw them in the trash.

Tymbrwulfsays...

>> ^dgandhi:


When my GF saw me throwing pennies in the trash, she asked me to put them in a jar for her, so I did. When she decided to use them, she wasted 5 minutes, and a cashiers patience, in an attempt to utilize this otherwise "wasted" money. She then came back and acknowledged the basic truth, that unless you make migrant-farm-hand wages, pennies are not worth your time. She no longer complains when I throw them in the trash.


My 8th grade history teacher told us that he picked up every piece of loose change that he would find on the ground and pocket it. He would then empty out his loose change into a jar at the end of each day. Once a year, he would go into the bank with his jar of loose change, and exchange it for hard currency. He was able to supplement his income by over $1000 a year. All from loose change he found lying around. This was in 1998.

solecistsays...

>> ^Tymbrwulf:

>> ^dgandhi:

When my GF saw me throwing pennies in the trash, she asked me to put them in a jar for her, so I did. When she decided to use them, she wasted 5 minutes, and a cashiers patience, in an attempt to utilize this otherwise "wasted" money. She then came back and acknowledged the basic truth, that unless you make migrant-farm-hand wages, pennies are not worth your time. She no longer complains when I throw them in the trash.

My 8th grade history teacher told us that he picked up every piece of loose change that he would find on the ground and pocket it. He would then empty out his loose change into a jar at the end of each day. Once a year, he would go into the bank with his jar of loose change, and exchange it for hard currency. He was able to supplement his income by over $1000 a year. All from loose change he found lying around. This was in 1998.


i have a co-worker who does this; and we work at a courthouse, so there are ample opportunities to find loose change...he makes about 100 dollars every time he turns it in...about once a year. i am afraid that i must call bullshit on your story.

Stingraysays...

I never carry spare change with me. I just have some bills on me if I need to buy something with cash. If I have any spare change at the end of the day, it goes into a coin jar I keep in the bedroom.

When I have this thing filled up, I go to http://coinstar.com and I redeem my spare change for Amazon gift cards so I don't have to be charged the 9 cent per dollar fee.

mgittlesays...

Yeah...I don't save pennies specifically, I just save all change. My bank charges nothing to use the coinstar thing. So, while I acknowledge that pennies are bullshit, I still come up with like $300 in change 2-3 times a year. Yeah, only like $10 of it is from pennies each time, but it doesn't really take me any longer to save them when I'm already saving the other coins. It would take me longer to sort out the pennies than it does to stand there and dump them into the thing.

Productivity wise, on a national level, they're retarded.

Also, some video on here a while ago talked about how Bill Gates made so much money per hour as head of Microsoft that it wouldn't be worth his time to stop and pick up a $100 bill on the ground on the way to work. Without even doing napkin math, I bet pennies are like that for everyone who has a job.

Tymbrwulfsays...

@solecist you completely missed the point of my post. YMMV when it comes to saving change. I was just saying that it's worth saving money in a jar instead of throwing them out into the trash (which, btw, is illegal, but not enforced). Obviously all examples in this thread will be completely anecdotal, but it doesn't take away from the fact that my teacher did this and saved $1000 a year, while your friend only got $100, while @mgittle saved ~$300 2-3 times a year.

I agree with the man in the video by saying pennies and nickels are useless(therefor my upvote of the video), but I disagree with the poster who said it's better to just throw them away, citing my example as a reason why you shouldn't.

Crunchysays...

In most countries that use EURO the lowest value of a coin is 0.05€ and so if your bill comes out to 4.02 or 3.97 its rounded to 4 if you pay with cash, so when i go to the gas station i deliberatly pump for 4.02 which saves me 2c every time.. think! in 30 years i might save a few euros!.. excluding the times i accidently pump too much and i have to pay for a up rounded sum.

spoco2says...

This, and America's retarded insistence on having ALL their damn paper money LOOK THE SAME makes spending any time over there a pain in the arse.

Australia got rid of 1 and 2 cent coins quite some time ago, and turned our 1 and 2 dollar notes into 'gold' coins... And all our paper money is
a) Not paper, it's plastic, complete with clear windows &
b) All different sizes and colours.

How blind people function with money in the states boggles (ie. like in Ray when he has to be paid in a given denomination because otherwise he can't tell how much money he has by touch).

People who demand that pennies remain are deluded.

ForgedRealitysays...

>> ^spoco2:

This, and America's retarded insistence on having ALL their damn paper money LOOK THE SAME makes spending any time over there a pain in the arse.
Australia got rid of 1 and 2 cent coins quite some time ago, and turned our 1 and 2 dollar notes into 'gold' coins... And all our paper money is
a) Not paper, it's plastic, complete with clear windows &
b) All different sizes and colours.
How blind people function with money in the states boggles (ie. like in Ray when he has to be paid in a given denomination because otherwise he can't tell how much money he has by touch).
People who demand that pennies remain are deluded.


Oh, I know how cool it is these days to hate on America, but don't be a typical lazy Euro. Please, just look at the bills before handing them over. It isn't hard.

Also, plastic money is TERRIBLE for the environment. I'm so glad all that shit that pollutes the planet doesn't break down ever. I'm also glad that having five of them in my wallet makes it impossible to close! Feels so comfortable in my pocket. What a wonderful thing to only be able to carry one or two at a time. At least it means criminals are less likely to get away with very much when they rob me...

spoco2says...

@ForgedReality
a) I was just saying how hard it is for BLIND people to tell apart your notes and you tell me to look at them... *sigh* Also, if I have a wallet with a number of denominations in it, here in Aus I can pull out the one I want just from seeing the edge of the notes in my wallet as I can tell by the colour... you have to fan them out and flick through them looking for the number.
b) The point of Polypropylene notes is that they last longer, much, much longer than 'paper' notes, and so don't need to be discarded nearly as much, so create less waste, and even if they do, they can be recycled. Also, they are far less prone to be counterfeit.

So... yeah, um, perhaps this nostalgic inability to handle change that American has ('NO, don't take our Pennies', 'NO don't take our imperial measurement', 'NO, don't take our paper, all the same money') really needs to be looked at.

ForgedRealitysays...

>> ^spoco2:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/ForgedReality" title="member since March 13th, 2009" class="profilelink">ForgedReality
a) I was just saying how hard it is for BLIND people to tell apart your notes and you tell me to look at them... sigh Also, if I have a wallet with a number of denominations in it, here in Aus I can pull out the one I want just from seeing the edge of the notes in my wallet as I can tell by the colour... you have to fan them out and flick through them looking for the number.
b) The point of Polypropylene notes is that they last longer, much, much longer than 'paper' notes, and so don't need to be discarded nearly as much, so create less waste, and even if they do, they can be recycled. Also, they are far less prone to be counterfeit.
So... yeah, um, perhaps this nostalgic inability to handle change that American has ('NO, don't take our Pennies', 'NO don't take our imperial measurement', 'NO, don't take our paper, all the same money') really needs to be looked at.


Okay. Fair enough. All good points, sir. I didn't mean to make it sound like I disagree with you, but sometimes one solution isn't always the best solution. Your argument makes it more appealing.

However, we are fast approaching an economy which has no need for physical money at all. What if the whole concept of physical money that people can hold in their hands is already outmoded, and the only reason any of it still exists is for reasons of nostalgia?

edit - omg I hate what vs has done with the quote system. It's broken half the time, but this time I didn't even touch any of the tags or anything. *sigh* I'm not going to bother fixing it.

Porksandwichsays...

US bills have textures to them. They may or may not wear off after use, I really haven't paid attention. But the bills have textures related to the graphics on them, and there might even be something specific for the blind on them where sighted people wouldn't even notice. Not saying they are the end all be all of money, but Im thinking this is not as much of an issue for the blind as you would think. However if you said changing the graphics on the bills every few years is problematic I'd agree...you start to wonder if someone decided to take a stab at making their own bills when you see a new one because it looks like someone took a crayon to it.

yellowcsays...

Man I am in no way afraid of technology or anything but there's no way in hell you'd convince me to drop physical currency, so I'm going to be the old dude in 30yrs that stops those "damn kids" from trying to pull that shit.

My primary reason is it is bullshit easy to just swipe your wallet or phone over some little sensor and make a purchase, we'd all go deathly poor from micro-spending. Physical currency keeps you in check and gives weight to a purchase, when I hand over a lobster ($20 in Australia), a part of me is like "ohhh man, that's rough, lobsters ain't cheap". When I swipe my card for like $17.54, I'm like "yeah whatever, CREDIT BITCH!".

ForgedReality:
"Okay. Fair enough. All good points, sir. I didn't mean to make it sound like I disagree with you, but sometimes one solution isn't always the best solution. Your argument makes it more appealing.
However, we are fast approaching an economy which has no need for physical money at all. What if the whole concept of physical money that people can hold in their hands is already outmoded, and the only reason any of it still exists is for reasons of nostalgia?
edit - omg I hate what vs has done with the quote system. It's broken half the time, but this time I didn't even touch any of the tags or anything. sigh I'm not going to bother fixing it.
"

arghnesssays...

The USD notes don't quite look so similar now, with different colours used on most (all?) of them.

I still get confused with nickles/dimes with the dime being smaller and the same colour, but being worth more than a nickel. Oh, and a dime doesn't say how much it's really worth on it in dollars or cents. At least they put the numeric value on their notes

>> ^spoco2:

This, and America's retarded insistence on having ALL their damn paper money LOOK THE SAME makes spending any time over there a pain in the arse.

zorsays...

Many years ago I spent a lot of time at that penny factory in TN. They really appreciate it in a area where unemployment is around 20%. It's unionized, too. It's not going anywhere because it produces, if nothing else, $1 million or more per month in pure cash profit for their corporate overlords in NY who spend only $180k every once in a while on lobbyists to protect the franchise. That's the best bang for your buck you can get in DC! They make Canadian money, too, and tokens, but nothing tops the penny for pure crazy profit.

criticalthudsays...

A lack of a physical currency would make everything you do trackable by USA INC. Everything you buy, sell...where you do it, and at what time. Nothing would be anonymous again. The future of complete economic slavery...and just like your web surfing history, a wonderful method for targeted advertising. Privacy would become a thing of the past, surrendered for convenience.
Indeed, it would be much harder to hide income from the IRS, essentially meaning that the tax burden could then be completely shifted to the poor and lower middle class, who often scrape by on the little pieces of change they make on the side (income taxes, since their inception, have gradually shifted from the corporate rich to the poor and middle class...a fairly obvious commentary on how the rich create policy). Non-physical currency is the wet dream of our plutocracy.

chilaxesays...

I haven't paid for anything with cash in years.

The bonus rewards from credit cards add up. NY Times says:

If your bank turns you down, start shopping. Sites like CreditCards.com, CardHub.com and CardRatings.com can give you a sense of your options.

But don’t stop there, because the sites may not list all of the best deals. Credit unions often offer lower interest rates; find one that will accept you at Creditunion.coop.

More tips here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/22/your-money/credit-and-debit-cards/22money.html?_r=1&em

Just don't buy more than you can afford.

pmkierstsays...

This guy's voice, cadence and video editing really strongly reminds me of a guy who did a vlog some years ago, an early adopter, who did a limited time experiment (exactly one year I think). Damn, I wish I could remember his name!

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