As an owner of each console but a loyalist to Xbox...I've gotta hand it to Sony. We got owned this year. Looks like Microsoft is pulling a PS3.

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it is sad it has come to this, that we celebrate a feature that has existed for decades. still a massive sigh of relief, and a hilarious video. the first thing I thought when the E3 attendance started screaming in applause at the announcement of no drm and used games sales still exist etc, I felt sad and happy at the same time. Sad it has come to this, happy Sony and Nintendo didn't follow.

Fuck you Microsoft.

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Presumably Microsoft made their decision as a result from pressure from publishers. I'm sure in time those same publishers will scratch Microsoft's back in return. If XboxOne nets a decent catalogue of exclusive titles then I'd wager that most will simply forget this.

Since I mostly purchase games through steam I did away with used games yonks ago, and I don't miss it. In Steams case I think the benefits outweigh or at least equal the cons of not being able to sell my games on. If Microsoft manage it too then most people won't miss used games either.

We'll see anyway.

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Wait wait wait, you were supposed to say thanks?

Funny? *comedy !

Let's hope Sony doesn't change its mind like they did with Linux on their PS3s!

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Yeah, but on Steam, you'll keep your games library going foward to a new PC or a new OS. Maybe the next Xbox (Xbox "Two" or whatever) will be backward compatible but I won't take that chance, based on their track record about BC...

It's just a bad deal. Too much control.

Although, they (MS) showed great games! Too bad.

For me, this generation will be PC-Steam first, then PS4 and maybe I'll buy a Xbox One if they change their policy.

The most accurate part of this video? The fact that the other dude is never seen giving the game back.

I don't play video games, but for some reason i find this kinda interesting. So, for the xbox is it that your friend is not able to play your copy of any xbox game if you lend it to him? Also do you have to be online with your xbox to get a game to play, and does that mean you have to pay an additional monthly fee to be online with your xbox?

The current XBox allows you to borrow, rent games. You can buy and sell used games without any issues as well. The upcoming XBox One however allows a title to be resold only once through a very specific process that they haven't revealed yet. You can't borrow a friends copy of a game, and I'd presume you can't take your game to their house to play there unless the game is tied to your account not just your XBox One... Either way...

As Jinx noted, this was likely done to appease the publishers. They've been wanting to get rid of the used game industry for some time (an industry I don't get anyhow, you'll give me less than half the used price of a game, then sell it for $5 less than a new copy... why buy used if it is only $5 less?).

The question becomes, as noted before, if the publishers make it worth Microsoft's time and losses due to that policy then it will work out, but if they support Sony just as well, or even after a short delay, then Microsoft gambled wrong. They are going to lose sales over the policy. That, the fact the system needs to connect every 24 hours or it will lock down even single player use until it connects again...

To play games online with XBox Live you need a paid Gold account. You can play games on the PS3 without a PS Plus account, but there are rumors that the PS4 will require a paid PS Plus account to play multiplayer. That will just be leveling the playing field, and if you still don't need a paid account to access Netflix (you need a paid Gold account on XBox to get Netflix or Amazon videos... and I think to access your YouTube account fully) on the PS4 then they'll still have an edge on the multimedia front.

Another of Sony's big upsets was pricing the PS4 $100 under the XBox One price... now I'm going to hazard a guess they had a couple prices ready to roll based on the XBox's price and decided to undercut, it could have been the planed price from the start, but I'd guess they wanted to scare Microsoft. I'm also guessing Microsoft will announce "new cost saving measures" right before the holidays and adjust theirs down, they are already behind the 8 ball with the used and borrowing game limits, I can't see them letting Sony getting a huge boost from price as well... if they reverse course on borrowing/used games they might be able to keep the price up "we've heard the complaints from our users and have decided not to implement that feature at this time" sort of thing, but I'm guessing they are too far into that to reverse that and will just price match.

EDIT: I should note that I'm mostly a PC Gamer, followed by XBox games then PS3... well iOS games are probably after PC Games but before console games... I like XBox better as a gaming platform, but my PS3 has better networking for Netflix and Blu-ray support (XBox One gains Blu-ray support) so it is my multimedia machine of choice. I don't think I'll upgrade either system at this time though...

The X1 allows you to transfer the license once (borrow or sell the title) to a friend that's on your friends list for 30 days.

Select partners (Gamestop obviously) will be able to resell used games, I'm sure they have some huge massive contract with MS for this.

The big kicker is the online requirement, the system will check authentication once every 24 hours or once per hour if you're on your account but not on your machine. If you fail the check (internet goes down etc) you're unable to play any games, although the Bluray and media center functions remain unchanged.

Overall Microsofts policy and lackluster handling of the situation and info has been terrible overall. For the first time in years (since ps1 gen 1) I'll be getting a Sony system to pair up with my PC for games/entertainment.

For noting, Sony not building in some cynical method of locking a game to one player will not stop software publishers from doing just that.

Give them all credit for not enforcing it like Microshite but don't think that a lot publishers won't try and make everything one purchase/no resale/no lending.

Anyone here suspect, as I do, that Sony is merely saying they aren't requiring DRM? They will probably support any and all DRM systems the publishers come up with...

Not sure its any different from MS at the end of the day.

EA recently put an end to their "Online Pass" scheme, even removing the requirement from all existing games. And they're the only console publisher I know of that was trying to implement a game reselling fee on disk-based games. It's striking that Microsoft is moving in a direction that proved too dickish even for EA.

I can't find the article offhand but it was from reddit was Jack Tretton flat out said they are rejecting any sort of DRM that prevents people from reselling the disc.

He went on to say they cannot control everything a publisher does like charging to play multiplayer ala onepass etc) but this is really a key point for publishers to not be able to tell you that you can't sell the game to a friend.

I'm not saying you are 100% wrong and it will never happen but Sony is pushing pretty hard in the Anti-DRM direction. I think they realize it's one of the things that set them apart from Xbox.

> Sad it has come to this, happy Sony and Nintendo didn't follow.

Is it Sony and Nintendo? Or "The Non American Companies"? Is the unabated overempowering of USA corporate greed ?

I was certain the Xbone was going to be backwards compatible. I thought that question was settled last generation. People want backward compatibility.

So fuck them. I was loving the 360, but now I'm back to being PC-centric.

This idea of having to collect all the consoles so you can play the games you want to play is ridiculously stupid. And they wonder why people develop emulators so they can play everything on the PC

that paints such a perfect picture, doesn't it?