My mom always said that when you saw a crying baby on t.v. chances were that child was really crying because as demon_ix mentioned, babies don't know how to act...:( Sad, I like this song too..but being a mom I had a hard time watching this.

that kid will be scarred for life

I'm sure the kid was genuinely scared. Small children doing actual work, such as acting or modeling is probably not a good idea in general. I don't think he'll be permanently scarred or that being exposed to the monsters in this video was any worse than taking a kid to a Halloween party or science fiction convention. As long as a kid doesn't experience anything truly terrible or abusive, I don't think it will have any long term effect.

I think that this is an awesome video and an awesome song. What better way to get somebody to "act" than to actually have them feel that emotion. The kid will grow up and get over it...and if not, I don't give a shit, it entertained me.

Also, what's with the monster fighting and abyss gazing quote being attributed to Mark Twain? I could have sworn that was Neitzsche.

What do you mean? Monsters ARE real. Because magical monstrosities with horns live under the ground and are minions of the big-boss bad guy Satan himself. That is right. Evil dudes live below your feet. It is real.

No.. I haven't seen them. Just someone told me about it because some multi-thousand year old sourced remastered (hundreds of times by the way) book says they are real. But they said they were real, so they are.

Just don't ask me about the bits about killing non-believers being ok, stoning your children, and the like. I just don't pay attention to those parts.

>> ^Samaelsmith:
Also, what's with the monster fighting and abyss gazing quote being attributed to Mark Twain? I could have sworn that was Neitzsche.


I completely missed that quote, but yeah, it is a Nietzsche quote... Wtf...

The lead singer made me cry.

That kid's gonna need some extensive therapy..

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Being a parent really changes your perspective on things. BP (before parenthood) I would probably really have liked this. AP, I find this hard to watch. The kid's really crying and possibly very scared - it's exploitative of the kid at least. *controversy

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Yeah that's a Nietzsche quote. I'm thinking the video is about how differently little kids see the world - to them the world is completely bizarre and foreign. They don't understand the reasons behind anything. So what to us looks like a normal kids show, to them looks like an acid trip. Everything is a source of fear except the mother - the one source of security in the kid's world. But the mother doesn't really understand this - she's so used to the world that she forgot what it looked like when she was a little kid herself.

Don't worry - that's not actually a toddler. It is Michael J. Fox...

Also, I agree - seeing the band dressed like that IS going to scar him for life...

erm, I think the last minute or so of the video is missing

hey, if the baby from labyrinth didnt mind the goblins or david bowie's hair... maybe this kid just had to take a shiz and that's why he cries

nice song but *dark

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im not a mom yet but i disaprove. most adul problems are root back to experiances from childhood, even ones you dont remember. you brain is growing anf forming and anything can have a lasting impact. even if some disgree of the damaging effects its cruel nonetheless.

Poor kid. That sucks.

>> ^yourhydra:
im not a mom yet but i disaprove. most adul problems are root back to experiances from childhood, even ones you dont remember. you brain is growing anf forming and anything can have a lasting impact. even if some disgree of the damaging effects its cruel nonetheless.


It depends on the kid. I've spent my entire life having nightmares. As in several a night, at least 4 times a week, since I was at least 3 years old(yes I remember back that far). I grew up, got used to them, and am going to use them in my career choice of becoming a director. I'm a bit weird, but I'm much more psychologically "ok" than anyone I know.

This was maybe 6 hours of weird creepy things around this baby. He'd have forgotten this in a few days and will be as normal as everyone else.

Who gives a fuck. Kids cry about anything unfamiliar. I cried my eyes out when I saw a cat. I didn't grow up to have a phobia of them, just an allergy.

Great video, nice tune, the kid will have a cool story to tell people when he is older.

Wait... seeing those creatures since childhood isn't normal?

This is a good example where they should have use animation instead of live action...

Kid wouldn't remember any of this if in between he felt safe and cared for. This wouldn't have been going on for minutes or hours on end, it would have been snippets. No way would child services let this happen - you think they wouldn't have to adhere to strict guidelines? It's out there for all to see isn't it.

If you ask me, which you're not, but i'll tell ya - they have the kid in a room, waiting for him to get bored, tired or hungry and start to kick off like all kids do at that point. And they've superimposed this afterwards.

All of that aside, this is a brilliant depiction of the way some people just drag up their kids, taking them along for the ride rather than properly nurturing them. Very big upvote

upvote for joanna newsom cameo alone. no one caught this yet?

yeah, way to quote *fail:

He who fights too long against dragons becomes a dragon himself; and if you gaze too long into the abyss, the abyss will gaze into you.
-Friedrich Nietzsche

I wonder what child protective services would think of this video...

Not cool ;( oh and btw rottenseed is a lier he cares

Shit sandwich.

Fail.

The misquote at the start completely ruined this for me. I know, I'm strange, but using one of Nietzsche's best quotes and awarding to Mark Twain kind made me throw up a little in my mouth.

The kid won't remember this in a week, let alone be scarred for life.

>> ^FlowersInHisHair:
The kid won't remember this in a week, let alone be scarred for life.

I finished my first round of psychology about two weeks ago. I'd say they'll remember it, and it'll leave an impression on them. That's how phobias are developed, it doesn't matter what age it is.

For myself, I can not eat peanuts, or any type of nut without a gag reflex kicking in. I have no problems eating peanut butter(or any type of thing like it), in fact I love it. I can't remember the event that triggered it. I was 3 or 4, and choked on a peanut that's all it took. I've been trying for the better part of 4 years to break through that barrier with limited amounts of success.

really? 31 comments and I'm the one who has to say it?

*milf

The kid will be fine. You guys are seriously underestimating the hardiness of the homo sapien species. We are designed for hand to hand combat with wild animals, sleeping on bare ground in cold rain, going weeks without food, surviving extreme heat and cold; and you are worried about a 5 minute video shoot with scary costumes?

I couldn't watch past the 1:32 mark, (ok, I have now skipped through it to see what other horrors they subject him to) that's friggen terrifying for a kid. Poor thing.

Imstellar's back again with his complete lack of depth of knowledge or empathy once again.

This kid would have been seriously, seriously scared. He may not have lasting issues from this, but he will probably have nightmares for at least a few nights and also may find that when he is older he has some illogical fear of some things and can't place what causes these fears.

Until someone shows him this video he was in.

To rant on about what we are 'designed' for is completely missing the point about how impressionable babies and young kids are. You put a baby on the bare ground in the cold rain and see how long it lasts.

Pretty much every post I've seen you make comes from some ideological standpoint with ZERO thought about... oh... real life. Really, every, single thing is a simple adherence to something without really thinking through how things actually operate in the real world. It's as if you have a very small amount of real world experience and have read a bit on some subjects and now think you are the keeper of absolute truth.

You come back to this post when you actually have a child and I bet your feelings won't be the same any more.

>> ^imstellar28:
really? 31 comments and I'm the one who has to say it?
milf
The kid will be fine. You guys are seriously underestimating the hardiness of the homo sapien species. We are designed for hand to hand combat with wild animals, sleeping on bare ground in cold rain, going weeks without food, surviving extreme heat and cold; and you are worried about a 5 minute video shoot with scary costumes?


Ever heard of that thing called psychology?

^I'm kinda betting on imstellar being a Scientologist, at this point. They don't believe in psychology either.

Holy crap, what a bunch of jerks.

Love the song.

I feel obliged to go torrent their album

>> ^mauz15:
Ever heard of that thing called psychology?


You mean the social science? With like the citations, and rigorous double-blind experiments? I've heard of it, but I don't see any trace of it here; all I see is old-fashioned, egocentric mysticism in a reactionary medium.

I'm citing 500,000 years of evolutionary success; those here are content to cite old wives tales.

>> ^direpickle:
^I'm kinda betting on imstellar being a Scientologist, at this point. They don't believe in psychology either.

I'm kinda betting that you're all Christian, at this point. They don't believe in the scientific method and quoting sources of studies that support their claim.

If seeing scary monsters was damaging to a child then we are all damaged. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.

>> ^imstellar28:
>> ^mauz15:
Ever heard of that thing called psychology?

You mean the social science? With like the citations, and rigorous double-blind experiments? I've heard of it, but I don't see any trace of it here; all I see is old-fashioned, egocentric mysticism in a reactionary medium.
I'm citing 500,000 years of evolutionary success; those here are content to cite old wives tales.


Yeah that one. The one that deals with things like how the brain reacts and could even change during high levels of stress, the one that studies phobias, which are very common even with our successful evolution, the one that happens to study how a kid that age is quite undeveloped and highly dependent on the parents despite the many successful adaptations the kid will learn to use and whose brain will polish as the kid grows. To bring the premise that the kid will be fine due to evolutionary excellence without considering the kid's cognitive state at that age nor any psychological factors is equivalent to speculating. I'm not saying the kid will be traumatized, most likely he won't be. But you do not know if the kid will be fine either simply because we have been successful in terms of evolution. The way the parents handle the kid's fearful experiences plays a major role too. None of this can be seen in the video so you cannot claim he will be fine, in the same way that I cannot and will not claim he will have long term damage.

What in the fucking hell were they thinking? I do hope they did something like AC suggests, because hell, this would have given me nightmares now. (that first scene anyway)

>> ^ponceleon:
yeah, way to quote fail:
He who fights too long against dragons becomes a dragon himself; and if you gaze too long into the abyss, the abyss will gaze into you.
-Friedrich Nietzsche


Heh, correction fail.

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil, Aphorism 146

http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/26964.html

Pff, dragons.. who ever heard of dragons?

>> ^Fade:
If seeing scary monsters was damaging to a child then we are all damaged. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.


Agreed. We need to take a lesson from the Japanese. Scaring children is hilarious, endearing and prepares them for their future as either zombie apocalypse survivors or underage mech warrior combatants.

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I keep coming back to this. That song and eerie feeling keeps coming back. This video pretty much covers what I remember being a small child felt like; several hours drug around monstrosities by Mom(yes, I remember adults, especially the menace known as "strangers" as monstrosities), then something creepy with furries on TV, followed by a bizarre trippy experience I don't quite understand to be a dream.

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I came back to this because I found a making of for this clip here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T-PSMPoUpY

Originally I was disgusted by this clip too, and as a parent I still can´t stand to watch it.
It seems though (at least through the making of footage) that it was all not as bad as it seems.
The mother was always nearby and in general it looks like the kid had fun around the monsters.

Clever editing I guess.

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Yup. Major upvote for Newsom cameo. Sooooo hot.