Fox and Friends on the SpongeBob Conspiracy

"Let's ignore for the moment that climate change is not, as Carlson called it, a 'disputed fact,' and focus on the fact that Fox & Friends is complaining that a children's show about talking, pants-wearing sea creatures didn't explain the scientific and political debate behind a complex subject." (Alternet)
siftbotsays...

Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Sunday, December 18th, 2011 8:22pm PST - promote requested by Boise_Lib.

Auger8says...

You know why Fox is always seeing paranoid agendas in everything? It's because they are the people who invented paranoid agendas.

Crosswordssays...

'Boy my kids are stupid watching that nonsense, oh excuse me, I have to make an appointment to inject my face with muscle paralyzing poison.'

Yogisays...

>> ^quantumushroom:

The warming alarmists have gone from doctoring data to preachin' propaganda though a children's cartoon? That's about right.


When scientists make everyday things work like say the Internet you're fine with it. As soon as they talk about you living a bit more "conservatively" they're complete idiots.

GenjiKilpatricksays...

I live in georgia.

On Dec 16th, 1997 the first year that I lived here. It was about 41 degrees outside.

Effin' cold.

On Dec 16th, 2011 last week. It was 72 degrees.

JEsus most be making it slowly warmer ever winter. You know, until he turns the entire southeast into a lake of fire for all the homo sinning that went on last night.. in that lesbian club I was at.

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>> ^quantumushroom:

The warming alarmists have gone from doctoring data to preachin' propaganda though a children's cartoon? That's about right.

residuesays...

Cripes... Uninterpreted data shows a warming since early 1900s... To say the earth isn't slowly warming is ignoring the data entirely..

Air:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cmb-faq/anomalies.php
Ocean:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v465/n7296/fig_tab/nature09043_F1.html
(From: Lyman, J.M., Good, S.A., Gouretski, V.V., Ishii, M., Johnson, G.C., Palmer, M.D.,
Smith, D.M., and Willis, J.K., Robust warming of the global upper ocean: Nature,
v. 465, p. 334-337.)

The only real thing debated (or that should be debated) is why it's warming up. we've got 2 basic reasons: it's because of human interaction or it's because of natural processes (hey the earth has been WAY warmer than it is now several times - http://www.scotese.com/climate.htm)

Go check out a graph of CO2 emissions sometime, though, and tell me there isn't a correlation between greenhouse gas emissions and global warming. Hell of a coincidence, especially considering how gradual natural temperature fluctuations are and how sudden this particular change is.

http://www.usgcrp.gov/usgcrp//Library/nationalassessment/LargerImages/OverviewGraphics/1000YrRecords.jpg

spoco2says...

a) Spongebob is hilarious
b) Fuck you Fox
c) Fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccck you Fox
d through y) F (u^n) ck you fox

Seriously the shit that passes through these people's 'brains' is horrendous. Just... argh

Ryjkyjsays...

QM will tell you that the warming is part of a natural trend which has nothing to do with carbon emissions anyway.

kymbossays...

No, I'm pretty sure QM will tell us a mostly incoherent sentence filled with made up words. But, to be fair, I stopped listening quite a while ago.

alcomsays...

This is a case of one group of alarmists calling out another group of alarmists. The big difference is the cost of being wrong.

If the conservative view is correct and we're riding a natural heat wave that will even itself out, then we're wasting money trying to stop it and we could all be a little more prosperous if we weren't bogged down by recycling and bike lanes.

If the scientists a correct and our consumption is putting us on a path of accelerating climate change on a scale never before seen in the history of our planet, then life on this planet will end. I would tend to err on the side of caution for this one.

>> ^quantumushroom:

The warming alarmists have gone from doctoring data to preachin' propaganda though a children's cartoon? That's about right.

ChaosEnginesays...

>> ^alcom:

This is a case of one group of alarmists calling out another group of alarmists.


Nope, there's no "alarmists". Man made climate change is real. Outside of a bunch of morons (fox, qm and the like) who don't understand the science, there's no debate. The rest of us have accepted the facts of the science and are trying to figure out what to do about it.

It's the same as the evolution/creationism "debate". There isn't one. There is only the accepted science and a manufactured controversy by right wing loons.

>> ^alcom:

If the scientists a correct and our consumption is putting us on a path of accelerating climate change on a scale never before seen in the history of our planet, they life on this planet will end. I would tend to err on the side of caution for this one.


Emphasis mine. Actually, it won't. Life will adapt and evole. Humans, OTOH, are fucked.

obscenesimiansays...

I for one am appalled at the appearance of the blond "woman" in the fuchsia dress. That hairdo alone is responsible for 20 cancer deaths in Australia.

This deserves a *downunder

Ryjkyjsays...

>> ^ChaosEngine:
Nope, there's no "alarmists". Man made climate change is real. Outside of a bunch of morons (fox, qm and the like) who don't understand the science, there's no debate. The rest of us have accepted the facts of the science and are trying to figure out what to do about it.


>> ^criticalthud:

i think we should no longer suffer fools on this topic


While I agree with you guys, there are still fools on both sides. While the climate deniers scare me, what also scares me are the people who would use the fact of man-made climate change to their own ends. Not to mention the silly fucks who think we need to just rush headlong into a solution. I think the general scientific consensus is also that we need to be very careful about the ways we try to manipulate the environment to fix our problems.

ChaosEnginesays...

>> ^Ryjkyj:

>> ^ChaosEngine:
Nope, there's no "alarmists". Man made climate change is real. Outside of a bunch of morons (fox, qm and the like) who don't understand the science, there's no debate. The rest of us have accepted the facts of the science and are trying to figure out what to do about it.

>> ^criticalthud:
i think we should no longer suffer fools on this topic

While I agree with you guys, there are still fools on both sides. While the climate deniers scare me, what also scares me are the people who would use the fact of man-made climate change to their own ends. Not to mention the silly fucks who think we need to just rush headlong into a solution. I think the general scientific consensus is also that we need to be very careful about the ways we try to manipulate the environment to fix our problems.


Regarding the solution, you're absolutely right. I'm really not sure what the solution is, hence my "trying to figure out what to do about it". At a small scale there are lots of things we can do that will make the world a better place generally, reducing waste, being more energy efficient, encouraging public transport or biking, but I have yet to see a solution that addresses the larger national and corporate scale problems.

criticalthudsays...

>> ^Ryjkyj:

>> ^ChaosEngine:
Nope, there's no "alarmists". Man made climate change is real. Outside of a bunch of morons (fox, qm and the like) who don't understand the science, there's no debate. The rest of us have accepted the facts of the science and are trying to figure out what to do about it.

>> ^criticalthud:
i think we should no longer suffer fools on this topic

While I agree with you guys, there are still fools on both sides. While the climate deniers scare me, what also scares me are the people who would use the fact of man-made climate change to their own ends. Not to mention the silly fucks who think we need to just rush headlong into a solution. I think the general scientific consensus is also that we need to be very careful about the ways we try to manipulate the environment to fix our problems.


agreed. I referred only to the question of whether it was occurring and the probability of great harm. I think the problem though, is quite obvious. We take far more from the ecosphere than we give back, and we are blasting through millions of years worth of carbon deposits within the span of a hundred years.

and at the root of that problem is the collective "consumer" mindset... a species that thinks it's brilliant, entitled, and special (thank you religion), but on the whole is idiotic, self-centered and destructive.

The technology for change is well within reach, and our non-renewable resource (oil) should be properly seen as a MEANS to a renewable resource, rather than as a competing commodity.

but the biggest hurdle isn't the technology, it's the mindset of the species. and it might take quite a bit of disaster and suffering to really get that to change...Especially here, in dooshville, USA.

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