*promote the stupidity.

Man with a gun o my my.

Big bad man with a gun.

Fucker should be arrested for brandishing with intent to maim.

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Such a sick society.

Pulling a gun at a snowball fight is fucking stupid.
Throwing a snowball at a cop is fucking stupid.
Yelling "fuck you pig" to a cop is fucking stupid.

Chanting "Don't bring a gun to a snowball fight" is hilarious.

*promote

Detective Baylor (sp?) should be thrown off the force, charged with public endangerment, and thrown in jail. Fracking rage-filled moron.

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>> ^eric3579:
Pulling a gun at a snowball fight is fucking stupid.
Throwing a snowball at a cop is fucking stupid.
Yelling "fuck you pig" to a cop is fucking stupid.
Chanting "Don't bring a gun to a snowball fight" is hilarious.


"Fuck you pig" is protected by the 1st. It's an expression of discontent with the officer for his reckless endangerment. However it could be argued that "Fuck you pig" are fighting words. It depends on how the judge is feeling or in the case of a jury their demographic.

Why have a snowball fight downtown, anyway? You're just asking for some hothead cop to pull a gun on you.

>> ^NordlichReiter:
"Fuck you pig" is protected by the 1st. It's an expression of discontent with the officer for his reckless endangerment. However it could be argued that "Fuck you pig" are fighting words. It depends on how the judge is feeling or in the case of a jury their demographic.

I'd say you're both right - it's arguably protected speech, but it's still f'ing stupid.

Yeah, that was a case of stupid reacting to stupid.

That it ended with only yelling should be considered the best thing that came out of the whole fiasco.

Fuck that pig.

The cop in the blue is trying pretty hard not to crack up.

FUCK THE POLICE STATE!

The guy obviously didn't want to partake in the snowball fight. If people are throwing snowballs at him, he'd be correct in interpreting that as assault. Pulling his gun was probably his best option to get them to stop short of physical restraint. If he'd pointed it at anyone, that would have been stupid. But a person should be able to walk around in public unmolested, with a gun to back that right up. I don't think it was brandishing, and if any of those idiots sue him they should get slapped with a fine for assault. What a mob mentality.

i'm guessing greatgooglymoogly is either (a)intoxicated, (b)mentally disabled (sorry about that one, biology sucks), or most likely (c) Detective Baylor or his underage high-school dropout girlfriend. Only someone in one or more of those categories could take that seriously.

Oh! Sorry, two more category possibilities!: (d) troll (damn! I just fed it!), and (e) fascist.

"Fuck you pig" is just not helping their cause. It's like saying "you're like hitler"... whatever case you had, is weakened significantly.

It may be protected speech, but that doesn't really matter in the end - it's not smart at all.

Drawing his weapon and just holding it there does seem kind of dumb and menacing. I'm sure he felt threatened, but ID yourself as a police officer and if they continue with the assault then arrest them...and even draw down if needed.

Still, brass balls on the people throwing snowballs at an angry guy with a gun.

>> ^greatgooglymoogly:
The guy obviously didn't want to partake in the snowball fight. If people are throwing snowballs at him, he'd be correct in interpreting that as assault. Pulling his gun was probably his best option to get them to stop short of physical restraint. If he'd pointed it at anyone, that would have been stupid. But a person should be able to walk around in public unmolested, with a gun to back that right up. I don't think it was brandishing, and if any of those idiots sue him they should get slapped with a fine for assault. What a mob mentality.


Pulling a gun is a class 3 Misdemeanor and can be interpreted as intent to cause harm. Depending on what state you are in this can get you shot by another person with a gun. One state over, Virginia, is an Open Carry state as well as a conceal friendly state. Pulling a gun with out visible identification that you are an officer can lead to terrible things, and quiet possibly a shit bag.

Pulling a gun was not the first thing to be done. You are not familiar with the force continuum are you? Let me explain.


1 * Verbal command
2 * Handcuff suspect
3 * Use wrist/arm lock
4 * Use takedown
5 * Block/punch/kick
6 * Strike suspect
7 * Wrestle suspect
8 * Pepper spray
9 * Use baton
10 * Use firearm


Do you know why the use of a fire arm is the last straw? Because you should never have to use your fire arm. Going straight to the fire arm is a way for the untrained, and the power hungry to exercise their stupidity.

If a regular citizen cannot carry a weapon concealed in the district then neither should a cop.

Cops already get away with to much shit, so yea fuck that pig.

Awesome. Notice how the news report of the incident conflicts with the actual video.

Apparently the folks with scarfs were "anti-war protesters dressed in anarchist garb" and that innocent detective "pulled back his jacket, exposing his service weapon [and] it's unclear if he did this intentionally". In fact, the only drawn gun mentioned in the article is the uniformed officer responding to a 911 call about an armed man.

Of course in the video you can clearly see a gun in the detectives hand.

You definitely have to commend the uniformed officers for their handling of this incident. That detective, on the other hand, should be crucified. Doubtful he'll even get a warning.

>> ^TheFreak:
Awesome. Notice how the news report of the incident conflicts with the actual video.
Apparently the folks with scarfs were "anti-war protesters dressed in anarchist garb" and that innocent detective "pulled back his jacket, exposing his service weapon [and] it's unclear if he did this intentionally". In fact, the only drawn gun mentioned in the article is the uniformed officer responding to a 911 call about an armed man.
Of course in the video you can clearly see a gun in the detectives hand.
You definitely have to commend the uniformed officers for their handling of this incident. That detective, on the other hand, should be crucified. Doubtful he'll even get a warning.


My point exactly, thank you. I forgot to mention the fact that the other officer could have killed the man for having a gun.

If I were put in that situation the detective would have been treated as a suspect, and handcuffed. Any one with a weapon is treated this way, because they are a threat to public safety, and you can never be sure that the detective isn't a fake. Sounds cliche, I know, but its just how it works.

The officers did not do their jobs in controlling the rogue man with a gun.

Conduct unbecoming.

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Abiggaduchebagsz..and you DON'T bring a gun to a snowball fight!? Flash mobs should be legalized and sponsored for television competitions and at the same time legalize homicide for the week during the games....hand out prizes and what not-

I almost downvoted cuz there wasn't any shooting... that would have been cool.

This makes me want to make a snowball gun. Hmm...

>> ^greatgooglymoogly:
The guy obviously didn't want to partake in the snowball fight. If people are throwing snowballs at him, he'd be correct in interpreting that as assault. Pulling his gun was probably his best option to get them to stop short of physical restraint. If he'd pointed it at anyone, that would have been stupid. But a person should be able to walk around in public unmolested, with a gun to back that right up. I don't think it was brandishing, and if any of those idiots sue him they should get slapped with a fine for assault. What a mob mentality.


are you kidding me? it was a snowball fight! what kind of retard calls a snowball fight assault? the only reason the dumbass cop got out of his unmarked hummer was because it got hit by a snowball. a SNOWBALL! how fucking miserable do you have to be get mad about that? i feel sorry for that stupid fucking pig. he probably beats his wife and kids when he gets home and sees that they built a snowman. what a sad, sad excuse for a human being.

It must be nice to be white in DC. To be able to throw a snowball at a cop, to be able to yell "fuck you pig" at crowd of cops, to be able to get in the face of a detective and yell at him like a child. Must be great. For anyone else, that would have been *eia behavior.

I think the cop is wrong too, but it's amazing to me that the most unruly in the crowd didn't get beaten, shot, tasered, handcuffed. Apparently the police state hasn't reached everyone yet.

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Here's how police properly reacts to incoming snowballs: return fire.

Their chant is backwards. The rule is: You don't bring a snowball to a gunfight.

I like when the girl says "It's snowing outside, is it the size of the snow that bothered you" in reply to his vehicle being hit with a snowball. Small snow = good....Big snow = gun!

The cop's first reaction is to pull out his gun? Fired. He could learn a helluva lot from the uniformed cop, who I thought did a pretty good job.

That was great to see a large group of people actively disobeying the man. There is hope still

What this guy did should have nothing to do with his being a cop. Other than the fact that the other officers arriving didn't put him in cuffs right away(the radio in his hand indicates he was talking to dispatch), this could have been any other citizen. While I think he may have escalated the situation a little quickly, the next option past verbal command is physical action, which this guy didn't do. He simply displayed a firearm, which is PERFECTLY LEGAL. He never threatened to shoot anyone, or abused any police power. The fact that he was a cop has nothing to do with his actions or that of the crowd. FYI a snowball to the head can hurt like shit, I sure as hell don't want to get hit by some stranger who thinks it's funny.

Actually, since this is DC, and they hate handguns, he may have broken the law, and if so then he's pretty stupid being a cop, but he should have every right to defend himself in public and not put up with punks throwing snowballs. Shooting them would be a bit too far, but simply holding a gun? nah.

Organize and resist, comrades

For those of you out there who ever wanted to become a cop, can you honestly say that the top reason was NOT to be able to pull out a Beretta at any time like Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon?

I guess some of us actually grow up to be police officers.

I didn't.

Never grew a Riggs mullet either, though.

SOMEBODY has a case of the Mondays...

A bit? A BIT too far? Yeah, cause shooting people is going a bit too far, but throwing a snowball is assault. Good point.>> ^greatgooglymoogly:
... Shooting them would be a bit too far...

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