"We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace - business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering. They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob. Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me - and I welcome their hatred."

Same as it ever was.
siftbotsays...

Self promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Monday, January 23rd, 2012 4:29pm PST - promote requested by original submitter dystopianfuturetoday.

quantumushroomsays...

So what did FDR do, exactly? If big biz (that old reliable satan of the left) really "controlled" government then all FDR did was make government bigger and more tyrannical, and to this day the left claims big biz still runs it.

FDR's antics extended the Depression. "High tariffs and government-sponsored deflation followed by enormous taxation and unthinkable government expenditures turned a stock market stumble into a decade-long nightmare."

Obama's cut from the same fictive cloth, a dragon pretending to be dragonslayer.

gharksays...

LulzSec posted this on their FB page, via Exarimus Salutem apparently, hold onto your shirts.

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@quantumushroom you missed the point as usual, this vid is about the acknowledgement that corporations want to oversee what the Govt. does - see above for specimen 1A.

dystopianfuturetodaysays...

True. FDR was under great social pressure to make the important changes he did. I don't think we'll see another like him until we are as strong and united as we were back in the day. With all of the recent protests and political action, we are well on our way. >> ^Harzzach:

The time is ripe for another great leader.
We tried that once. Was a bad idea. Try thinking and acting on your own.

crotchflamesays...

>> ^quantumushroom:

"High tariffs and government-sponsored deflation followed by enormous taxation and unthinkable government expenditures turned a stock market stumble into a decade-long nightmare."



Jesus. Neither of those could be attributed to FDR. The tariffs were under Hoover and massive government spending under the new deal is anything but deflationary.

I mean, go ahead and say the New Deal did not work and all that vague nonsense. You would be wrong but at least it would look like a sensible statement.

Yogisays...

>> ^quantumushroom:

So what did FDR do, exactly? If big biz (that old reliable satan of the left) really "controlled" government then all FDR did was make government bigger and more tyrannical, and to this day the left claims big biz still runs it.
FDR's antics extended the Depression. "High tariffs and government-sponsored deflation followed by enormous taxation and unthinkable government expenditures turned a stock market stumble into a decade-long nightmare."
Obama's cut from the same fictive cloth, a dragon pretending to be dragonslayer.


These statements are from a reputable historian or economist I take it?

kymbossays...

You must be new here.>> ^crotchflame:

>> ^quantumushroom:
"High tariffs and government-sponsored deflation followed by enormous taxation and unthinkable government expenditures turned a stock market stumble into a decade-long nightmare."


Jesus. Neither of those could be attributed to FDR. The tariffs were under Hoover and massive government spending under the new deal is anything but deflationary.
I mean, go ahead and say the New Deal did not work and all that vague nonsense. You would be wrong but at least it would look like a sensible statement.

quantumushroomsays...

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot." --Henry Morgenthau, Jr., U.S. Secretary of the Treasury during the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt

The myth of FDR is the edifice on which the modern welfare state wobbles.




>> ^Yogi:

>> ^quantumushroom:
So what did FDR do, exactly? If big biz (that old reliable satan of the left) really "controlled" government then all FDR did was make government bigger and more tyrannical, and to this day the left claims big biz still runs it.
FDR's antics extended the Depression. "High tariffs and government-sponsored deflation followed by enormous taxation and unthinkable government expenditures turned a stock market stumble into a decade-long nightmare."
Obama's cut from the same fictive cloth, a dragon pretending to be dragonslayer.

These statements are from a reputable historian or economist I take it?

quantumushroomsays...

Oh yeah, Hoover, acting like a liberal, paved the way for FDR. You might agree that without Hoover's antics clearing a path, there would've been no New Deal.

FDR is a sacred cow of the left. You here would have a better chance of convincing shinyblurry there is no God than me convincing you FDR was clueless, and overrode the the original power-limiting intent and meaning of the Constitution.


>> ^crotchflame:

>> ^quantumushroom:
"High tariffs and government-sponsored deflation followed by enormous taxation and unthinkable government expenditures turned a stock market stumble into a decade-long nightmare."


Jesus. Neither of those could be attributed to FDR. The tariffs were under Hoover and massive government spending under the new deal is anything but deflationary.
I mean, go ahead and say the New Deal did not work and all that vague nonsense. You would be wrong but at least it would look like a sensible statement.

Ryjkyjsays...

"In 2011 alone, 1.9 million private-sector jobs were created, while a net 280,000 government jobs were lost. Overall government employment has declined 2.6 percent over the past 3 years. (That compares with a drop of 2.2 percent during the early years of the Reagan administration.) To listen to current Republican rhetoric about Obama’s big-government socialist ways, you would imagine that the reverse was true. It isn’t."

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