This speech shows why she is such an incredible actor, I think.

She is such a conduit for the truth.

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Absolutely beautiful speech, straight from the soul. *promote

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Ahem.

Sexual orientation, my lovely. Not sexual preference.

Not a choice. Born that way, yeah?

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Ah well, at least now "all the good women are married or gay" is as true as "all the good men are married or gay" - Equality!

she sounds nervous

She's so brave!

ok, next!

also, who cares?

I love how she says to take 5 minutes to look at each others beauty instead of attacking... Being that the gay community continually attacks the religious community. Hopefully the gay community will take that to heart.

you can always come out as another self-hating conservative gay

you doth protest too much in sifts like this anyway so you might as well come clean.

and I'll even be willing to bet you'll be so insecure at the thought of someone insinuating that you MIGHT be gay, (gasp!) that you'll get all defensive when you reply.

Yeah! Damn those gays holding up signs like "GOD HATES FAGS" outside soldiers' funerals and passing laws denying gays the same rights as straights.

Oh wait --

I'm not talking about extremist. I'm talking about, for example, a bakery that doesnt want to bake a cake for a gay couples wedding due to religious beliefs. The gay couple then get the LGBT to start threatening and blackmailing them and the people that want to use the bakery. This kind of thing is happening more nowadays. Seems like gays think their beliefs are the only ones that matter.

"I don't want to bake a cake for those queers -- for religious reasons"
"I don't want to rent a place to those niggers -- for religious reasons"
"I don't want our club to admit those kikes -- for religious reasons"

Guess what -- those have all been said; you're hiding bigotry behind religion. If your religion says someone is less of a person than you because of the way they're born then your religion is pure crap that should be purged from the human experience for the betterment of humankind as a whole. Gays exposing your bigotry aren't doing you harm, they're doing everyone else a favor.

So you're ok with atheist bakers not making your wedding cake for religious reasons?
Can a jewish mayor refuse you your business licenses because your "Everything Bacon!" store is against his beliefs?
Is it ok if I ask your mother to cover up her shame with a burka for religious reasons?
Can a doctor become a christian scientist and start prescribing exclusively prayer as cancer treatment for little children too? You know, for religious reasons.

You see what I did there?
Nobody gives a crap what you do to yourself in the name of your religion but don't expect us to play by your imaginary rules. You don't want to bake gay wedding cakes? Maybe the wedding cake business just isn't for you. Or maybe you should move to Iran, no gay weddings there and people are very religious as well. You might like it there.

If you believe the baker should be able to turn away a gay couple on the basis of having the freedom to express their beliefs in who they conduct business with, you're free to do so. But if you want to be consistent, then you should also believe that the gay couple should be able to express their opinions to others about the baker's bigoted practice.

If you're taking about someone threatening or blackmailing another person, there's a legal code you can refer to, and that's entirely a different matter.

Yes I'm fine with that. Its their belief. People should not be able to force their beliefs or lifestyles onto somebody else.

Thats the thing though. LBGT doesnt get prosecuted for their mob-like activities. Its a double standard. They try to force their lifestyle onto everybody. I dont think thats right. They should respect what people do religiously.

Now you are mistaking a lifestyle for racism. Not the same thing. Also, its not up to you to decide what people want to believe. There are a lot of weird religions out there, why should they not be accepted?

It seems to me like you have issues with religious people. Maybe you need to relisten to the video.

how exactly are they forcing you to be gay?

what laws are they breaking?

answer: they're not.


still afraid of catching "the gay" I see. So paranoid. So stupid. I agree, you need to move to Iran obviously

hehe you'd lose that bet Voodoo person

if these sensitive actor types want to be gay, let them go be gay, who gives a shit?

I work with a lesbian, she's a very nice girl but I get sick of reading all the gay news she posts on facebook...it's like she's trying to legitimize her own preference

go be gay, you have my blessing, God made you too, but I don't want to hear about it.

prove it's a preference....be gay for a year. If it's just a silly preference, then it should be easy.

It's already legitimate. you lost that battle remember?

If only you had some method of hiding facebook posts in your feed. I know I know...you're so traumatized by seeing facebook posts you don't like.

WHEN WILL CONGRESS PASS A LAW!!

Again, you doth protest too much. Again, it shows your insecurity. You sure I didn't lose that bet?

so many posts on facebook, yet you choose to focus on the lesbian posts...insecure? or not very many friends?

you obviously give a shit...or you wouldn't be posting....your insecurity is showing

If they say someone is a second-class citizen because of how they were born, then yes, the belief is invalid trash and should be treated as such. Not accepted, but outright rejected.

Hiding bigotry behind religion is still bigotry.

I'm oddly with Lantern on this, I don't care. I love Ellen Page and I'm very happy she can be out and comfortable. This isn't news though and it's everywhere because of the 24 hour news cycle. Not her fault, our society is ridiculous. Especially since the next 24 hour news cycle is going to be reporting on her girlfriends like it's important. "SQUIRREL!"

There was a study done that the major networks spent like 27 minutes total on Climate Change for 2013. I'm probably not citing it right but unless that's 27 minutes a day it's horrendously under reported.

well we know why the media cares...because their motivations are based on ratings. All they care about is controversy. They probably don't give a shit that Ellen is gay or not, but they know that a lot of people do care (looking at you lantern) Acceptance of homosexuality is over 50 percent, but it's far from universal.

I agree, my very first reaction to hearing about this was "don't care" But there is a significant difference between our "don't care" and lantern's "don't care" one is a supportive indifference, the other is obviously derogatory.

basically, Lantern is lying...he does care. He obviously cares about the lesbian posts on his facebook that he can't be bothered to hide if it upsets him so. He cares so much as to repeatedly register his not caring on the sift.

I think you and I yogi, look forward to a day when this isn't news because it isn't controversial.

By his own admission, he doesn't view gays as legitimate...but if he didn't care...

...he wouldn't care.

Yeah the media is just a big monster that needs more and more food daily. Lantern may have personal issues with it, but I don't care about his personal issues or biases until it actually hurts someone. I think people should be allowed to be as racist or bigoted as they wish as long as they leave others alone. They'll all eventually die off and if enough gay people are nice to their kids it'll all turn out fine.

He seems to be safely corralled inside his own mind and mostly harmless save for the grass of regurgitated thought that covers his paddock...ok I went too far with this metaphor.

You're right though it's a matter of what is the target of derision, which in my thinking the proper target is the media.

Little tip to solve your issue...

STOP READING HER FUCKING FACEBOOK.

Boom... problem solved. This argument is so tired. You want to find legions of people who agree with you @lantern53. Go visit he comments section of the various articles about this 'story'.

Was I the only one not at all surprised by this news?

Bareboards2 said: Not a choice.
I say: It is for chicks! :-}

Chaucer said: Being that the gay community continually attacks the religious community.
I say: Defending yourself from constant, continuous attack is not the same as making them. Protesting a business that treats you (and the group you identify with) as less than human and unworthy of doing business with is proper, and getting others to do so with you is also proper. If they don't want your business, it's right to tell others like you so they don't accidentally do business with the business. It's also right to tell those not in your group, but that detest bigotry so they can avoid the business too. That's the 'free market' at work, right?

Not forcing you to be gay. They are trying to force you to believe that its a natural thing. Not all religions believe that is natural. Gays should respect that.

Well.. Assault for the threats. Extortion for threatening their customers. I'm sure there are numerous other laws they are breaking but nobody wants to persecute in fear of the mafia... excuse me... LBGT turning on them.

Ah. A lame statement for somebody who has a weak argument.

Again, you are making this out as they are being treated inhumane. In my example of the bakery. They couple that owned it didnt have any problems with the people. They just didnt want to be associated with a gay wedding due to their beliefs. LGBT in turn, ran them out of business because they didnt believe in their lifestyle.

The LBGT is nothing but a mafia type organization. Eventually they will be exposed for what they are.

I also dont want this topic to be about me vs the gay community. I could care less if some dude wants to suck another dudes dick or two ladies scissoring. If gays want to get married, godspeed. However, dont you dare tell me what I should or should not think about that. To me, the bigotry within the gay community is running rampage. They SHOUT that they arent being treated fairly but yet they do most of the persecuting.

When you insult your customer base with your beliefs, you go out of business. That's why one should keep their beliefs out of business (unless they're ready to fail).
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What if it's the 'belief' of the LGBT community that people who think this way should not be associated with, and are simply 'warning' others from accidentally committing the sin of collusion?
If there's really threatening and violence happening from the LGBT towards the 'religious', that's criminal and prosecutable (but perfectly understandable)...I haven't seen it. I have seen the reverse quite often.('religious' people being violent towards LGBTs, just look at Russia and note the similarity between what the open gay bashers there say and what the religious right says (or said recently)).

Voodoo you couldn't be more wrong, or confused.

I deleted my friend's newsfeed several days ago, so...wrong on that point.

Why do you insinuate that I am gay or some such? You think that will offend me the most, which is why you used it. So...you are trying to push my buttons by calling me gay. You saying I am such and such doesnt change my nature at all, which is why I am amused by you.
But good lord, you are confused.

My error...I should have written 'got sick' of the posts, as I had unfollowed her feed several days ago.

By the way, all caps means you have lost your civility. hehe

And yet here you are a demand homosexuals to keep their sexuality a secret, keep it away from the public eye because it upsets you with your faith.
Nobody makes you go kiss a boy (assuming you're male yourself here) but nobody stops you from holding your girlfriends hand in public either. Nobody tells you you can't get married in the legal sense because you're straight and no kid gets bullied in school because they're into the other gender.
You talk about beliefs and lifestyles and in that you disrespect gay people, force your belief onto them. It's not a lifestyle, it is who they are, at the very core of their existence, like being straight is not a lifestyle for you. Your refusal to acknowledge this is nothing but deminishing their very identity.
If homosexuality was a lifestyle, so would be heterosexuality. Lifestyles are not natural attributes given by the gods, lifestyle is choice. Do us a favour, choose neither of them, become asexual. It's the best proof, the Pope will agree.

In the end you won't be able to let go of this because christianity has always been obsessed with sexuality, especially that of other people. So eager to control masturbationary habits (Don't be Onan, fight the urge!), women's sexual freedom (Contraception is for whores!) and the queer (Worse abominations than seafood!) and therefore blind to see that this nonsense crusade against everybodys desires drives the masses away from their oh-so-important message of salvation. That's why you loose the fight, mankind is becoming more tolerant and we refuse to beat down the minorities for you any longer.
You can't have it both ways, you can't preach god is love and then hand us a list of people we're supposed to hate and expect us to nod in silent obedience. Times have changed, the minorities get more and more allies.
Honestly, that's what I admire about the Westboro Baptist Church, they're idiotic haters but at least they're consistent with their ideologies and brave enough to stand up for them.

Wow, you really have being gay on the brain don't you?

I never claimed that you were gay, and by even your own "logic" so what right?

Again, you seem to be so defensive about this. such insecurity.

I thought you didn't care.

You're kidding, right? Gays should "respect" that religions think they're perverts? Or that they are responsible for everything from pedophilia to earthquakes and hurricanes? I'm not even being funny, those are all things the religious right have accused gay people of. Even on this site, we frequently see opponents of gay marriage trot out the tired "if gay marriage, then incest and bestiality" argument as if they were equivalent.

So let me be absolutely unambiguous: FUCK.... THAT.....SHIT.

People absolutely have the right to say they don't want to serve gay people, or blacks, or irish or jews or whoever, and then everyone else has the right to boycott their business and call them out as bigoted assholes on the wrong side of history.

But unless they're in Kansas, they have no right to actually refuse service.

What? Now you are just making what I said up because you have a weak argument and you need to try to fuel the fire. Nobody says to keep it a secret. Honestly, nobody cares if you are gay or not (only mainstream media likes to sensationalize it). I'm just saying, dont tell me what I should believe or shouldnt believe. And if I dont believe what you believe, you should just fuck off. Dont try to ruin peoples livelihood because they dont believe the same things. The gay community tends to do this a lot and to me that makes them no better than the Nazi's.

Again, I'm separating what normal religious people think and the extremist.

and we've been godwin'd. Nope Chaucer isn't an extremist at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

I agree. I think they should be able to boycott the business. and I have no problem with that as long as thats all they did. However, they shouldnt be able to call their customers and threaten them. or call the business and threaten them either. Which is what they have been doing.

What? Nazis? Really?
Are the homos spraypainting yellow crosses on doors in your town again?

Stop acting like you're a victim here. If the gay community could ruin anybodys livelyhood they'd start with the republican party or foxnews (both are doing fine) and not some shitty baker. What might ruin these businesses is not knowing their countries laws (you can't refuse service to select individuals and you can't sell whiskey to 10 year olds no matter what your gods have to say about it) and alienating customers with their douchebaggery. People don't want cake from a homophobe the same way they don't want drinks served by white supremacists or drycleaning from somebody who thinks rape is a crime made up by ungrateful sluts who should've dressed less like whores.

If your community thinks you're an antisocial idiot, it will shun you. They only thing that has changed is why people consider you unworthy of their business.

As I said, the wedding cake business isn't something everybody is cut out to stomach.

But you're ok with the religious community labelling the LGBT community as deviants and potential pedophiles (the irony would be hilarious if it weren't so tragically nauseating)?

Frankly, I think the LGBT community has been remarkably measured and tolerant in their response.

Check your facts, dude. "Normal" religious folks think that gay people are just fine and that God made them that way.

Our human need for black and white, male and female, binary simplistic thinking that you seem to be bound by is just that -- Human.

God is smarter and more wondrously complicated than we can begin to comprehend.

After, he is God the Father, right? And parental units tend to talk simply to their young children.

Which is what we are. Limited in our ability to understand.

Unless you think you are as smart as God? You are God-like in your understanding?

Ones' the kind of asshole that reserves the right to refuse service to someone for any reason whatsoever and the other is a type of asshole that reserves the right to sick the laws on you, sue you because the law is so fucked-up that it will let those assholes do that...I don't get your point.

Uncreative, self-centered pricks are everywhere, regardless of race, creed, color, sexual orientation, or fucking intelligence as a whore with their fractured egos in the personality's driver's seat.

'Spoiled 14-year-old girls scream, stamp feet, tweet it, and get their way, news at fucking eleven."

Maybe someone needs to move to planet douchebag??
Just saying.

Did YOU see what I did there? I called bullshit when it screamed at me in the fucking face.

Homosexuality appears in every species except for those asexual ones who are already flaming. What's more natural than something that every living thing does?

Homophobia exists in one species, ours.

Exactly, you didn't get the point. It isn't about punishing people for being hypocritical idiots, it's about calling them out for it and making clear that behaviour isn't ok.
Let's stick with the wedding cake example for a moment. It's not about forcing somebody to make a shitty cake a dozen other people can do as well or having them pay damages for percieved (by lawyers or pissed off grooms) emotional trauma. I would be perfectly fine with it if a judge ordered those kind of businessowners to just hang some Westboro Baptist style posters on their storefront and call it a day. At least then everybody knew with what kind of people they're dealing with.
The problem isn't that people with shitty opinions exist, they'll be always there, the problem is if we let them act as if it's normal and fine and not adress it.
You would crucify them if they'd say that sex with children is ok, you'd call them out if they were telling you black people should be glad their slave ancestors were treated so well. Shit, just try to open a mosque one block away from ground zero and someone will talk to you about that too.
Why is it wrong then if you confront them when they put gay relationships on the same level as people fucking their dogs or tell us that two fathers can't raise a son?
I was serious when I said I admire the Phelps familiy for their honesty. They're horrible, disgusting people but at least they made up their minds and stick to their beliefs. They won't come to us calling homosexuality a "controversial lifestyle" where you can have "differing opinions" than all the "gay friends they have". You fuck a bloke in the ass you go to hell, that's it. No cures, no dicussions. It's antisocial, cruel and stupid but at least, they very least, it's honest.
Those anti discrimination laws are just crude tool to protrect yourself from their stupid hatred. Not everybody lives in San Francisco where you call your transgender girlfriends for a protest sit in at the local homophobic bakery. Some people have only big brother on their side in their hometown.
It's not about getting your way, it's about stopping others from continuing taking a shit on you.

The "it" that's about JS are fucking insane law-masturbation in Idaho and the inane in both camps duking it out to get their way. Like I said, 14-year-old girls kicking and screaming to have it the way they want it. Dude, it's fucking Idaho-Some of the most back-assward fucks from all over the country have relocated there to get the fuck away from everyone else and their bullshit, as they see it.

Think Utah when Joe Smith skipped the Northeast except with redder necks than clansmen with a history of blunt-force trauma to the head.

Prickville, USA
LGBT's have quite the battle ahead of them there-

No surprise as I thought her straight roles were pretty bad. Best to leave straight romance characters to straight characters. You can't fake animal magnetism.

I wish I could downvote.
Argue about Ellen's acting capabilities all you want but this is just plain BS, exactly the kind of BS queer actors fear. If you're a good enough actor and you've been cast right, you can fake even heterosexuality.
Go watch a Rock Hudson movie.

Homophobia exists in one species.

Ok, so does classical music.

Why do people dislike homosexuals?

Let's have an honest conversation about homosexuality.

One: it's a repellent thought for most men to think of one man fucking another man or sucking his dick.

Two: Priests

Three: homosexual child predators (I know there are hetero predators too...they are also disliked)

Four: Images of gay men parading down the street with red codpieces, dog collars, etc

Five: gay men flinging semen out of 2nd story windows (you can google for the pics if you have the stomach for it)

Six: gay men act strange, limp wristed etc

Now, I'm not even going to cover gay women. I don't think most men care much about gay women except the butch ones. The lipstick lesbians are a big part of straight porn, so...

Also I realize that there are many gay men who are responsible and don't engage in obnoxious gay behavior, and I know there are hetero men who engage in obnoxious behavior.

But the bottom line is, to most straight men, gay behavior is offensive. Keep it in your bedroom and to yourself.

Wow, so much ignorance in one post.

First up, you've just made @Yogi's point. Classical music was invented by humans, i.e. it does not naturally occur in the wild, unlike homosexuality, which does.


One: So fucking what? I have no desire to watch or participate in male homosexual behaviour. Because I'm not gay. Why would I have a problem with those that do?

Two: Eh??? What the hell does "priests" have to do with this topic?

Three: for the last time, homosexuality is not pedophilia. In fact, the majority of child sexual abuse is carried out by heterosexuals.

Four: Again, so fucking what? If you don't like gay men wearing codpieces or dog collars, stop searching google for those images.

Five: Man, you keep some strange fucking company. I've never heard of that before. Maybe it's a thing, maybe (and far more likely) you made it up or exaggerated a few incidents of people acting like assholes. Again, so fucking what? Straight people do terrible things do.

Six: I repeat, so fucking what? Are you that insecure that you can't handle a few queers acting effeminate? If you don't like that kind of person, don't associate with them.

It all comes down to this. No-one is forcing you to be gay or participate in "gay" activities. You have a choice.

Seriously, stop going to gay bars. Stop searching the internet for gay porn. Stop watching TV shows about home decorating. Stop looking for things to be outraged about.

But don't expect other people to conform to your narrow little viewpoint. You don't have the right not to be offended.

Small point: even if being gay were a choice, it would still be wrong to discriminate against homosexuals.

s/people/I/g

the whole "it's a choice" thing is a key part of their argument.

yet they still act like it's an infectious disease that you can catch. Just one of the many inconsistencies in their arguments.

I don't have the right not to be offended? lol

Good god, everyone today is offended. People are offended because a football team is called the 'Redskins'.

People are offended because others don't believe in global warming.

People are offended by Duck Dynasty.

People are offended by Chik-fil-ay

People are offended by anything regarding Christianity.

People are offended by gun laws.

People are offended by nudity.

People are offended by violence.

People are offended by cigarette smokers.

You are obviously offended by me and my preferences.

etc etc etc etc etc

If that is your argument, I just blew it out of the water.

Also, why are my preferences 'wrong' or 'narrow'?

Also, I don't look or search google for homosexual images or apologias or anything else of that nature. I prefer searching google for nude babes.
I can judge just as well as you judge me.
What happened to that old adage 'everyone has their own opinion'?

Perhaps you have too much Chaos in your life and could use a little order.

I did it for you.

Because they are obsessed with what other people do with their crotch.
Because they are as sexually secure as 13 year old girls.
Because they don't know how to ignore things they dislike but don't impact their lives unless they let them.
Because they don't understand the concept of "None of your business!"
Because they have a hard on for treating some people like shit.
Because they don't understand that when Jesus said things like "Love your enemies!" it gave you permission to leave people you don't agree with alone.
Because they don't understand that when Jesus said things like "Forgive them, they have no idea what they're doing!" he may have talked to his daddy but the message was for them as well.
Because they think the slogan "God is love!" includes an unspoken "No homo!" at the end.

Oh FFS. Look, I'll explain it to you one more time, and I'll use small words.

No, you don't have the right not to be offended.
Yes, you have the right to be offended by something, and even to call someone out for their "offensive" behaviour.

The difference between us is that while I find your views distasteful, I'm not calling for you to "keep it in your bedroom and to yourself".


Once again, you are entitled to your opinion, and once you voice that opinion, I'm entitled to call you a homophobic asshole because of it. Yay, freedom of speech!

I'm not afraid of homosexuals unless I'm in a prison where I can't defend myself from being raped by one.

I'm more irritated by homosexuals who apparently can't function unless they are featured on the front page of every newspaper.

They seem to be attention whores, always the first ones to get married if the state/city makes it legal.

Whenever it becomes thoroughly accepted, they'll have to think of something else to draw everyone's attention.

Wow...calling Dr. Freud. You just keep digging yourself into a deeper hole.

first you're obsessed with your lesbian friend, now you're fantasizing about being raped in prison. I can't believe you went there. I mean the whole being raped is one thing...but is going to prison a real possibility for you to think about yourself in that scenario???

nevermind the whole hyper-inflated ego that seems to make insecure people such as yourself think that gay people just won't be able to resist themselves and rape you the first chance they get.

You just seem to be thinking about the activities of homosexuals...

...a lot.

I think you've got some serious soul searching to do.

I knew a guy like you. constantly defensive. most often heard words out of his mouth were gay jokes, Constantly bringing up what the gay people at work were doing even though no one cared. constantly accusing them of being attention whores..yet he was the one who made the biggest fuss about it...He was constantly talking about this other guy who had quit years ago as someone found out that he had a sex change. No one cared. Or if they did, they kept it to themselves for the most part. Except for this guy...

All I can say is that you have to be honest with yourself dude.

For someone who doesn't care, you're having a real hard time walking away.