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Adding video to channels (Money, Parody, Wtf) - requested by ant.

You might be surprised that this is exactly the way 95% of the game industry works.

I am not sure what game series(s) this is referring to.... as far as EA and the Battlefield franchise you could never call them poorly made, they're insanely good and I would buy a new installment every six months if they continued the steady march in quality.

This is pretty dumb, but whatever.

Pretty well done. Point across and Lawlz from my lungs.

Seems accurate enough.

Sports games especially.

Except for the TF2 scene all of this looks like it was done with Garry's Mod.

Replace "EA" with "Activision" and then this would be more accurate

This video is trying to tell me that EA remake the same shitty game that idiots buy over and over.

However, what it actually tells me is that the maker of this video is a hipster asshole who thinks his opinions are worth more than other people's, and who thinks because they don't like Call of Honour, then people who do are simple minded, gullible sheep. This asshole is so full of his or her own opinion that anyone who disagrees must have fallen for EA's evil marketing because anyone actually thinking independently would surely have the same opinion as them, as they're so fucking special; they're the only sane person.

EA, Activision and Ubisoft do produce many shitty games and are involved in underhanded tactics like buying reviews. However, that doesn't mean all their games suck and it doesn't mean people who like an EA game, even an uninnovative sequel, are wrong. The implication that we should all follow what this guy thinks (or if you prefer, independently come to the same conclusion) would make us sheep.

Pretty sure it's 100% Garry's Mod.>> ^Auger8:

Except for the TF2 scene all of this looks like it was done with Garry's Mod.

Origin is not so big, Steam is not so small and so innocent. Steam/Valve have done plenty of shitty moves on their own.

How did the only "sane" guy here get run over by a massive boat you could see miles away, traveling at 5mph, on land???

The bribing of IGN is more accurate than anything else. IGN will hype the SHIT out of a game and not tell everyone it absolutely blows until after they've bought it (preorders and launch days). IGN gets an advanced copy and they could easily warn people about say "Spiderman" but they choose not to, because of the revenue from ads and such.

Baaaah.

I guess you're gonna vote for Obama and Goldman Sachs again this year as well?

>> ^Quboid:

This video is trying to tell me that EA remake the same shitty game that idiots buy over and over.
However, what it actually tells me is that the maker of this video is a hipster asshole who thinks his opinions are worth more than other people's, and who thinks because they don't like Call of Honour, then people who do are simple minded, gullible sheep. This asshole is so full of his or her own opinion that anyone who disagrees must have fallen for EA's evil marketing because anyone actually thinking independently would surely have the same opinion as them, as they're so fucking special; they're the only sane person.
EA, Activision and Ubisoft do produce many shitty games and are involved in underhanded tactics like buying reviews. However, that doesn't mean all their games suck and it doesn't mean people who like an EA game, even an uninnovative sequel, are wrong. The implication that we should all follow what this guy thinks (or if you prefer, independently come to the same conclusion) would make us sheep.

Seems like a lot of anger and energy has gone into this. Anger and energy maybe better spent just not buying their games.

I mean, I hadn't even HEARD of Origin (I thought he was referring to the Australian power retailer, which is not surprising, given this is the power company logo and this is the EA one. Not entirely dissimilar.

In any case, it's not lot Steam isn't doing insanely well, it's not like indie games aren't going great guns. So really I feel this is more about this guy falling for marketing over and over and feeling pretty damn stupid about it.

Can you say Diablo III, IGN sure can!

>> ^Yogi:

The bribing of IGN is more accurate than anything else. IGN will hype the SHIT out of a game and not tell everyone it absolutely blows until after they've bought it (preorders and launch days). IGN gets an advanced copy and they could easily warn people about say "Spiderman" but they choose not to, because of the revenue from ads and such.

I have some pretty strong and negative opinions about EA, Activision, Ubisoft, and now, Blizzard. I'm thinking this was made by a PC gamer. Lot's to be pissed/disgusted about if you are a PC gamer and have been for at least 10-15 years or so.

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

Baaaah.
I guess you're gonna vote for Obama and Goldman Sachs again this year as well?
>> ^Quboid:
This video is trying to tell me that EA remake the same shitty game that idiots buy over and over.
However, what it actually tells me is that the maker of this video is a hipster asshole who thinks his opinions are worth more than other people's, and who thinks because they don't like Call of Honour, then people who do are simple minded, gullible sheep. This asshole is so full of his or her own opinion that anyone who disagrees must have fallen for EA's evil marketing because anyone actually thinking independently would surely have the same opinion as them, as they're so fucking special; they're the only sane person.
EA, Activision and Ubisoft do produce many shitty games and are involved in underhanded tactics like buying reviews. However, that doesn't mean all their games suck and it doesn't mean people who like an EA game, even an uninnovative sequel, are wrong. The implication that we should all follow what this guy thinks (or if you prefer, independently come to the same conclusion) would make us sheep.



What? You know this is a video about EA, not a political thing, right? I can assure you I am not going to vote for Obama or Goldman Sachs this year but this has zero to do with me thinking this guy is a prick for setting himself up as some sort of superior being.

If the video just criticised EA's game production system and how it results in a massive lack of innovation, and how PC gamers tend to get shafted, fine. I agree. But this guy implies that players who buy the latest FIFA, Battlefield or whatever are fools and that's insulting. I bought BF3 because I liked BF:BC2, not because something shiny was dangled in front of me and not because IGN gave it good marks. Likewise, I bought FIFA12 because I played FIFA11 lots and even though little has changed, I've still got many, many times as much gameplay from it than I've got from most other games from developers and publishers big and small.

My complaint isn't that poor little EA don't deserve the criticism. My complaint is that he seems to think people who don't share his opinion must be fools.

What, something I personally dislike is popular? I've never been so outraged. To the internet!

I'm done with IGN. It never dawned on me that they would lie on reviews...last couple games I got based on their ratings, sucked.>> ^Yogi:

The bribing of IGN is more accurate than anything else. IGN will hype the SHIT out of a game and not tell everyone it absolutely blows until after they've bought it (preorders and launch days). IGN gets an advanced copy and they could easily warn people about say "Spiderman" but they choose not to, because of the revenue from ads and such.

upvote for the Steam truck. I still haven't bought Battlefield 3 because it's only on Origin, and not on Steam. Maybe it's a great game, but EA is just being greedy with Origin.

>> ^Quboid:
Call of Honour
Please tell me you're being sarcastic.

>> ^Fantomas:

>> ^Quboid:
Call of Honour
Please tell me you're being sarcastic.


I just used that as a generic name for Call of Duty / Medal of Honour / Battlefield / etc type games.

To call the battlefield franchise "well made" is a bit of an insult to high quality fps games. BF2 was released CHOCK full of bugs (if you played it, you'll know) and was left unmaintained. Certain game-breaking bugs were left in for months and months at a time despite ruining huge aspects of the game. On top of the bugs that were not fixed, new content was released and promoted - that ALSO contained bugs. Even when bugs were fixed, new bugs were introduced. And many of the fixes involved changes that negatively affected other aspects of play! How can this be called "well made"?

I consider myself an experienced gamer. I enjoy many genres, and have been playing for ~18 years. I don't just play huge titles, but i do play those too. I play indie games, casual games, you name it. The only company that i go out of my way to avoid is EA and that's due to bad experiences with their games. I am not "just a hater", as i did play dragon age and sang its praises once i'd come to accept that it wasn't simply another standard EA title.

Take bioware for example. Before they were 'bought' by EA they made some of the (arguably, but almost universally accepted) best games of their particular genre. Baldur's gate 1 and 2, neverwinter nights.... we're talking sweeping epics that involved in depth and original story lines that carried the game single handedly (i mean, it was only isometric, the story was everything). Then suddenly, EA get involved and bioware produce mass effect - instead of being able to choose from a plethora of moral and immoral dialog options, actions, we get a good/neutral/evil meter and equivalent options. I'm not going to tell anyone mass effect is a bad game; it is up to the public to decide and they have decided it's good. But i insist that, but for the dated graphics, their earlier RPGs were better in every single other way, and what they provide in their modern RPGs falls short on any RPG checklist you care to make when you put it up against Baldur's gate, icewind dale, etc.

I was very excited when dragon age was released, but then immediately disappointed again when dragon age 2 was released - and who can honestly claim that 2 lived up to 1? Can anyone deny that it was shat out at maximum velocity to cash in quickly on the success of the first? It was a completely different game!?

I hope i have managed to not sound like an anti-fanboy cock; i have spent hundreds and hundreds of pounds on game flops by EA which were underhandedly promoted by reviewers that i then learned not to trust. I feel utterly cheated by them but that is why i don't buy their games now, and that's why you'll find more and more people expressing the opinions herein and in the video. So yes, it's very easy to say "lolz u shudnt buy there gamez u foolz", but when there's several teams of people working together to try and trick you into doing something it may take you a few goes before you learn what the shape of the turd looks like. It's underhanded and i would have thought you could understand why people get annoyed by that.

I'm not surprised piracy has increased with the steady decline in VALUE FOR MONEY. I payed £30 for half life 1 and i still play it to this day. I'd gladly pay £100 for it in retrospect. The first installment of a battlefield game costs me £40, and £15 for an extra few maps or guns they add. Valve are still giving me stuff for free, and i cannot thank them enough for putting pride in their work, and for that they will have the kind of brand respect that EA will never get.

@Fletch hit the nail right on the head. I don't think people who disagree are stupid, or wrong, or anything. But if you haven't experienced the old AND the new (that goes for everyone, not just fans of the new or just fans of the old), then you are not in an ideal position to put forward arguments about whether or not games have increased in value for money, or decreased in value for money; i'm glad you enjoy modern games, but i feel disappointed and cheated by them and that's a perfectly valid thing to express, and it is not your place to tell someone they're over reacting or being a baby. If you haven't tried it yourself, you can't know for sure.

I think that is what this guy was trying to say in a humourous way, probably didn't do the best job of it ever but it was at least funny. And do remember it was meant to be funny. I think some people in this thread in favour of EA have looked more foolish in their pro-EA arguments than this guy did in his anti-EA exaggerations. Remember it was meant to be funny.

TL:DR - i don't blame you

I played Half-Life-1 through when it came out originally... like... 15 yrs ago? I still remember many scenes from it.

> How can this be called "well made"?

I have probably 750 hours into the various Battlefield installments along the years. They have always given a visceral experience. I have always kept my PC upgraded near the high end to give them enough horsepower. They aren't just well made, they are unbelievable quality.

I would pay for BF3 and D3 again. Both combined already consumed 200 hours of my lifetime and they were spent having fun. Great deal if you ask me.

Why people have such ridiculously high standards is beyond me.

Pretty much... *facepalm*

I laughed my ass off at the tf2 clip.

Is the music that starts at ~ 1:55 from F-Zero?

"Undeserved Profit"? Pretty sure no one has ever been forced to buy things from them. I'm not sure if he's insinuating they've committed some type of fraud, but from the context of the video I think he's making a value judgement.

The idea that Steam is a small player, 100% squeaky clean and all about the customer? Well, they're a damn-sight better than most of their competitors, but I point you to their allowance of regional pricing hikes as one example (see the Australian store). As for their size, Steam sales equate to approximately 70+% of all digital sales, I think they're gonna be okay next to Origin.

BTW, no one has forced anyone to use Origin. As much as I want to play BF3, ME3, etc., I've managed to go without buying games released on it (and that doesn't mean pirating them either). If it's really a problem for you, show some self control.

For that matter, if you don't agree with their treatment of workers, there's another reason not to use their products.

Vote with your wallets, look elsewhere for your entertainment. There's a veritable Golden-Age of independent games going on all around you!

In reply to this comment by dannym3141:
Take bioware for example. Before they were 'bought' by EA they made some of the (arguably, but almost universally accepted) best games of their particular genre. Baldur's gate 1 and 2, neverwinter nights....


Forgot about Bioware. They're on my list as well. They used to be an automatic buy, but DA2... EA is poison to game companies.

It's difficult to explain to young'uns who were raised on consoles why old-school PC gamers are so disappointed in the current state of PC gaming. This whole backlash that PC gamers are "elitist crybabies" is just so tired. I have a gaming mouse and a 104 keys, yet many PC games are designed for multiple platforms, and, unfortunately, the lowest common denominator is an ADD-addled console player with a gamepad. The result is cookie-cutter dross that is only made discernible in its genre by the textures and artwork that make up its world. I'm not saying great AAA pc games aren't being made any more, just that there are so few, and this move by developers towards always-online DRM for single-player gaming (Ubisoft, Blizzard) limits my choices even more, as I refuse to support that bullshit.

I still play through Doom and Doom2 about once a year and have a blast every time. I'm about halfway through yet another run of Diablo II, and I'm thinking I'll fire up Planescape: Torment or Baldur's Gate after that. So many excellent older games to play and replay, not to mention the large number of quality indie games being released. I don't miss Diablo III one bit.