Why You Always Lying has been added as a related post - related requested by newtboy.

Pot calling the kettle black

The media has lied 24/7/365 since Trump won.



https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kamala-harris-lies-repeatedly-in-first-press-conference-as-bidens-running-mate/

Whataboutism.

More like glass of weak tea calling the kettle black, buddy. Democrats and the mainstream media at it's worst aren't 1/10 the liars their far right extremist counterparts are.

Whataboutism based on pure lies and exaggerations by a repeatedly convicted con man and liar, the man you said has carte Blanche to lie whenever he pleases because only a moron tells the truth if it might hurt him, especially under oath.
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Even if that were true, which it is absolutely not, the media is comprised of tens of millions of people worldwide.
Giving you the benefit of pretending to accept your lie, that makes Trump, all on his little lonesome, as big a liar as tens of millions of people you call monstrous liars combined.

Still unbelievably full of shit and incapable of honesty.

Lol....nationalreview, as a source?!? Too funny, Bob. About as biased as they come. If they applied the same standards to any trump speech it wouldn't say he lies repeatedly, it would say he lies constantly when he's even coherent....but they don't apply the same standards, do they. I bet they repeat Trump's new brother lie, another blatantly false and undeniably racist attack on a politician of color. He can't help himself. What a turd you gleefully follow into the sewer.

Citing the National Review in an attempt to fact check. Fucking lol.

Can I ask you an honest question: why back the Trump horse?

I'm assuming that as a conservative, there's things you want accomplished in government. At least, I think you do. I get the whole "some men just want to watch the world burn" deal, if that's your goal, but if you want something more substantial it doesn't seem like Trump is getting you there. Sure, it's fun to piss people off, but that shtick only goes so far. What have you really accomplished here? Hillary ain't locked up; Mexico ain't paying for the wall; the economy's in ruins and has been since September of 2019; China's ascendant and the trade deal is totally dead; Russia's more powerful than ever; our allies are alienated and American global prestige is in complete tatters; the Left is more invigorated than any time since the early 70s and the Right is so devoid of ideas or accomplishments that they're reduced to "Sleepy Joe" and trying to tar opponents as Communists as if it's suddenly 1952 again.

Literally, what did you win with Trump?

That all bob has these days, what a lame sad person.

You are just dumb enough to believe what you said aren't you...

Hey, come on... asking the bobs of the alt-right to articulate thoughts AND explain in words!?... that's too much to ask.

Besides, if we don't see/treat Trump like an Russian Manchurian Candidate that he clearly IS (willingly or unwillingly)... then that in itself is a bigger problem. It's not a left/right-ideology or Republican/Democrat-party issues. It's whether you're a traitor or not of the USA issue.

You've been grifted.

I know you probably have family and friends that you love very much who feel the same about Trump as you do. Breaking ranks is not an option for you. With that in mind, I can only conclude that the only reason you continue state your case here is because you're trapped between your family and truth. To defend Trump is to defend those you love.

Stay true to your family in victory or defeat.

What?
You think he and his family have swallowed a lie, and your suggestion is to stick with the lie so he doesn't upset his family, but they all stay a family of ignorant liars?
Horrible advice.
Lying is NEVER a good idea or good advice. Excusing or giving permission to lie isn't much better.
I'm disappointed.

@newtboy

You are right. Lying is never a good idea.

I stand my ground.

Ok....I'm confused.
I agree with the 'stay true to your family' part, but I feel like giving lip service to lies and liars can never achieve that, even when done to avoid conflict or contradiction.

To stay true to anyone, you first have to remain truthful, especially when it's uncomfortable.

Did I misunderstand you?

BTW, how and when did you make that discovery?

I was young enough that I'm not certain, but probably around 5-6 years old when I realized my parents, and society, lied to me constantly.

It could have been the realization that Santa wasn't really visiting my house, or other fantasies I realized were just that, fantasies, it might have been the realization that working hard and being "good" doesn't guarantee success like I had been told, it might have been the realization that "better living through chemistry" was more a pipe dream than reality....I'm just not sure exactly which trigger fired that gun.

6 years old was a weird year. It's when i stopped taking people's word as fact, and likely when I became a professional grade cynic.
I think that's also the year I decided having children was abusive and I didn't want to do that to someone.

I've always thought if anyone could bring bob around it would be you.

Unfortunately the facts seem to have been spitballs at a battleship with him.

Your efforts have not been lost on everyone though and I applaud all the research and knowledge you've given to all in presenting the facts.

But sometimes when a child is fascinated with fire they will still play with matches no matter what anyone says. Sometimes you just need to get burned to discover the truth.

I can only assume that bob does what he does as to not be alienated from those he loves.

I know he does have some compassion in him.

https://videosift.com/video/Inbred-Family-The-Whitakers

It just needs some attention to grow.

Nice of you to say, but Trumpublicans are immune to facts.

I've thought for years my discussions with Bobby aren't for him, they're to contradict his nonsense so other people don't get conned by liars. He's a total lost cause, proven when he said only stupid people tell the truth under oath if the truth might hurt them, defending Trump lying in his depositions. Anyone who supports perjury is lost.

Yes, sometimes kids who like fire need to be burned , badly, to gain respect for fire...I did. Sometimes even that doesn't teach them (my brother didn't stop making pipe bombs just because he almost blew himself up, for instance). The problem is, they usually burn down a house or two before getting burned enough themselves, maybe burning a few people to death for lack of a lesson. I say, if you see a kid playing with matches a second time, light their ass on fire in a dirt field, give them all the fire they'll ever want and then some. If they survive, they'll almost certainly quit lighting fires.

Bob is lighting fires at home with his other firebugs. None of them are concerned, none of them wants the fire out.

As a child I played with matches up in the attic of our house. The matches were book matches from a funeral home my father worked for as a part time job when he was off duty as a cop. The cover of the matches had a black glossy finish.

Dad found the matches while cleaning out the attic. Dad called my name from upstairs and I headed that way.

His first question to me was, "Were you playing with matches up here?"

His second question was, "Are you lying?"

His third question was, "Are you lying?"

His last question was, "I'm only going to ask you one more time. If you lie to me I'm taking you down to city hall and lock you up. Were you playing with matches up here?"

He grabbed my hand and turned it palm up. He pulled out the pack of matches and picked up some floor sweepings then sprinkled it on the black glossy cover. And DAMN! wouldn't you know it. There stood a perfectly proud little fingerprint. It matched the one on my hand. (I guess. I never brought a lawyer.)

Out to the car we went. I was on my way to jail which gave me about five minutes to rethink my answer. The closer we got, the bigger my fears grew. He made the last turn onto the street for city hall.

I cracked! "I did it. I was playing with the matches." I confessed.

My answer was my Get Out of Jail Free card.

Many years later I brought up that day with my dad. He confessed that he had no idea what he was going to do if I didn't crack.

My only reply to him was, "You bastard!" We both laughed together.

Yes, but still this.

"I think it's about the kind of player you want to be....that's what will be remembered about you, not your hardest hits but how often you helped opponents to their feet afterwards."

Some people don't want to be helped back up, they actually deny they ever fell....while laying face down in the dirt.
I'll help anyone up that wants up.
I've learned my lesson about lifting those who don't, they bite.
That doesn't mean i should spit on them when they're down, no matter how tempting it might be.

So, do you redact: "I'm disappointed."

I'm still confused.
Are you advocating sticking with a lie so as to not alienate family?
If so, I can't retract. If I misunderstand and that's not your position, yes, I retract and will redact if you wish.
Please clarify.

I'm saying his love for his family and friends is what he is afraid of losing. That's a pretty big problem. How he handles it depends on if he gets burnt. Maybe it's too big of a leap for him, I don't know.

All I do know is, there is a glimmer of hope with him.

Edit:

I don't advocate lying. That is his choice. The only thing that may change him will be his lies coming back on him. I say, "Let it be. Speaking words of wisdom, Let it be."

Hmmmm....
I agree, that's a problem, but if the choice is lonely honesty or lying with friends and family, you probably know which I choose. I've walked away from 1/2 my family because they're dishonest.

As I see it, as long as their pants are on fire, they're gonna get burned. I would hope they would just take their pants off together, even if it's uncomfortable for them to be exposed for a while, but some would rather die than be the odd man out or admit a mistake.

I hope you're right, but i think you may be tricked by wishful thinking. I'm not at all sure he has family, much less that they're the reason he sticks with a con man. I feel like if one woke up to reality, he would shun them as libtards instead of following them into the light. Maybe that's what he fears will happen to him if he calls out the lies.

Edit: ok, if you suggest stick by your family, but don't lie or ignore lies in order to achieve that goal, I'm on board. Disappointment retracted....do you want it redacted too?

It's impossible to trick someone when nothing else matters.

Today's new lie....the Trump campaign put out a snapchat add claiming to offer a giveaway of Trump swag and $10 cash for free, just pay 69¢ shipping cost that must be paid by credit card, but hidden in the tome of microscopic small print is the truth, you are signing up for the Trump4President2020 Club.” Members are automatically billed $142 every month, with no option for a refund." Hardly "free"....not just 69¢...Another Trump scam in a long long line of nothing but Trump scams.

This is your hero, @bobknight33...conning his own supporters out of their money again using the craziest of scam tactics....again. That's what he thinks of you, you're a rube who's money he can steal, because you aren't smart enough to see the scam.

You can do what you want. I only asked because I wasn't sure I made myself clear. It's ok.

OH Wait! I see what's going here. You're about to give me an English lesson.

I'll leave it then, I don't need to hide from my mistakes as long as I rectify them.

It's nice of the media to reveal itself and what passes for reporting these days.

Reporters.
Reporting the falsehoods from the Whitehouse has always been what passes for reporting. Derp. Try again bobski

Jesus sent me a message to give you.....
https://youtu.be/G5IvAvzyfPA