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21 Comments
Zawashsays...And still no *gay?
siftbotsays...Invocations (gay) cannot be called by Zawash because Zawash is not privileged - sorry.
SDGundamXsays...I got your back... in a totally not *gay way. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
And still no *gay?
siftbotsays...Adding video to channels (Gay) - requested by SDGundamX.
Sagemindsays...Oh man, I forgot we had that, no idea how I could forget, I was just thinking "equality"
A10anissays...OK, I'll be the devils advocate and say; Are ads like these necessary? Don't ads like these make the homophobes react with; "See, they are now promoting being gay." My question is; Who are these ads directed at? Being "gay" is totally accepted by right minded, 21st century individuals so, it would seem, ads like these are directed at the homophobes which, surely, is self defeating. If I don't like something, seeing an ad will certainly not change my mind.
bcglorfsays...You have to know it's not going to 'settle' any time soon. Actually, it's not going to 'end', ever.
Underneath the hatred and everything else, this issue hits into the bedrock questions around free will. What actions and behaviors do we 'count' as ones that people had the free will to choose or not choose? We have crowds vehemently entrenched on both extremes of everything and nothing. How we should structure our social contracts, rules and laws to be 'fair' in that context is going to be an argument for all eternity I fear.
OK, I'll be the devils advocate and say; Are ads like these necessary? Don't ads like these make the homophobes react with; "See, they are now promoting being gay." My question is; Who are these ads directed at? Being "gay" is totally accepted by right minded, 21st century individuals so, it would seem, ads like these are directed at the homophobes which, surely, is self defeating. If I don't like something, seeing an ad will certainly not change my mind.
youdiejoesays...*backup=[...snipped...]
siftbotsays...Added alternate embed code for this video - backup requested by youdiejoe.
LiquidDriftsays...It's protesting Putin's bullshit in a hilarious way, which is the best way to protest.
Fusionautsays...was reminded of this:
newtboysays...Wow, thanks...never saw that! Amazing insight.
was reminded of this:
shatterdrosesays...Think of it more like a slap in the face. Like, saying: "hey, dumbass, you're a dumbass and here's why." It's illustrating the ridiculousness of Putin's stance on "public displays of homosexuality." Come on . . . football . . . a bunch of men in tight spandex grabbing each other's asses while grabbing for a ball . . . wrestling is nothing but a bunch of sweaty men groping each other . . .and neither allow women . . . all while millions of people watch who get's to be on "top" and "dominate" the other. It makes Freud proud.
OK, I'll be the devils advocate and say; Are ads like these necessary? Don't ads like these make the homophobes react with; "See, they are now promoting being gay." My question is; Who are these ads directed at? Being "gay" is totally accepted by right minded, 21st century individuals so, it would seem, ads like these are directed at the homophobes which, surely, is self defeating. If I don't like something, seeing an ad will certainly not change my mind.
bareboards2says...*length=32
siftbotsays...The duration of this video has been updated from unknown to 32 secs - length declared by bareboards2.
A10anissays...You seem to have, inadvertently, illustrated my misgivings about the ad. If you honestly believe that, metaphorically, "slapping someone in the face," or calling them a "dumbass" is likely to get them to change their opinion, you know little of human nature. Personally, were I "gay" and a participant in the games, I would, like Jesse Owens, respond to the ignorance with a dignified silence, and let my abilities talk for me. Rhetoric, such as yours, and rather pointless ads, simply inflame the situation.
Think of it more like a slap in the face. Like, saying: "hey, dumbass, you're a dumbass and here's why." It's illustrating the ridiculousness of Putin's stance on "public displays of homosexuality." Come . . . football . . . a bunch of men in tight spandex grabbing each other's asses while grabbing for a ball . . . wrestling is nothing but a bunch of sweaty men groping each other . . .and neither allow women . . . all while millions of people watch who get's to be on "top" and "dominate" the other. It makes Freud proud.
shatterdrosesays...It's called shaming. Look it up. And yes, it does work. Matter of fact, psychologically, it's one of the surest ways to endure behavior. Unfortunately, we've lost that in America with teachers barred from using red ink, giving bad grades and every little league athlete getting an award.
When 90% of the worlds population is making fun of you, you begin to rethink your stance. And conversely, it's the same tactic bullies use but only in a negative way. As you said, "human nature" is to conform with a little room for individualism. People want to fit into the crowd, and when you're the only one gay-bashing, you stand out in a very negative way when everyone is either ignoring you or calling you an idiot.
(Not to mention, ads like this cause those of us who support gay rights to cheer louder thus making it harder for those beating up LGBT's to get away with their acts feeling like they did the whim of society. It's called Mob Behavior. It's also very human . . .)
You seem to have, inadvertently, illustrated my misgivings about the ad. If you honestly believe that, metaphorically, "slapping someone in the face," or calling them a "dumbass" is likely to get them to change their opinion, you know little of human nature. Personally, were I "gay" and a participant in the games, I would, like Jesse Owens, respond to the ignorance with a dignified silence, and let my abilities talk for me. Rhetoric, such as yours, and rather pointless ads, simply inflame the situation.
A10anissays...This is my last response. Listen; "shaming" doesn't work. In fact you contradict yourself by saying; "Matter of fact, psychologically, it's one of the surest ways to endure behavior." Shaming endures behaviour? What are you talking about? Education works. It really is that simple. Stop the brainwashing of kids by zealots. Stop the education of kids by bronze age mythology. And stop using infantile ads, like these, to try and "inform," when all they do is confirm, to homophobes, their prejudices. Mature debate and education, education, education will ultimately win any homophobic arguement. I'm done..
It's called shaming. Look it up. And yes, it does work. Matter of fact, psychologically, it's one of the surest ways to endure behavior. Unfortunately, we've lost that in America with teachers barred from using red ink, giving bad grades and every little league athlete getting an award.
When 90% of the worlds population is making fun of you, you begin to rethink your stance. And conversely, it's the same tactic bullies use but only in a negative way. As you said, "human nature" is to conform with a little room for individualism. People want to fit into the crowd, and when you're the only one gay-bashing, you stand out in a very negative way when everyone is either ignoring you or calling you an idiot.
(Not to mention, ads like this cause those of us who support gay rights to cheer louder thus making it harder for those beating up LGBT's to get away with their acts feeling like they did the whim of society. It's called Mob Behavior. It's also very human . . .)
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shatterdrosesays...Endure is supposed to be induce.
This is my last response. Listen; "shaming" doesn't work. In fact you contradict yourself by saying; "Matter of fact, psychologically, it's one of the surest ways to endure behavior." Shaming endures behaviour? What are you talking about? Education works. It really is that simple. Stop the brainwashing of kids by zealots. Stop the education of kids by bronze age mythology. And stop using infantile ads, like these, to try and "inform," when all they do is confirm, to homophobes, their prejudices. Mature debate and education, education, education will ultimately win any homophobic arguement. I'm done..
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