Goooooo alien, i'll watch this a bit later and leave some notes for pprt

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Haven't they increased their following substantially in the time since the documentary was aired?

I watched this not-so-shocking "expose" in the past, and there's surprising here at all.

Those who made innapropriate and outlandish statements were either expelled or dealt with internally. The same would happen with any other BNP member today.

Advocating or perpretrating violence is a noble solution, but these opinions and these individuals are products of their environment.

Imagine that 30 years ago you lived in a nice town where everyone got along nicely and you self safe at night. Today one quarter of the population is Asian, religiously and culturally segregated, heavily unemployed, unfriendly, self-centered and violent. Of course they're mad.

Does anger make violence a noble solution? Never.

You can be sure as hell if immigration weren't so mismanaged and had a less gloomy prospect the BNP would not be running on this particularly pressing social issue. Perhaps they'd focus on health care, the elderly, road signage... who knows.

The British people have a right to demonstrate concerns about the politics of immigration and they have a right to vote for the BNP. If you're averse to that, you're more intolerant that you think they are.

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I watched this not-so-shocking "expose" in the past, and there's surprising here at all.
Those who made innapropriate and outlandish statements were either expelled or dealt with internally. The same would happen with any other BNP member today.

That's hilarious. It's akin to the current government ministers abusing the system of expenses to plump up their salaries and then paying it back, as though that makes it better. As you well know, getting rid of the visible symptoms doesn't hide the illness. It's like throwing away a drug addict's favourite spoon and lighter.

Actually, who am i kidding? It's nowhere near similar, because these people probably still have active roles for the BNP only off the cards. There's ways round everything.

Advocating or perpretrating violence is a noble solution, but these opinions and these individuals are products of their environment.

Oh the naughty child syndrome argument. That's a good one. Right up there with "His heart's in the right place, bless him." Let's forgive everyone everything because they're just a product of their upbringing. I was emotionally abused when i was growing up, i've turned into a law abiding, non-violent, caring person. I know people who were physically, sexually abused growing up, they're also great people now. That excuse works for VERY limited variables.

Imagine that 30 years ago you lived in a nice town where everyone got along nicely and you self safe at night. Today one quarter of the population is Asian, religiously and culturally segregated, heavily unemployed, unfriendly, self-centered and violent. Of course they're mad.
Does anger make violence a noble solution? Never.

Heh, i'll do you one better. THIRTY YEARS AGO nick griffin (the BNP elected MEP) was taking an organisational role in the NF (national front). After having disagreements with the NF (he was too racist), he played a key role in arranging the INF (international third position). Read more about THAT particular racist group here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Third_Position.

So you've exposed your own defence of the BNP as a load of old bollocks without me even having to do it for you. Congratulations.

But regardless of your lying defence of these people, i still respect your right to an opinion. At least now you'll accept that the BNP are racists, are staffed by ex-criminals and ex-neo-nazis. At least now you'll accept that you want a racist government to go along with your racist ideals, and people will have to just accept you as you are. At least now you won't be hiding behind a facade of legitimacy, right?

You can be sure as hell if immigration weren't so mismanaged and had a less gloomy prospect the BNP would not be running on this particularly pressing social issue. Perhaps they'd focus on health care, the elderly, road signage... who knows.

OH MAYBE NOT!!!!!

The British people have a right to demonstrate concerns about the politics of immigration and they have a right to vote for the BNP. If you're averse to that, you're more intolerant that you think they are.

I'm extremely intolerant of intolerancy.

Anyone reading any of these posts, stop around the point where pprt willfully walks into his own debunk, beginning with "these poor guys 30 years ago they had such a peaceful and non-wacist attitude and now these modern politics are just making them angwy!!!!! "

I apologise for the lack of aplomb and delivery which i normally have, i've just woken up and these comments required an immediate reply before anyone gets sucked into his bullshit.

@Pprt:

Your argument seems to be that if you dress up a tiger in a suit, cut its claws and teach it to purr...it's no longer a tiger.

I just think it's foolish to be angry and attack a symptom.

Wiser people see the illness.

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As a brit, this is scary, very scary indeed.

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