Canadian TV Show Destroys a Snake Oil Salesman

This is how every petty peddler such as this should be handled. Be Brutal!
nothingbotsays...

Props to the woman who took the time to read through the paper he supplied as 'research'. He gave her that as one piece of 'proof' and after flipping through the LARGE print pamphlet, she points out that "this isn't research". He responds with "I've got more!". More what, exactly? That's always the way, isn't it? I could prove it to you but I left the best proof at home. The dog ate my homework and I was soooo close to winning the lottery because my number was one higher than the winner.

westysays...

Well whats more bull shit is that they only give a dam when he says it cures cancer , because everyone gose mental over cancer up untill cancer its all la-di-da.

also he is only as much bull shit as religions but i bet they dont give a shit if a chirch person came in trying to sell some rleigouse thing or raising money for a lochal chirch that would be ok.

Bruti79says...

It's also illegal in Canada to say something can cure Cancer or Diabetes, without going through the proper medical procedures.

I'm sure he'll be getting a few phone calls soon =)

Shepppardsays...

>> ^westy:
Well whats more bull shit is that they only give a dam when he says it cures cancer , because everyone gose mental over cancer up untill cancer its all la-di-da.
also he is only as much bull shit as religions but i bet they dont give a shit if a chirch person came in trying to sell some rleigouse thing or raising money for a lochal chirch that would be ok.


They weren't going to back the product beforehand, you can see that all of them are giggling at how stupid the product is.

Claims such as "Pain from cuts goes away in less then a minute!" is stupid, because they usually do anyway.
He really is just selling water, and for minor things like that, it's no harm no foul, you spend 20 bucks, it's not a life altering situation. Refuse him nicely and leave him on his way.

However, once he started making claims like it was able to cure more terminal things like cancer, and he's been SELLING it as a remedy for cancer, then shit gets serious.

If people truly buy his product thinking that spraying it down your throat a couple times daily is going to cure their cancer, and do that rather then get a real form of treatment, then that man is selling people their death.

Draxsays...

The tension in the air actually changed when the guy said, "I think you're nice, blah blah but I'm out" and the sleaze guy then didn't take it gracefully, he came back with a stern, "Why?". That's when everyone stopped goofing off because the sales guy clearly isn't a good sport (and DOES seem kinda insane), then the cancer cure just tipped it over fully.

Porksandwichsays...

It bothers me to see people like this. You can't be quite sure if they are that delusional or pretending to be. Either way, the guy needs the authorities to take a good long look at him and his "business". Get him on the proper meds, or lock him up. Presuming he's Canadian, I would think the health care would be available to him.

Throbbinsays...

These guys are screened before they ever get on the show, so someone at CBC thought it would be a hoot to get him on the air. While I don't mind the dressing down they gave him, I think it's sad that even CBC - the holy grail of quality public broadcasting IMHO - would think to let this guy on the air, presumably for ratings.

All that aside, has anyone investigated the potential medicinal effects of silver? Reason says there's a 99% chance this guy is nuts. But anyone who has noticed the massive attention being paid to Vitamin D recently as the Vitamin that can cure anything in the 'Professional" medical community should also understand that if someone made those claims about Vitamin D 20 years ago, they'd be labelled a snake oil salesman too.

Maybe he's just ahead of his time. Still, you don't claim it cures cancer. Not cool.

randomizesays...

>> ^Throbbin:
These guys are screened before they ever get on the show, so someone at CBC thought it would be a hoot to get him on the air. While I don't mind the dressing down they gave him, I think it's sad that even CBC - the holy grail of quality public broadcasting IMHO - would think to let this guy on the air, presumably for ratings.


Well, being a CBC show, it likely needs all the ratings it can get.

westysays...

>> ^Shepppard:
>> ^westy:
Well whats more bull shit is that they only give a dam when he says it cures cancer , because everyone gose mental over cancer up untill cancer its all la-di-da.
also he is only as much bull shit as religions but i bet they dont give a shit if a chirch person came in trying to sell some rleigouse thing or raising money for a lochal chirch that would be ok.

They weren't going to back the product beforehand, you can see that all of them are giggling at how stupid the product is.
Claims such as "Pain from cuts goes away in less then a minute!" is stupid, because they usually do anyway.
He really is just selling water, and for minor things like that, it's no harm no foul, you spend 20 bucks, it's not a life altering situation. Refuse him nicely and leave him on his way.
However, once he started making claims like it was able to cure more terminal things like cancer, and he's been SELLING it as a remedy for cancer, then shit gets serious.
If people truly buy his product thinking that spraying it down your throat a couple times daily is going to cure their cancer, and do that rather then get a real form of treatment, then that man is selling people their death.



but ultimately its the same thing if your making a claim that something dose something which it dose not or you make a claim without any evidence. its just circumstance that it happens to bridge over to other things. besides at the start he says it cures everything.

Instantly from the offset if sum one makes a claim that seems out of the ordinary/remarkable then they are going to need good evidence to back it up i mean they obviously let him on the show in the first place so the TV producers wanted to out him and id be suprized if the investors didn't get any heads up at all.

Its really trendy for people on TV to get up tight and really reactive about cancer despite the fact that there are many other things to die from and illnesses that suck.

I dont evan see the need for them to get all emotive they should have just said right away , u dont have anny evidence good by

as i say i bet if they had a religious person come in that was selling christian stuff or pray materials then they would quite likely be fine with it.

westysays...

>> ^Throbbin:
These guys are screened before they ever get on the show, so someone at CBC thought it would be a hoot to get him on the air. While I don't mind the dressing down they gave him, I think it's sad that even CBC - the holy grail of quality public broadcasting IMHO - would think to let this guy on the air, presumably for ratings.
All that aside, has anyone investigated the potential medicinal effects of silver? Reason says there's a 99% chance this guy is nuts. But anyone who has noticed the massive attention being paid to Vitamin D recently as the Vitamin that can cure anything in the 'Professional" medical community should also understand that if someone made those claims about Vitamin D 20 years ago, they'd be labelled a snake oil salesman too.
Maybe he's just ahead of his time. Still, you don't claim it cures cancer. Not cool.


Yah silver Has gr8 potential as anti bacterial and When u combine small particles of silver in kitchen tops and work services / medical serfices it can have a real impact.

Silver is more of a preventative for anti bacterial its not a cure and I believe it only stops bacteria starting in a given place so if its already in a place and u pore silver on something its not going to make much difference.

Also interms of the human body we are dependent on bacteria so if u had a substance that nuked all the bacteria and u took it you would probably get very ill and die.


there is allso this new spray that is ment to come on the market in the next year or so that coats stuff in a thin film of glass but its such that bacteria or organic matter cannot stick to it so u could wipe stuff with water to make it mostly sterile. but again it wont cure people its just preventative making items esear to steralize.

Skeevesays...

Silver definitely has some medically useful effects, but nowhere near what this guy claims. In fact most heavy metals have an anti-biotic effect (called an oligodynamic effect). The reason why silver is used is because it is the least toxic to mammals. Specifically, silver ions irreversibly damage key enzyme systems in cells and in doing so kill most microorganisms. This is why you can find bandages and medical equipment that incorporates silver.

Colloidal solutions of silver, what this guy is selling, have never demonstrated the proposed curative effects in clinical studies, and have actually resulted in toxicity in a number of cases. There is no evidence that silver does anything medically except kill things (including the people who take it in large enough doses).

>> ^Throbbin:
All that aside, has anyone investigated the potential medicinal effects of silver? Reason says there's a 99% chance this guy is nuts. But anyone who has noticed the massive attention being paid to Vitamin D recently as the Vitamin that can cure anything in the 'Professional" medical community should also understand that if someone made those claims about Vitamin D 20 years ago, they'd be labelled a snake oil salesman too.

Shepppardsays...

@westy:

It started off just as fun. It's a silly product and they treated it as such, he said it cures everything, but he hadn't mentioned anything serious.

"It cures hepatitis" some forms of hepatitis can heal themselves naturally.
"It cures arthritis" you know what else can cure arthritis? Exercising the affected area.
"It cures flu's including 'H1N1" a flu bug is gone generally in two days, water isn't going to help.
"It cures pinkeye in two days" Pinkeye is usually gone after 2-3 days.
"It cures heartburn, swallow it down, within a few seconds heartburn is gone" Heartburn is caused by gastric acid going back up the esophagus, any liquid is going to relieve heartburn temporarily.

All of this is stupid stuff, they don't NEED to get upset at this point because all he's doing is selling expensive water. At this point, he's not doing anything wrong but swindling a few people out of their money if they're silly enough to believe him. They tell him so, and ask him to be on his way, they're obviously not backing his product.

Once he says that it's able to cure cancer, it's a whole different story. Cancer treatments can be a variety of things, distilled water is not one of them. People with terminal cancer can be so desperate for a better cure they'll believe people like this, and buy from him instead of getting a REAL cure, some may even take themselves off things like Kemo in lieu of this, and that's basically just signing their death warrent.

It doesn't necessarily have to be cancer, any terminal illness would have upset them. Anybody who profits on selling false hope to others is a disgrace, and should be treated as such, as he was.

Now, as for "Selling religious things", where's the harm in that? As long as they're not selling holy water that cures cancer, all they're doing is selling a book, or a cross.

spawnflaggersays...

I like how they all took bottles of "mystery liquid" from "crazy guy" and just started spraying themselves and each other. who knows wtf could have been in there?

Yes, it cures cancer! (side effect: you die from ebola first)

Deanosays...

Totally agree, why on earth give a nut like this a platform? Sure he looks ridiculous but he's ridiculous before he gets there. Will it stop him suckering people? Sadly I don't think so.

>> ^Throbbin:
These guys are screened before they ever get on the show, so someone at CBC thought it would be a hoot to get him on the air. While I don't mind the dressing down they gave him, I think it's sad that even CBC - the holy grail of quality public broadcasting IMHO - would think to let this guy on the air, presumably for ratings.

Heartsparksays...

The government should make examples out of people like this and just give them mandatory 1 year sentences or first offense. If they don't get it by them, they are prohibited from starting a business of any kind, ever.

Kruposays...

>> ^Throbbin:
These guys are screened before they ever get on the show, so someone at CBC thought it would be a hoot to get him on the air. While I don't mind the dressing down they gave him, I think it's sad that even CBC - the holy grail of quality public broadcasting IMHO - would think to let this guy on the air, presumably for ratings.
All that aside, has anyone investigated the potential medicinal effects of silver? Reason says there's a 99% chance this guy is nuts. But anyone who has noticed the massive attention being paid to Vitamin D recently as the Vitamin that can cure anything in the 'Professional" medical community should also understand that if someone made those claims about Vitamin D 20 years ago, they'd be labelled a snake oil salesman too.
Maybe he's just ahead of his time. Still, you don't claim it cures cancer. Not cool.


Perhaps they expected half the crazy, not the full crazy he ended up delivering? I think it's ok to occasionally point out to the naive that "this is crazy" in case people aren't realizing it. Psuedo-educational.

HenningKOsays...

And then there was the example of blueberry man from a year ago. That was colloidal silver.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa2OpNTX9Ck

>> ^Skeeve:

Colloidal solutions of silver, what this guy is selling, have never demonstrated the proposed curative effects in clinical studies, and have actually resulted in toxicity in a number of cases. There is no evidence that silver does anything medically except kill things (including the people who take it in large enough doses).

Mazexsays...

I thought they were quite mean, the guy was polite enough. And if people are stupid enough to buy it then its their own stupid fault, I'm happy for stupid people to waste their money. I mean that's the basis of all products, there aren't many that really improve your life, they mostly cater to greed for you to buy them. So what's the difference. Plus if they take and think they can get better, some will probably get better from the placebo effect anyway.

KnivesOutsays...

@Mazex: Your mother is spending her social security on bottles of water, instead of the actual medication she needs. How does that make you feel? Is it "all her fault"? Does she deserve to be taken advantage of because she's dumb enough to waste her money on water?

siftbotsays...

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