After Bullied Kid Suicides, Teens Rejoice His Death At Dance

One of the kids in the 'it gets better' youtube campaign suicides. But that's not the end of it, as his school chums chant "You're better off dead" at a memorial dance at his school. September 2011.
dystopianfuturetodaysays...

To those on this site that like to throw around 'fag' and 'gay' in a derogatory manner, maybe it's time to grow up a little. Even if you don't mean any harm, you still contribute to the kind of ignorant American culture that causes things like this to happen. Stop it.

gorillamansays...

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

To those on this site that like to throw around 'fag' and 'gay' in a derogatory manner, maybe it's time to grow up a little. Even if you don't mean any harm, you still contribute to the kind of ignorant American culture that causes things like this to happen. Stop it.

Horseshit. Maybe don't exploit the death of a child to push your suppressive ideology.

luxury_piesays...

>> ^gorillaman:

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
To those on this site that like to throw around 'fag' and 'gay' in a derogatory manner, maybe it's time to grow up a little. Even if you don't mean any harm, you still contribute to the kind of ignorant American culture that causes things like this to happen. Stop it.

Horseshit. Maybe don't exploit the death of a child to push your suppressive ideology.

What you may call "suppresive ideology" others happen to call manners and reason.
You should think about that IMO.

krelokksays...

>> ^gorillaman:

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
To those on this site that like to throw around 'fag' and 'gay' in a derogatory manner, maybe it's time to grow up a little. Even if you don't mean any harm, you still contribute to the kind of ignorant American culture that causes things like this to happen. Stop it.

Horseshit. Maybe don't exploit the death of a child to push your suppressive ideology.



>> ^gorillaman:

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
To those on this site that like to throw around 'fag' and 'gay' in a derogatory manner, maybe it's time to grow up a little. Even if you don't mean any harm, you still contribute to the kind of ignorant American culture that causes things like this to happen. Stop it.

Horseshit. Maybe don't exploit the death of a child to push your suppressive ideology.


WOW HAHAHAHA I point at you and laugh. Yes because telling people to stop casually spewing out hate words is 'suppressive ideology'. Yes I suppose if this is OPPOSITE WORLD, and wanting to make the planet a little more accepting and tolerant is 'suppressive ideology'. hahahha There is no exploiting the child's death here, which is a hilarious deflection tactic to divert attention from a very VALID and pertinent point about stopping the use of hate words.

Those that can't give up on calling people 'fag' and 'gay' or 'pussy', or similar words are perpetuating suppression against those groups. Those are suppressive words and used in a negative manner. The people telling you to stop being ignorant and become a little more socially aware aren't 'suppressing' you, they are informing you of your ignorance that you need to do something about. That isn't fun to be told, so it is understandable that people lash back, wanting to defend their use of such words. Those words are used to imply that being a 'fag' or 'gay' or a 'pussy' is a bad thing. Fag is used as a hate word. And there is nothing wrong with being gay, and pussies, as in vaginas, are great. I love them. I never insult the pussy. mmmmm pussy. There isn't anything wrong with having a pussy, and nothing wrong with being female.

I always laugh at the completely average, run of the mill, scared to think 'outside the box' of their ignorant social groups/unbringing, people I've met who simply can't NOT say those words. It is laughable. And even when they are informed what these worlds do, how hurtful they can be, how ignorant and stupid they appear/are for using such words, they STILL insist on saying them because it makes them neurologically comfortable.

Go call a bunch of black guys 'nigger' and tell us how they suppressed you when told you to shut your ignorant face. Or of course you could always continue to parade your ignorance to the world rather then do something about it.

Aniatariosays...

Ugh, these stories just make me so god damned angry. What the hell is wrong with people? Every one of those kids should carry their disgrace for the rest of their lives. Most of them wont, I can only pray that when they're a little older and a little wiser they'll realize that this boy's blood is on their hands, and that no number of prayers will ever wash it off.

ponceleonsays...

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

To those on this site that like to throw around 'fag' and 'gay' in a derogatory manner, maybe it's time to grow up a little. Even if you don't mean any harm, you still contribute to the kind of ignorant American culture that causes things like this to happen. Stop it.


I can definitely appreciate what you are saying, I do not use those terms (or exceptionally rarely), but I think it is a bit more complicated than just "thou shall not say."

Dan Savage's take on it was really interesting and thought provoking: http://videosift.com/video/Dan-Savage-Is-It-Bad-To-Say-That-s-Gay-and-Faggot

chinese_rocknrollsays...

>> ^gorillaman:
Horseshit. Maybe don't exploit the death of a child to push your suppressive ideology.

As someone already pointed out above, there is a huge difference between having your speech suppressed, and being called out for being a jerk when you say something a jerk would say.

No one is suppressing anyone's right to use "gay" and "fag" as pejoratives. Go ahead, knock yourself out. Depending on the community in which you use them, you might even be praised for it (like, say, Xbox Live, or a KKK rally). But out in the world there are a lot of people who think those words, used in that way, are just not cool. To whine about your free speech being suppressed because someone had the audacity to present some social pushback for using rude epithets is just silly.

So you have a choice. You can insulate yourself further so the only people around you are those who will appreciate "gay" and "fag" slurs being tossed around. Or you can accept that not everyone is going to like that, and that your use of language has consequences.

Yogisays...

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

To those on this site that like to throw around 'fag' and 'gay' in a derogatory manner, maybe it's time to grow up a little. Even if you don't mean any harm, you still contribute to the kind of ignorant American culture that causes things like this to happen. Stop it.


Louis CK on the word Faggot.

Top comment on the video.

"Dude, I'm gay, I don't give a shit. It's a word. Get over it, faggots."

Jinxsays...

Too fucking sad.

As for using faggot. I'm torn on it. I'm not sure the benefits of having it as part of my vocabulary actually outweigh the chance I offend or hurt somebody. You might say its their fault they are offended, but if you've spent a fair amount of your life having the word faggot thrown at you with hateful intent then I'd say its their right to be offended whether you really intend to offend them or not. After all the word does reference the burning of homosexuals alive.

I'm also torn on whether we should really use words to such an extent that they lose all meaning. Faggot is a pretty horrid word and you might say its a good thing for its meaning to be diluted, but perhaps we should preserve its power, no matter how distasteful, as a reminder if nothing else of the history of hate directed at homosexuality. I have much the same opinion of the word nigger.

Personally I am making an effort to cut these words out of my vocab.

hpqpsays...

@gorillaman

You know who else feels "suppressed"? Bigots:


Sotto_Vocesays...

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
To those on this site that like to throw around 'fag' and 'gay' in a derogatory manner, maybe it's time to grow up a little. Even if you don't mean any harm, you still contribute to the kind of ignorant American culture that causes things like this to happen. Stop it.

Louis CK on the word Faggot.
Top comment on the video.
"Dude, I'm gay, I don't give a shit. It's a word. Get over it, faggots."


Better Louis CK bit on the word "faggot"
.

"You might wanna know that every gay man in America has probably had that word shouted at them while they’re being beaten up, sometimes many times, sometimes by a lot of people all at once. So, when you say it, it kind of brings that all back up. But, you know, by all means, use it. Get your laughs. But, you know, now you know what it means."

Yogisays...

>> ^chinese_rocknroll:

>> ^gorillaman:
Horseshit. Maybe don't exploit the death of a child to push your suppressive ideology.
As someone already pointed out above, there is a huge difference between having your speech suppressed, and being called out for being a jerk when you say something a jerk would say.
No one is suppressing anyone's right to use "gay" and "fag" as pejoratives. Go ahead, knock yourself out. Depending on the community in which you use them, you might even be praised for it (like, say, Xbox Live, or a KKK rally). But out in the world there are a lot of people who think those words, used in that way, are just not cool. To whine about your free speech being suppressed because someone had the audacity to present some social pushback for using rude epithets is just silly.
So you have a choice. You can insulate yourself further so the only people around you are those who will appreciate "gay" and "fag" slurs being tossed around. Or you can accept that not everyone is going to like that, and that your use of language has consequences.


A user didn't say "Oh you're a jerk if you say gay or faggot" he called on us to stop it and then he threatened me personally. So I'll whine about free speech when I'm threatened...cause he knows what he did.

Yogisays...

>> ^Sotto_Voce:

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
To those on this site that like to throw around 'fag' and 'gay' in a derogatory manner, maybe it's time to grow up a little. Even if you don't mean any harm, you still contribute to the kind of ignorant American culture that causes things like this to happen. Stop it.

Louis CK on the word Faggot.
Top comment on the video.
"Dude, I'm gay, I don't give a shit. It's a word. Get over it, faggots."


Better Louis CK bit on the word "faggot"
.
"You might wanna know that every gay man in America has probably had that word shouted at them while they’re being beaten up, sometimes many times, sometimes by a lot of people all at once. So, when you say it, it kind of brings that all back up. But, you know, by all means, use it. Get your laughs. But, you know, now you know what it means."


Really? Where was I when EVERY GAY MAN IN AMERICA was being beaten up while "FAGGOT" was being shouted at them? Sorry but this just isn't fucking true. Yes some gay people are beaten and while they are beaten some are called faggots. Don't try to use emotional blackmail to win your argument though, I didn't beat anyone. I correctly called someone who's being a "faggot," who may or may not be gay, a "faggot."

And why...because Louis CK is Funnier than you...and so am I and that makes us right.

Sotto_Vocesays...

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^Sotto_Voce:
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
To those on this site that like to throw around 'fag' and 'gay' in a derogatory manner, maybe it's time to grow up a little. Even if you don't mean any harm, you still contribute to the kind of ignorant American culture that causes things like this to happen. Stop it.

Louis CK on the word Faggot.
Top comment on the video.
"Dude, I'm gay, I don't give a shit. It's a word. Get over it, faggots."


Better Louis CK bit on the word "faggot"
.
"You might wanna know that every gay man in America has probably had that word shouted at them while they’re being beaten up, sometimes many times, sometimes by a lot of people all at once. So, when you say it, it kind of brings that all back up. But, you know, by all means, use it. Get your laughs. But, you know, now you know what it means."

Really? Where was I when EVERY GAY MAN IN AMERICA was being beaten up while "FAGGOT" was being shouted at them? Sorry but this just isn't fucking true. Yes some gay people are beaten and while they are beaten some are called faggots. Don't try to use emotional blackmail to win your argument though, I didn't beat anyone. I correctly called someone who's being a "faggot," who may or may not be gay, a "faggot."
And why...because Louis CK is Funnier than you...and so am I and that makes us right.


Um... that is a quote from the clip I posted. A quote written by Louis CK. I recognize that not every gay man in America is beaten. I'm sure Louis recognizes that too. Sometimes hyperbole is used for effect, and most sensible people realize its not meant to be taken literally.

Yogisays...

Ok just because I like to rip off bandaids and rub nails into them. I'm wondering everyones opinion on someone who commits suicide as a way out? Now if they're a kid they don't have the same judgement as a teen or an adult sooo I'm not having a go at them.

However I think I would be a lot more concerned if say this kid was beaten to death...I'd want people to hang. Rather than he was picked on to the point where he felt he needed to end it all. Where were the parents in that scenario?

I guess it's my callous attitude but simply put if you want to commit suicide (if you're of age and sound mind) that's pretty much on you. If you're a teen you can GO to someone and TELL them what's going on. Parents, teachers anyone. When you're a kid you're more alone but you parents should maybe notice a change in attitude or something.

I don't know just some thoughts.

MaxWildersays...

Look, it's your choice.

You can use grown up words to express yourself, and other grown up people will respect that.

Or you can spew ignorance from your dirty blow-hole like an inbred 12 year old, and the grown-ups who hear you will dismiss you as a waste of oxygen who will never amount to anything of any importance except for when you knock up your cousin and spawn some duplicates of your diseased and ill-formed brain.

Choose your own adventure, kid.

Yogisays...

>> ^MaxWilder:

Look, it's your choice.
You can use grown up words to express yourself, and other grown up people will respect that.
Or you can spew ignorance from your dirty blow-hole like an inbred 12 year old, and the grown-ups who hear you will dismiss you as a waste of oxygen who will never amount to anything of any importance except for when you knock up your cousin and spawn some duplicates of your diseased and ill-formed brain.
Choose your own adventure, kid.


I assume you're talking to me in which case I'll explain that you don't know me.

MaxWildersays...

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^MaxWilder:
Look, it's your choice.
You can use grown up words to express yourself, and other grown up people will respect that.
Or you can spew ignorance from your dirty blow-hole like an inbred 12 year old, and the grown-ups who hear you will dismiss you as a waste of oxygen who will never amount to anything of any importance except for when you knock up your cousin and spawn some duplicates of your diseased and ill-formed brain.
Choose your own adventure, kid.

I assume you're talking to me in which case I'll explain that you don't know me.


I wasn't talking to you specifically, but that's besides the point. Do you want mature people to respect what you are saying? Then use mature language. I don't have to "know you" in order to dismiss you as immature, ignorant, and inconsequential if I hear (or read) slurs based on gender, ethnicity, or sexual preference.

Yogisays...

>> ^MaxWilder:

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^MaxWilder:
Look, it's your choice.
You can use grown up words to express yourself, and other grown up people will respect that.
Or you can spew ignorance from your dirty blow-hole like an inbred 12 year old, and the grown-ups who hear you will dismiss you as a waste of oxygen who will never amount to anything of any importance except for when you knock up your cousin and spawn some duplicates of your diseased and ill-formed brain.
Choose your own adventure, kid.

I assume you're talking to me in which case I'll explain that you don't know me.

I wasn't talking to you specifically, but that's besides the point. Do you want mature people to respect what you are saying? Then use mature language. I don't have to "know you" in order to dismiss you as immature, ignorant, and inconsequential if I hear (or read) slurs based on gender, ethnicity, or sexual preference.


So you're saying that swearing or taboo words make people think that I am somehow ignorant or inconsequential?

That's bullshit. Stephen Fry pointed that out as well, some of the smartest most educated people he's ever known swear all the time. Dan Savage uses "faggot" he's definitely smart and respected. Louis CK uses faggot in his act all the time...he's obviously a very good writer.

I'm sorry I just do not fucking agree with you, based on these examples. If you want to dismiss me as immature or ignorant fine...the likes of Stephen Fry, Louis CK, and Dan Savage won't and that's just fine by me.

rottenseedsays...

you're all a bunch of faggy gay fags faggin' it up....so go fag yourselves until gay comes out of your fagholes.

CENSORSHIP IS THE ROOT OF THE WORDS THAT ENSLAVE US YOU DUMB CUNTS!

ChaosEnginesays...

Ah yes, we can't have a nuanced approach to anything can we?

All we can have are two camps screaming at each other across a divide.
"You can't use faggot!! Ever!!"
"Fuck you! stop oppressing my right to be a dick!"

The word faggot actually means a bundle of twigs. That's it, no more no less.

Context is everything. I will frequently describe things as "gay". It's not grown-up or mature, but I don't particularly want to spend my life being grown-up and mature all the time.

Now, there's a world of difference between me calling a friend "gay" when he pussies out of something (yeah, that term too*), and holding up a sign that says "god hates fags". One is affectionate (not that affectionate! ), the other is hateful.

"Cunt" is considered just about the most pejorative term in the english language, but it's frequently used a term of endearment where I grew up (west of ireland, we swear. a lot.) See black guys calling each other nigger.

Again, context. I would never call someone I didn't know a "cunt" or a "fag" as an insult, and if I saw someone doing it, I'd call them on it.

* if I can use "cock" as a swear, I fail to see why I can't use "pussy".

hpqpsays...

How many times does it need to be said: it is not about the words themselves but the way in which they are used. Hey, "Jude" just means "Jew" in German, but depending on how it was used in mid-20th century Europe it could mean life or death (yes, I totally went there).

I find it sad - and perhaps a little worrisome - that @dystopianfuturetoday's comment is seen by some as expressing the wish to suppress freedom of speech. Watching one's words in context is not censorship or "oppression", it's a sign of intelligence and responsibility. While I am completely free to comment on a criminal act as "typical of niggers", refer to a miser as being "such a Jew", or call a woman who has had several partners a "slut/whore", it would only illustrate stupidity and narrowmindedness on my part, while continuing to keep alive ethnic/sexist stereotypes.

Personally, I try to keep my expletives universal. Asshole, shithead, dumbfuck, peabrain, bigot, religitard, idiot, etc.

Yogisays...

>> ^hpqp:

How many times does it need to be said: it is not about the words themselves but the way in which they are used. Hey, "Jude" just means "Jew" in German, but depending on how it was used in mid-20th century Europe it could mean life or death (yes, I totally went there).
I find it sad - and perhaps a little worrisome - that @dystopianfuturetoday's comment is seen by some as expressing the wish to suppress freedom of speech. Watching one's words in context is not censorship or "oppression", it's a sign of intelligence and responsibility. While I am completely free to comment on a criminal act as "typical of niggers", refer to a miser as being "such a Jew", or call a woman who has had several partners a "slut/whore", it would only illustrate stupidity and narrowmindedness on my part, while continuing to keep alive ethnic/sexist stereotypes.
Personally, I try to keep my expletives universal. Asshole, shithead, dumbfuck, peabrain, bigot, religitard, idiot, etc.


Just pointing out...I never really thought it was suppressing my freedom of speech I just think it's one of those platitudes that sounds nice and then falls kinda flat because the world is shades of grey.

critical_dsays...

A boy killed himself because he was sick of being bullied. I know how he felt. I really do.

It's funny to think back on what kept me from going over the edge....what kept me in this world.

It's so, so sad to think that this kid didn't have that. Or maybe it wasn't enough anymore.


Yogisays...

>> ^critical_d:

A boy killed himself because he was sick of being bullied. I know how he felt. I really do.
It's funny to think back on what kept me from going over the edge....what kept me in this world.
It's so, so sad to think that this kid didn't have that. Or maybe it wasn't enough anymore.



It's very sad if you care about life at all. I choose to react angrily at those who could've noticed this sort of thing if they WOKE THE FUCK UP.

I don't expect a child to be able to come to a grownup with his problems...I expect a grownup either at the school or his parents to notice this shit. It takes a fucking village people!

ForgedRealitysays...

HAAHH!! I'm sorry but Lady Gaga, you're a fucking idiot. Disgustingly sad he killed himself, but holy shit "bullying has got to become illegal?!" Seriously? That's wrong on so many levels.

rottenseedsays...

So we've got false cause, and good ol' fashioned "eye-for-an-eye". A human can't even take his own life without people flinging shit in his name before he's 6 feet under. I have a suggestion: stop talking for others. Especially for groups you're not a part of. You're not even fucking gay...oops, I mean homosexual...oh wait, I wasn't using it in a derogatory manner...but I did say "fucking" before "gay"...oh wait WHAT I HAVE TO SAY HAS NO BEARING OVER A SOMEBODY FILLED WITH HATE AND IGNORANCE! Because to somebody like that, I "ain't nothin but no queer lover" anyway.>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

To those on this site that like to throw around 'fag' and 'gay' in a derogatory manner, maybe it's time to grow up a little. Even if you don't mean any harm, you still contribute to the kind of ignorant American culture that causes things like this to happen. Stop it.


>> ^Issykitty:

I am not a fervent supporter of the death penalty, but I really wish that for these special kind of scum-of-the-earth bullies. Surely they wouldn't be missed.

MaxWildersays...

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^MaxWilder:
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^MaxWilder:
Look, it's your choice.
You can use grown up words to express yourself, and other grown up people will respect that.
Or you can spew ignorance from your dirty blow-hole like an inbred 12 year old, and the grown-ups who hear you will dismiss you as a waste of oxygen who will never amount to anything of any importance except for when you knock up your cousin and spawn some duplicates of your diseased and ill-formed brain.
Choose your own adventure, kid.

I assume you're talking to me in which case I'll explain that you don't know me.

I wasn't talking to you specifically, but that's besides the point. Do you want mature people to respect what you are saying? Then use mature language. I don't have to "know you" in order to dismiss you as immature, ignorant, and inconsequential if I hear (or read) slurs based on gender, ethnicity, or sexual preference.

So you're saying that swearing or taboo words make people think that I am somehow ignorant or inconsequential?
That's bullshit. Stephen Fry pointed that out as well, some of the smartest most educated people he's ever known swear all the time. Dan Savage uses "faggot" he's definitely smart and respected. Louis CK uses faggot in his act all the time...he's obviously a very good writer.
I'm sorry I just do not fucking agree with you, based on these examples. If you want to dismiss me as immature or ignorant fine...the likes of Stephen Fry, Louis CK, and Dan Savage won't and that's just fine by me.


I never said anything about swearing in general, though that is closely related. I'm saying that how you use words reveals things about yourself, and you will be judged accordingly. As others have mentioned, context is essential. Of course I can't claim to have seen everything they have ever said, but I will bet dollars to donuts that Dan Savage and Stephen Fry have never uttered the word "faggot" as an intentional slur against another person. They would use it tongue in cheek, or as satire targeted at people who use it as a slur. And if Louis CK uses it as a slur, then yes, my opinion of him will drop several points. But I would have to see it in context. As for other types of swearing, if you swear occasionally to emphasize a point, it can be very effective. But if you're dropping the f-bomb every other word, it ceases to become a bomb and starts to become a sign that you're an idiot.

But I think you know what I'm saying and are intentionally being argumentative. So this is my final statement on the subject: Human beings are constantly judging each other. It's in our nature. One of the things that we judge is the maturity level of a person's discourse. The use of slurs based on gender, ethnicity, and sexual preference is rapidly becoming the realm of ignorant, backward, irrelevant people. Are there exceptions? Probably. Should you count on people making an exception for you? Not if you're smart. You can argue that there are powerful and important people who still use these kinds of slurs, but most people will not think of those exceptions when they hear you talk. They will be thinking instead of the 12 year old moron anonymously shouting bile into his xbox, or these horrible children celebrating the death of an innocent boy. It is your choice how you wish to present yourself to the world, so don't try to convince me that you should be allowed to spew hatred without repercussions. That won't get you anywhere.

dannym3141says...

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

Sooo angsty. Sooo ineffectual in your humanity.
It's okay. We'll all make a deal when you commit suicide too (hopefully). = ]
>> ^gorillaman:
Why not just blame rock music and violent videogames?



What a fucking fantastic thing to comment on a video about a kid being bullied into suicide.

holymackerel013says...

This tears my heart out. I was no monster, but I did my share of ignorant bullying in high school. I'm in my 30's now and I have contacted every one of them via peer networks and apologized for my ignorance; however, I learned that one girl that me and some friends picked on has killed herself after she caught her husband cheating on her. In a strange twist of fate, the woman I've been married to for 17 years now is a good friend with this girl's sister and her parents. I was able to apologize to her parents. They assured me that I had nothing to do with her suicide, but I don't care. I certainly didn't help her situation. I live with guilt every day of my life, and I am so sorry for being so wrong back then. I became a psychiatric tech in the 90's and I work with people who suffer from depression and other psychiatric disorders everyday when I go to work. I hope to help heal as many people as possible after causing those few people so much hurt.

bcglorfsays...

Let this stand as exhibit number 205,658 that our species is not naturally kind or co-operative. For every good and decent kid, there are 2 that are brutal, cruel and vindictive just because it makes them feel better. The stats aren't much better for adults...

Issykittysays...

I was speaking for myself out of anger,@rottenseed you dipshit. Who else am I speaking for??? You don't even make any fucking sense.

"So we've got false cause, and good ol' fashioned "eye-for-an-eye". A human can't even take his own life without people flinging shit in his name before he's 6 feet under. I have a suggestion: stop talking for others. Especially for groups you're not a part of. You're not even fucking gay...oops, I mean homosexual...oh wait, I wasn't using it in a derogatory manner...but I did say "fucking" before "gay"...oh wait WHAT I HAVE TO SAY HAS NO BEARING OVER A SOMEBODY FILLED WITH HATE AND IGNORANCE! Because to somebody like that, I "ain't nothin but no queer lover" anyway."

Paybacksays...

>> ^gorillaman:

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
To those on this site that like to throw around 'fag' and 'gay' in a derogatory manner, maybe it's time to grow up a little. Even if you don't mean any harm, you still contribute to the kind of ignorant American culture that causes things like this to happen. Stop it.

Horseshit. Maybe don't exploit the death of a child to push your suppressive ideology.


Rupert Murdoch and Fox News prove every day that freedom of speech does not survive private media censorship. How about acting at them for suppressing proven facts instead of someone on some forum somewhere speaking their mind just because you disagree? If you like calling people fag and gay, go ahead. Just makes you look retardeddevelopmentally delayed.

rottenseedsays...

You're not speaking for somebody else so much as your hubby is. Don't get sassy now...there are dipshits out there that don't like when you use the term "dipshit" in a derogatory manner. Also people that speak gibberish don't like when you talk about people not making sense as if it were a bad thing. Shame shame>> ^Issykitty:

I was speaking for myself out of anger,@rottenseed you dipshit. Who else am I speaking for??? You don't even make any fucking sense.
"So we've got false cause, and good ol' fashioned "eye-for-an-eye". A human can't even take his own life without people flinging shit in his name before he's 6 feet under. I have a suggestion: stop talking for others. Especially for groups you're not a part of. You're not even fucking gay...oops, I mean homosexual...oh wait, I wasn't using it in a derogatory manner...but I did say "fucking" before "gay"...oh wait WHAT I HAVE TO SAY HAS NO BEARING OVER A SOMEBODY FILLED WITH HATE AND IGNORANCE! Because to somebody like that, I "ain't nothin but no queer lover" anyway."

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