I promise she's not drunk

*notdead

considering your "goodbye" in my blog, none of your attitude surprises me nor makes me want to come back. Yall have fun.
In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
Wow, hey, it was a simple light-hearted comment saying that I was amaze to see you back, because you looked pretty pissed when you left. I was expecting a "well, I cooled down a bit. How have you been" kind of a response. But no, instead I get that filth. So fuck you and good riddance.

In reply to this comment by smibbo:
oooo! you sure smacked me down. Said I was done. Its a website, sparky, I am free to come and look at it any time I want. Although, I guess my suspicions about the elite crew might be true? After all, with a response like yours, I just can't wait to come back and bang my head against the brick wall of the "chosen few" clubhouse wall some more. Uh, thanks but no thanks.

I got notification that my favoritest video had a comment, I looked and saw there was a dupe. So I took 30 seconds out of my life to do the right thing. Big fucking deal.

In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
I thought you left?

In reply to this comment by smibbo:
this is a dupe

http://www.videosift.com/video/Dancing-on-train-Bollywood-style-from-movie-DIL-SE

and yes, two people fell off the train making this segment. They died.

*discard

oooo! you sure smacked me down. Said I was done. Its a website, sparky, I am free to come and look at it any time I want. Although, I guess my suspicions about the elite crew might be true? After all, with a response like yours, I just can't wait to come back and bang my head against the brick wall of the "chosen few" clubhouse wall some more. Uh, thanks but no thanks.

I got notification that my favoritest video had a comment, I looked and saw there was a dupe. So I took 30 seconds out of my life to do the right thing. Big fucking deal.

In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
I thought you left?

In reply to this comment by smibbo:
this is a dupe

http://www.videosift.com/video/Dancing-on-train-Bollywood-style-from-movie-DIL-SE

and yes, two people fell off the train making this segment. They died.

*discard

this is a dupe

http://www.videosift.com/video/Dancing-on-train-Bollywood-style-from-movie-DIL-SE

and yes, two people fell off the train making this segment. They died.

*discard

Whenever you have a discussion with someone, you should ask yourself if you're in it to get your point understood, "win" or just rant. Generally speaking, I like to get my point understood. I feel I have done so in this discussion but you just want to rant. Rant away.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
you're saying my point isn't worth discussing, and yet you keep coming back to discuss it.

you say these "empirical trends are to be expected". Well, cool, we agree. Nations turn into empires (if they're lucky) and then try to dominate other countries unfairly, eventually causing their own destruction with their arrogance.

Which is exactly what America is doing.

In the context of millions of americans supporting this self destruction, voting for leaders that continue it, and denying that there is a problem, i think my point is relevant.

Seeing as america was founded with a very definite aim to avoid monarchy and empire, it is especially ironic (in the case of america) that she has formed basically a shared monarchy and an empire. Other countries at least admitted what they were doing (British EMPIRE the clue is in the title). America came along as the bright new hope, with a great constitution, but then over time reverted to the traditional "Leader is the decider and we need to preemptively attack other countries" system.

if you don't think it is relevant, silence might be a more appropriate response.

If you are "defending america" then i wonder... why?

And by the way, in case you are assuming this is some kind of transatlantic rivalry thing, i fucking hate Britain too.

In reply to this comment by smibbo:
Exactly; your point that America "developed" the bad characteristics they wanted to get away from is debatable in the context of time. Being as empires rise and fall and usually in similar ways, the "decline" of America may or may not have anything to do with its attitude. Being as its been over 200 years since its inception, any movement that reflects typical "empirical" trends is to be expected. Paint it "u terbul amerikkans" if it makes you feel all warm and squishy or perhaps you prefer snide and hopeless? Whatever. I was only saying that implying America has pagentry and "royalty" because its somehow tainted with nasty ickyness in its deep-rooted culture is kind of silly. America is over 200 years old, its bound to have similiarity with many older cultures. Big Fucking Deal. Why not discuss cultural problems that are a direct result of the people?

In reply to this comment by MINK:
"debatable" ?
you can go and debate the theory that empires rise and fall, in cycles spanning hundreds of years, with any historian you like, and see what they tell you.


In reply to this comment by smibbo:
eventually developed the bad characteristics of that which it replaced.

uh, more than 200 years later. Considering context of time, I think your point is a bit errant and very debatable.
what July 4th stands for is independance from the British. That's it. Any other meaning is personal. If you want to romanticize American independance just so you can bemoan its dilution... have fun.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
I never said "Americans" hate "The British".
I suggested the founding fathers hated the way the british ran the colonies and founded a nation of their own, that eventually developed the bad characteristics of that which it replaced.

Americans aren't big on subtlety? So now I have to adjust every post on the internet to take this into account?

Every country has "royalty" and propaganda parades... and yes it is shameful, especially in the context of 4th July and everything the young america was supposed to stand for.

Hope that clears things up for you.


In reply to this comment by smibbo:
1) We Americans do not hate the british. I don't think you know much American history.
2) What is this video supposed to "show"? If you've got something to say, spit it out. Most Americans aren't real big on subtlety.
3) Every country has its "royalty" regardless of their title. People like a bit of pagentry. Is that supposed to be shameful?

let me ask you this dag, here on v9deosift, does anyone bitch about any other country? (teasing MINK excluded) does anyone ever say anything critical or even informational about any other country?

interesting that this site is for english speakers, has overwhelmingly american vids on it but all anyone will criticize is america.

In reply to this comment by dag:
I think there's hypocracy all around. I'm huge consumer of American culture - and yet I never miss a chance to lambast my country for its shortcomings.

At the same time I do get a bit shirty when I hear Australians go off on the father land. Like the culture here is that much different. Australians are just as ugly abroad as Americans. Beer swilling provincial louts in many cases.

wow, MINK, you really got a hate-on for the USA.

In fact, here's a hint: it's "discussions" like yours (AKA spiritual verbal abuse) which creates backlash. I've no interest in that. You make some interestin points I agree with and some points I'd be willing to discuss. "America Sucks Because the American People Suck" is not one of those points.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
you're saying my point isn't worth discussing, and yet you keep coming back to discuss it.

you say these "empirical trends are to be expected". Well, cool, we agree. Nations turn into empires (if they're lucky) and then try to dominate other countries unfairly, eventually causing their own destruction with their arrogance.

Which is exactly what America is doing.

In the context of millions of americans supporting this self destruction, voting for leaders that continue it, and denying that there is a problem, i think my point is relevant.

Seeing as america was founded with a very definite aim to avoid monarchy and empire, it is especially ironic (in the case of america) that she has formed basically a shared monarchy and an empire. Other countries at least admitted what they were doing (British EMPIRE the clue is in the title). America came along as the bright new hope, with a great constitution, but then over time reverted to the traditional "Leader is the decider and we need to preemptively attack other countries" system.

if you don't think it is relevant, silence might be a more appropriate response.

If you are "defending america" then i wonder... why?

And by the way, in case you are assuming this is some kind of transatlantic rivalry thing, i fucking hate Britain too.

In reply to this comment by smibbo:
Exactly; your point that America "developed" the bad characteristics they wanted to get away from is debatable in the context of time. Being as empires rise and fall and usually in similar ways, the "decline" of America may or may not have anything to do with its attitude. Being as its been over 200 years since its inception, any movement that reflects typical "empirical" trends is to be expected. Paint it "u terbul amerikkans" if it makes you feel all warm and squishy or perhaps you prefer snide and hopeless? Whatever. I was only saying that implying America has pagentry and "royalty" because its somehow tainted with nasty ickyness in its deep-rooted culture is kind of silly. America is over 200 years old, its bound to have similiarity with many older cultures. Big Fucking Deal. Why not discuss cultural problems that are a direct result of the people?

In reply to this comment by MINK:
"debatable" ?
you can go and debate the theory that empires rise and fall, in cycles spanning hundreds of years, with any historian you like, and see what they tell you.


In reply to this comment by smibbo:
eventually developed the bad characteristics of that which it replaced.

uh, more than 200 years later. Considering context of time, I think your point is a bit errant and very debatable.
what July 4th stands for is independance from the British. That's it. Any other meaning is personal. If you want to romanticize American independance just so you can bemoan its dilution... have fun.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
I never said "Americans" hate "The British".
I suggested the founding fathers hated the way the british ran the colonies and founded a nation of their own, that eventually developed the bad characteristics of that which it replaced.

Americans aren't big on subtlety? So now I have to adjust every post on the internet to take this into account?

Every country has "royalty" and propaganda parades... and yes it is shameful, especially in the context of 4th July and everything the young america was supposed to stand for.

Hope that clears things up for you.


In reply to this comment by smibbo:
1) We Americans do not hate the british. I don't think you know much American history.
2) What is this video supposed to "show"? If you've got something to say, spit it out. Most Americans aren't real big on subtlety.
3) Every country has its "royalty" regardless of their title. People like a bit of pagentry. Is that supposed to be shameful?

no, I said your point that America is in decline is not worth discussing in the context of overal perspective. We both agree. You want to skew the view so that the reason why America is in decline towards an empire is because of its people's attitude. Yet you agree that such movement is inevitable for any country. I don't care to sit around bashing America with someone who takes such great pleasure in pinning it all on the "arrogant americans". Being snide and contemptuous doesn't change or help. I'm an American. What? Because my country has serious problems (and I haven't met an American yet who isn't ready and willing to admit that and discuss it) I'm supposed to sit around beating my breast and hanging in my head in shame? What would that accomplish? Yes, millions are allowing this to happen, but millions also are perfectly aware of it and trying to do something about it. You could discuss how even though decline towards empirical attitudes has been shown to be historically inevitable, there is sstill a large faction of Americans trying to like hell to resist that decline, but you'd rather focus on the people who live in ignorance and fear. Its a matter of perspective and if I thought like you did about my own country, I'd probably give up entirely and become a hermit or another greedy "I got mine, jack" asshole.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
you're saying my point isn't worth discussing, and yet you keep coming back to discuss it.

you say these "empirical trends are to be expected". Well, cool, we agree. Nations turn into empires (if they're lucky) and then try to dominate other countries unfairly, eventually causing their own destruction with their arrogance.

Which is exactly what America is doing.

In the context of millions of americans supporting this self destruction, voting for leaders that continue it, and denying that there is a problem, i think my point is relevant.

Seeing as america was founded with a very definite aim to avoid monarchy and empire, it is especially ironic (in the case of america) that she has formed basically a shared monarchy and an empire. Other countries at least admitted what they were doing (British EMPIRE the clue is in the title). America came along as the bright new hope, with a great constitution, but then over time reverted to the traditional "Leader is the decider and we need to preemptively attack other countries" system.

if you don't think it is relevant, silence might be a more appropriate response.

If you are "defending america" then i wonder... why?

And by the way, in case you are assuming this is some kind of transatlantic rivalry thing, i fucking hate Britain too.

In reply to this comment by smibbo:
Exactly; your point that America "developed" the bad characteristics they wanted to get away from is debatable in the context of time. Being as empires rise and fall and usually in similar ways, the "decline" of America may or may not have anything to do with its attitude. Being as its been over 200 years since its inception, any movement that reflects typical "empirical" trends is to be expected. Paint it "u terbul amerikkans" if it makes you feel all warm and squishy or perhaps you prefer snide and hopeless? Whatever. I was only saying that implying America has pagentry and "royalty" because its somehow tainted with nasty ickyness in its deep-rooted culture is kind of silly. America is over 200 years old, its bound to have similiarity with many older cultures. Big Fucking Deal. Why not discuss cultural problems that are a direct result of the people?

In reply to this comment by MINK:
"debatable" ?
you can go and debate the theory that empires rise and fall, in cycles spanning hundreds of years, with any historian you like, and see what they tell you.


In reply to this comment by smibbo:
eventually developed the bad characteristics of that which it replaced.

uh, more than 200 years later. Considering context of time, I think your point is a bit errant and very debatable.
what July 4th stands for is independance from the British. That's it. Any other meaning is personal. If you want to romanticize American independance just so you can bemoan its dilution... have fun.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
I never said "Americans" hate "The British".
I suggested the founding fathers hated the way the british ran the colonies and founded a nation of their own, that eventually developed the bad characteristics of that which it replaced.

Americans aren't big on subtlety? So now I have to adjust every post on the internet to take this into account?

Every country has "royalty" and propaganda parades... and yes it is shameful, especially in the context of 4th July and everything the young america was supposed to stand for.

Hope that clears things up for you.


In reply to this comment by smibbo:
1) We Americans do not hate the british. I don't think you know much American history.
2) What is this video supposed to "show"? If you've got something to say, spit it out. Most Americans aren't real big on subtlety.
3) Every country has its "royalty" regardless of their title. People like a bit of pagentry. Is that supposed to be shameful?

Exactly; your point that America "developed" the bad characteristics they wanted to get away from is debatable in the context of time. Being as empires rise and fall and usually in similar ways, the "decline" of America may or may not have anything to do with its attitude. Being as its been over 200 years since its inception, any movement that reflects typical "empirical" trends is to be expected. Paint it "u terbul amerikkans" if it makes you feel all warm and squishy or perhaps you prefer snide and hopeless? Whatever. I was only saying that implying America has pagentry and "royalty" because its somehow tainted with nasty ickyness in its deep-rooted culture is kind of silly. America is over 200 years old, its bound to have similiarity with many older cultures. Big Fucking Deal. Why not discuss cultural problems that are a direct result of the people?

In reply to this comment by MINK:
"debatable" ?
you can go and debate the theory that empires rise and fall, in cycles spanning hundreds of years, with any historian you like, and see what they tell you.


In reply to this comment by smibbo:
eventually developed the bad characteristics of that which it replaced.

uh, more than 200 years later. Considering context of time, I think your point is a bit errant and very debatable.
what July 4th stands for is independance from the British. That's it. Any other meaning is personal. If you want to romanticize American independance just so you can bemoan its dilution... have fun.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
I never said "Americans" hate "The British".
I suggested the founding fathers hated the way the british ran the colonies and founded a nation of their own, that eventually developed the bad characteristics of that which it replaced.

Americans aren't big on subtlety? So now I have to adjust every post on the internet to take this into account?

Every country has "royalty" and propaganda parades... and yes it is shameful, especially in the context of 4th July and everything the young america was supposed to stand for.

Hope that clears things up for you.


In reply to this comment by smibbo:
1) We Americans do not hate the british. I don't think you know much American history.
2) What is this video supposed to "show"? If you've got something to say, spit it out. Most Americans aren't real big on subtlety.
3) Every country has its "royalty" regardless of their title. People like a bit of pagentry. Is that supposed to be shameful?

^- you have GOT to be kidding me.

no vote: too goddammned wordy.

*long

no vote: I can't understand a word he's saying.