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mauz15 says...

>> ^Wingoguy:
"Someone living in Oregon is an Oregonian, much more than they are an American, really"
Baseless and false. Very, very few Americans would identify themselves by their state before their country. The only people that may even come close may be Texans. And no, I not counting extreme minorities such as Alaskan secessionists and native Hawaiians.
lies (if I could) for that comment alone
And then the blurb, "freedom of speech is a concept, justice is concrete"
Well that's about as subjective and biased a statement you can make, especially coming from an "empirical" culture. To me, freedom of speech is very well defined, written in law, and relatively non-malleable.
I believe "justice" is a relative concept. Ask someone who's been a victim or a criminal.
Downvote if I could


Good points, but the way I see it, he did not say anything about people from Oregon willingly identifying themselves as Oregonians before saying they are Americans; just that due to the vast size and therefore variety of this country, an American can obviously identify themselves as American, but this idea of what makes one American is so vague, and constantly changing (even without taking into consideration the vast numbers of people from other cultures coming to the US to live permanently) than in reality they are more Oregonian or Floridian or Californian than they are 'American'

At least that is what I am getting from his statements.

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