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Prodigy vs. Enya - Smack Up the Orinoco Flow

bovinity says...

I'm listening to this, and I'm hearing Ain't Seen Nothin Yet by BTO. Kinda like when you hear that Da-Da-Da song by Trio and hear La Bamba in it.

So, I'd be interested in hearing the Bachman Enya Overdrive Ain't Sailed Nothin Yet. They share the notes.

An Iraq veteran on Huckabee's concept of staying for "honor"

bovinity says...

I like reading coolhund's point of view, but I disagree with most of it : ) The civil war has already begun, people will die in large numbers either way, the sevice(wo)men have already died for nothing (unless you count taking down Saddam, which was a double-edged sword) or, if not for nothing, for Americans and Iranians and everyone else to go in and try to make Iraq into whatever they need it to be to fit their goals. It's true people will bitch whatever the US does now. So, we'll have to deal with it. I know there are actually still some people who want the Americans to stay and appreciate what help they've brought, but I don't think they are in the majority any more. As for the rebels, they are not a single group of people and have many differing goals-- some just want power, some want something other than democracy, some just want the Americans out. I seem to recall learning about American colonists killing Whigs and anyone percieved as "Loyalists" back in the American Revolution (I could be wrong; I'm no historian).
Lastly, you don't join the military to "bring freedom and democracy to other countries." While the US military has indeed done that in the past, the purpose of the military is defensive (protect America from enemies foreign and domestic) and offensive (protect friends and allies of America and American interests). Being nice and helping other countries is lofty goal but what America does and when with its military always depends on the civilians in charge-- the government and Commander In Chief (president).
Don't kid yourselves-- while the US did free many countries from tyranny in the past, it wasn't because "that's a good thing." What the US does, both good and bad, is because someone thinks it's in their best interest. Most other countries are the same way.
As a German, if you are grateful be grateful for this: that the Japanese bombed Pearl harbor and got the Americans involved. They may not have otherwise.
All the above is just my opinion.

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