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What is a Libertarian?

ButterflyKisses says...

>> ^bcglorf:

How do you pay for policing and a judicial system to arrest thieves, rapists and murders? How do you pay for an army to stop the dictator next door from walking in and shooting all your policemen and taking over?

The truth is we just don't like aggression, violence and our money being stolen to pay for wars and bad government policy.
Nobody does. But people disagree on what bad government policy is, and even in many cases on the difference between war and national self defense. That's why we need more than a blanket 'do away with income taxes'. We need to additionally agree on the services to cut which that money pays for.


Do you mean the dictator that we had installed after inciting the last coup or just some random dictator?

The thing is National Defense is one thing, while unjustified wars where we've been lied to from black flag operations is another (i.e.: gulf of tonkin incident). How many of our men and women died for that great cause? How much money did it cost us? How many family units were torn apart? How many more of these must we endure and funnel more money into when we could have been beefing up our actual real National Defense?

What is a Libertarian?

ButterflyKisses says...

Geeez, I typed up a huge response only to have videosift refresh the page to lose it all, thanks videosift.
Anyway, here goes one more time...

You have the audacity to be so ignorant as to claim that an entire group of a wide variety of people are all unashamed and selfish - all the while I've met several democrats and republicans whom are unashamed and self-righteous people (not all of course), but I wouldn't be so blatantly ignorant as to group the entire lot as such.
People of all walks of life end up being in the middle politically because they realize the partisan bullshit of a two party system that is both corrupt to the core (politically) and constantly lying to us to get elected and/or remain in office.

Many libertarians share common values with those on the right and left. Not all libertarians believe in a completely open free-market society. Many of us like myself demands a regulated market. There will always be some issues that you may disagree with or feel a little differently about no matter what party you are in.

Civil rights, sound monetary policy, limited international intervention and proper checks and balances in a small federal government sounds like the most logical I've heard of out of all the parties available. I don't agree with the abortion issue because I'm non-religious and I feel a woman should have the right to choose, yet this should be highly regulated and it shouldn't be a federal issue, but one for the states individually to decide.

Now, to answer your questions (again):
1.) "if you are not rich and your road gets a pot hole in it, who fixes it?"
Ans: That would be the STATE taxpayer funded infrastructure dept. (i.e.: Caltrans, DMV)
I have no problem paying state taxes so long as the funds are not abused, used up in bureaucracy, paying extravagant salaries to executive, lost via corruption, etc.) The income tax goes only to pay for interest the national deficit (thanks to fractional-reserve fiat banking and systematic removal of the gold standard).

2.) "if you are not rich and your house catches on fire, who puts it out?"
Ans: That also is the STATE taxpayer funded Fire and Rescue departments.

3.) " if you are not rich and someone tries to kill you, who stops them?"
Ans: That also is a STATE taxpayer funded Law Enforcement division.
Note: The FBI is a great Federal law enforcement agency (when not hampered by bureaucracy, politics and corruption). This being said I feel some federal taxes are fine. One third of my pay is gross taxation though and it's gotten a bit out of hand thanks to bankers and corrupt politicians creating and controlling economic policy.

4.) " if you are not rich and your kid gets very sick, who heals them?"
Ans: Usually myself because I am not rich. If I have to take them in, then my kids get healed from the doctor I have from my medical plan that I and my company pays into. The federal or state govt. has not assisted with me on this!

It seems you need to rethink a few things here. You don't seem to really understand the general Libertarian philosophy. People tend to mock what they don't understand or they have an agenda for their own party of trying to stamp out competition (an ambitious form of monopoly over the lives which they try to influence).


>> ^daxgaz:

the party of of the unashamed selfish. I've debated several libertarians in the past. when you get right down to it they don't care about anyone but themselves. the irony is, the ones i talked to were not in the upper 2% of the wealthiest of the population and would therefore be enslaved by their own cause. If you want to get down to it with one of them, ask them a few of the following questions:
if you are not rich and your road gets a pot hole in it, who fixes it?
if you are not rich and your house catches on fire, who puts it out?
if you are not rich and someone tries to kill you, who stops them?
if you are not rich and your kid gets very sick, who heals them?
the answer to all of these questions from a pure libertarian is "screw you. take care of yourself."
They are the party that most supports corporations controlling the entire society, though they don't often talk about it directly. It's a free country, right? if wal-mart makes enough money to buy run out all the competition and have a monopoly over the lives of every person on earth for their own profit, then good for them.
i really hate the libertarian philosophy.

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The myth of drinking eight glasses of water a day

ButterflyKisses says...

Something to consider:
The amount of fluoride in a pea sized blob of toothpaste, is the same as that in a glass of water.You should drink at least 8 glasses of water daily.
If you ingest just one pea-sized blob of fluoridated toothpaste, you are told on the tube to seek immediate medical help.What is the equivalent of 8 blobs doing to you every day?
Also, Tea can have up to 11ppm in it as well.

This being said, I don't drink much tea but I know of many people that make their tea with water directly from the tap and they drink it daily.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki?title=Talk:Water_fluoridation

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Oliver North: Obama's Core Philosophy is Anti-American

ButterflyKisses says...

This coming from a guy that sold weapons to Iran, facilitated funding for a Nicaraguan paramilitary regime and refuses to bring to light of day something disturbingly ominous about REX-84 according to the senate hearings. I guess that was more "American" huh?

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Ban Textbook for Dismissing Creationism as Biblical Myth?

ButterflyKisses says...

>> ^Quboid:

"Creationism - the biblical myth that the universe was created by the Judeo-Christian God in 7 days."
Well that should be banned - even an Atheist like me knows he created it in 6 days. He rested on the 7th.


Why would God need to rest? Omnipotent perfect supreme beings get tired?!?!

I know, I know... I should be burned alive at the stake for asking that question (making that presumption)... how dare I?

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TYT: RW Christians Chanting For The Rapture?

ButterflyKisses says...

Blind followers of the "chosen ones" mentality because they think this will help to ensure their passage to heaven due to fulfillment of a fabled prophecy is reminiscent of how suicide bombers think they'll go to heaven for their cause. It's nearly the same mentality and is a result of brainwashing from the cult of the church.



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