An apology

...to our community and to Fedquip for starting this whole mess. I had noticed the vsocial post, and the link to his blog, the night before. I wondered if it would cause a shitstorm if I called him out on the self linking because of the way his collective came into being, but then I called out the Indonesia post anyway. Then I googled 'taytv' and saw that fedquip had indeed gotten a blogging job with AOL Video and was known has a Wizard of Buzz...I double checked to see if Fedquip had mentioned this, had given us full disclosure and transparency. None. And then several other posters found that he had used at least two other hosts to self-link. I felt like we'd been used, big time, and I got my feathers ruffled. I should have handled it better, should have taken my concerns that we were becoming a pawn of AOL privately. I should have fussed at Choggie for being such a prick...but I let it roll. So I apologize and hope that Fedquip, Brian and James can understand a little of my reasoning here, why a site like this won't work without full disclosure. I also hope that Fedguip and his collective will continue to be a part of the Sift...with lessons learned. Marianne
wildmanBill says...

I knew all along that the thread about the siftquisition was going to be for nothing. If last night I wasn't stuck in a cheap hotel room with lousy wi-fi (where I couldn't watch videos but only comment, strange...right?) and 20 bucks of 2 dollar pints to the dome, I wouldn't have even got involved.

But since I did I will say that I do not apologize for the content of my comments, only some of the pointless rambling I no doubt did. I stand by my comments and if the violation flood-gates are going to be opened I'll just sling a pony-keg over my shoulder and climb a tree, make friends with the birds, and start donating to audobon society.

raven says...

I too stand by my comments and would like to take this moment mlx to tell you that I do not feel that you handled this at all innapropriately... the issues I've long had with the TAYTV collective in no way compare to the self-linking, advertising, and cross-promotional gain that came to light yesterday (and I thank you for bringing them to light)... I was shocked and appalled at the breadth of this issue and I feel that just sweeping it under the rug because we feel guilty about how it was handled will do no good for the future of this site.

joedirt says...

Hey mlx, don't sweat it. If I would have googled and found the same stuff, I would have reacted the same. It's good intuition, and yes occasionaly I look into "who the hell is this, and why are they posting this video with their logo".

So yeah, it was a good find, and too bad people had to jump to extremes. In some regards I already knew this about TayTV and it was obvious from his welcome email that this was condoned and a home away from home. So I wouldn't feel used or like there was any malfeasance.

And there are other regulars who are online media specialists as well.. so I just kind of take it in stride except for corporate sponsored spammers.

choggie says...

And myself, while you may think what you will, we are no different than anyone else, in that some endear themselves to us while others we recoil from.....I stand by my convictions that fedquip is a tool, and brings the dynamic of the group down-and expect, a small degree of ostracization, derision , not unlike christians who, while tolerating homosexuality in the workplace, maintain a seething, inner vibe to the contrary-
I completely expected him to do what he did, you see, I actually had some conversation with him beyond sound bites and clevertudes, and confirmed my suspicions

3 things that piss me off, as I am sure all here know:

Know it all smuggies.

Atheist rants to put any preacher to shame.

Uni-dimensional, lop-sided posters, who use this place as the lead-in to the Democratic National Conviction


the worst of al being, the combination of the 3
This is not to say i have any opinion here nor there, as to the value and humanity of the people behind the programming.
I treat it like a record album, and skip over the songs that don't groove, and play the ones that do-
BUT-when some asshole in th ebar, hogs the juke-box, it is in my nature to bump it.....and come what fucking may!

Please don't come back fredquick....there are so many here like you, and many more to follow-

Now....let's take a vote on how many folks want me to leave-
i will say no, and will wither and die like the few in the past, you've ganged up on, placed in a box, and giggle and titter about them, but without the horrifiing words like "fucker" "asshole" and.......meaning.

wait a minute...., nevermind, that's bullshit! I don't have any effect here....ego, back in the cell.

joedirt says...

choggie, honestly i do try.. but half the time I have no idea what you are going on about. I do think you've been a little to in your face over this, and I think it comes across as you being personally offended for some odd reason.

I'm not sure why you are claiming to be persecuted, but really I don't think people care about who is banned or want anyone else to leave.

choggie says...

I don't try real hard to impress anyone.....like anyone else,
i respond, react, recant, recoil, recall, and reflect, (way more re's than that) i have nothing against anyone....i call it how i see it, and so do we all.......know what it's like??? then you know me-
and, yer right joe, it's they way i feel, like you do when you read my jibberish, how can anyone hope for someone else to understand their ravings....lotta ravers here

I don't feel persecuted.....I can't stand posers-

and karaidl....nice man teats..that is, if they are yours....

mlx says...

Thanks all, for the support and understanding. I do hope that at least this situation will lead to a better grasp of Sift dynamics, if anything.

And Choggie, you're stealing my thread. STFU.

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